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I am trying to find out some information about John Jordan who was born in 1816 in Milford, Pembroke (this information is from the 1881 census when it is stated he was 65 and a land owner living in Shropshire).
I would be most grateful if anyone could find out any information about his parents or if he had any brothers or sisters.
Many thanks
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I have had a quick look for him but cant find him with Parents in 1841. As he would be 25 then it is unlikely he would be at home.
Here they are in 1871;
1871 Census
Union St,
Holy Cross, Shropshire
RG10/2775/9/11
John Jordan 55, Head, Mar, dividends from Funds and Railway Shares, born Mimilford, Pembroke
Anne E Jordan 45, Wife, Mar, born Cardrith, Pembroke
Anna M Jordan, 16, Daug
Fanny A Jordan, 11, Daug
Alfred D Jordan, 9, Son
Sarah Burgwin, 16, Servant, House Maid
David Bunyon, 23, Servant, Groom
Children all born Pembroke, Pembrokeshire
Looks like Hannah M from 1881 Census is down as Anna M here.
I will see what else I can find.
Trish :)
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Marriage;
John JORDAN, June 1848, Pembroke, 26 1057
On the same page is Anne Elizabeth ORMOND
Buying the Marriage cert will give John and Anns Fathers names and occp.
Christenings, Familysearch Pilot, Extracted;
Frances Amelia JORDAN, 01 January 1860, Nash, Pembroke, Wales
Alfred Ormond JORDAN, 30 May 1861, Nash, Pembroke, Wales#
Anna Maria JORDAN, 26 January 1855, Saint Mary, Pembroke, Wales
Sarah Mary JORDAN, 18 April 1849, Saint Mary, Pembroke, Wales
All with Parents JOHN and ANNE ELIZABETH
#The Ormond was the hint for Annes Surname.
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1841 Census
Main St,
Pembroke, St Mary, Pembrokeshire
HO107/1451/1/St Mary
John JORDAN, 26, Shopman
William JOHN, 23, Shopman
John JAMES, 21, Shopman
Richard PAYNTER, 16, Apprentice
John HUGHES, 16, Apprentice
All born in County
1851 Census, John is married to Anne and living in a large Household still in Main St, St Mary;
HO107/2476/338/13
John Jordan , 36, Head, Mar, Merchant Draper, born Llansstadwell, Pembroke
Ann Eliz Jordan, 27, Wife, Mar, born Carew, Pembroke
SARAH MARY Jordan, 2, Daug, born Pembroke, Pembroke
Ann Eliz Stronach 24
Joseph H Teasdale 22
John Kazzey 19
Henry James 17
Alexr Smith 15
George Edward 14
William Charralt 21
Martha Saunders 23
Mary Oriel 19
All the others work in the Shop.
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1861 Census;
Main St, St Mary
RG9/4155/4/2
John Jordan, 46, Merchant Shop Owner
Ann Elizabeth Jordan, 36, Wife
Frances Amelia Phillips, 1 (mistranscibed image is Jordan), Daug
+ Servants
Sarah is either away or deceased
Good luck with the Marriage Cert :)
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Anna Maria born c 1855 is visiting with the Ormonds in 1861;
1861 Census
Cardeath, Carew, Pembroke, Wales
RG9/4152/21/7
William ORMOND, &1?, Head, Mar, Farmer, born Pembroke, Carew
Sarah Elizth, 70, Wife, Mar, born London
Anna Maria JORDAN, 6, Visitor, born Pembroke
Maria ANDREWS, 3, Visitor, born Liverpool
+ several servants
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Trish,
Thank you so much for all your research on John Jordan.
One question - who do I contact to purchase his marriage certificate and how much does it cost (I'm new to this and don't know where to contact)
Many thanks again
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Hi radnor,
You can purchase it from here for abt 9pounds. It is the only way to be sure you have the right Father for John. When you receive it post details and myself or others will help you more.
There are a few Trees with John on them but no one seems to have got the Cert to confirm his details!
So even though you are new to research at least you are being thorough.
There are so many Johns that without other info it is hard to find his Family.
Best of luck,
Trish :)
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
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The following may assist your research ;
From my transcription of the Parish Registers of Pembroke St Mary 1711 to the 1950’s from the register which covers 1847 to 1895 I note
18 Apr 1849 Sarah May to John & Anne Elizabeth Jordan of Pembroke a Draper by W.M.D. Berrington
26 Jan 1855 Anna Maria to John & Anne Elizabeth Jordan of St Mary a Draper by C. Douglas
09 Dec 1868 Martha to Jacob and Elizabeth Jordan of Lammaston St Michael a labourer by Henry S. Blink
16 Oct 1872 Mary to Jacob and Elizabeth Jordan of Lammaston Hill St Michael a labourer by Henry S. Blink
From the same Parish Registers but from the register which covers Burials for the period 1839 to 1882 I note
Martha Jordan of Dunn’s Row buried 17 July 1864 aged 06 months by D.W. Morris
Sarah Mary Jordan of Pembroke buried 27 May 1856 aged 07 yrs by Charles Douglas.
For future reference
From my transcription of the Parish Registers of Pembroke St Michael 1711 to the 1950’s from the register which covers mrges 1837 to 1908 I note
03 Mar 1897 Isaac Jordan aged 25 a bach and Mason of Williamston the son of Isaac Jordan (dec’d) a labourer married Sarah Johns aged 33 a spinster of East End Square the dau of Daniel Johns a Farmer by licence in front of Rees Davies. Both signed their names in the presence of Dan Johns, Margaret Johns and John Kennea
10 Oct 1854 Jacob Jordan of full age a labourer of Kingston the son of Abraham Jordan a labourer mrd Elizabeth Colliers of full age a spinster and servant of Kinston the dau of William Collins a labourer by banns in front of W.M.D. Berrington. Both made their mark in the presence of James (X) Thomas and Jane (X) Williams.
From my database of Burgess of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 2006 I note
Barret Bowen Jordan Esquire of Herbandstone Neeston made burgess 26 Jan 1795 Admin Bk 4 Page 121 Minute Bk page 150
John Jordan Esquire made burgess 10 Nov 1766 Admin Bk 4 Page 04 Minute Bk page 12
John Jordan Esquire made burgess 08 Jan 1753 Admin Bk 1 Page 51
William Jordan Steward made burgess 09 Dec 1765 Admin Bk 3 Page 125 Minute Bk page 10
I believe that Anne Elizabeth Ormond was baptized at Carew in 1824. My findings would appear to be confirmed by the IGI, which you can consult for full details. I can give you parents mrge if required.
Have you consult the free Jordan wills on the NLoW website, there are a number there that will benefit your research.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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Additional info ;
William Ormond a Farmer of Carew married Esther George at Yerbeston 23 Nov 1813. it is quite lightly that William's brother was
Thomas Ormond a Farmer of Carew married Elizabeth Rogers at Minwear 27 Mar 1813.
It is lightly that William and Thomas where the sons of Maurice & Anne Ormond nee' Llewhellin mrd circa 1787 at Carew in which case from my index of Burgess of Pembroke Borough I see ;
Morris Ormond a Farmer of West Williamston Carew was made burgess 13 Jan 1795 Admin Bk 5 Page 76 Minute Bk page 138
There are other Ormond's that are Farmers in the same area as the villages shown and periods above and they are ar Lawrenny, Martletwy Reynoldton.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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Thank you Trish1120 and Orielbenfro for your research and help.
I have ordered John Jordan and Anne Ormond's marriage certificate so will hopefully be able to find out more about John's family.
Re Anne Elizabeth Ormond - her father was William Ormond who married Esther George on 23-11-1813 in Yerbeston (I believe both were born in Carew, Pembroke) She was one of 9 children.
William Ormond's parents were Maurice Ormand and Ann ? who married in 1746 in Pembroke. (possibly Anne Llewhellin as mentioned in Orielbenfro's post)
Regards and thanks again
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William Ormond's parents were Maurice Ormand and Ann ? who married in 1746 in Pembroke. (possibly Anne Llewhellin as mentioned in Orielbenfro's post)
You are at least 40 years out ~ the mrge of Williams parents the mrge of Maruice Ormond and Ann Llewhellin took place at Carew in 1786.
There are no Ormond Mrges' at Pembroke St Mary 1711 to 1802 or Pembroke St Michael 1711 to 1795. Since I have transcribed all the Parish registers for Bapt, Mrge and Burial 1711 to the 1950's for both you can take that as fact.
The 1st Ormond event in the Parish Registers for Pembs St Michael is the burial of George Kenneth Ormond of Pembroke buried 08 Oct 1844 aged 14 yrs by C. Phillipps.
The 1st Ormond event in the Parish Registers for Pembs St Mary is the baptism of
Thomas Ormond to Thomas and Ann Ormond baptised 31 Dec 1762.
They had a further 3 children baptised at St Mary.
I also note at Pembroke St Mary;
Born 01 May 1785 baptised 10 Jan 1788 Thomas to Maurice and Ann Ormond
Baptised 24 Feb 1789 Martha to Maruice and Anne Ormond
It is lightly that Williams father Maurice that mrd at Carew in 1786 was infact baptised at Pembroke St Mary;
1768/69(rest of the date is lost) Morris to Thomas & Ann Ormond baptised.
The 1st Pembroke Mrge of an Ormond is at Pembroke St Mary when
02 Nov 1817 John Whitta otp a widower mrd Elizabeth Ormond otp a spinster by banns in front of William Lloyd. John signed his name and Elizabeth made her mark in the presence of William Bowen and Dan Shewen Thomas.
F.Y.I. there are no mrge entries for Pembs St Mary or St Michael 1744 to 1748 in the parish registers, however it is possible that the B.T.'s for the period survive.
The Parish Register for Bapt, Mrge, & Burial for 1711 to 1744 is called "The Parish Register of the Three Parishes" and covers Pembs St Mary, Pembs St Michael and Monkton St Nicholas, however very few entries in this register denote in which parish any event took place. I have over the years been able to link certain pages to parish but by no means all.
I have seen it stated in offical catalogues that the register 1711 to 1744 is for Pembs St Mary only, this is most emphatically not true.
Another thing to note is that during the period 1755 to 1770 there are 2 rpt 2 registers in use for Pembs St Mary ~ Mrge only(1 covers 1748 to 1770 and 1 covers 1755 to 1802), I have transcribed both but kept the transcriptions for each in separate files.
For Pembs St Michael during the period 1755 to 1768 there are 2 registers (1 covers 1744 to 1768 and 1 covers 1755 to 1795) in use for Mrge's only in this parish, again I have transcribed both but again kept them in separate files.
Please remember that I was very very lucky and had the full parish registers in my possession for some long period of time during which I was able to study them in great detail as I transcribed them.
I further note from my transcription of the Borough Accounts 1824 to 1835 that
1825 Mr Richard Ormond paid 2s 6d at Michelmas for his rent
1826 Mr (no forename shown) Ormond paid 2s 6d at M'mas for his rent.
Oct 1829 the Borough received of Richard Ormond 3 years rent of a piece of ground in the common due Michmas 1829 the sum of 7s 6d.
I can confirm that Richard Ormond was buried on the 03 May 1850 of the Eastend aged 57 yrs by W.M.D. Berrington.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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William Ormond's parents were Maurice Ormand and Ann ?
I just wonder if Maurice was the son of Morris & Jane Ormond who mrd at Martletwy in 1766 will have a look at the registers later this morning.
Should have mentioned earlier, Mary Oriel mentioned in the 1851 census, is the dau of John & Mary Oriel of the Shipwrights Arms Pembroke Dock(location of Pub at the time is currently unknown)
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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I was up at the Record Office today and looked at the Jordan and Ormond research.
Since Milford is not a parish around the time of your interest I searched the 2 main parishes that cover and used by locals from this area at the time of your interest.
I searched Steyton and Llanstadwell, and surrounding parishes for John Jordans baptism circa 1816, nil found. the earlist baptism I found was Benjamin Jordan in 1834 at Steyton.
However all is not lost I found some interesting Jordan burials that begin in 1816 at Llandstadwell and move then into Steyton upto 1834.
I also searched the Ormonds & Llewhellin's of Carew.
For the above I have related jpeg's of the entries which I think are most relevant to your research.
If you can let me have an email address by PM I can pass on the jpegs for your interest.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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3 emails with jpegs attached sent. Trust this confirms your research.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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Thank you so much for the jpegs. Yes the information ties in nicely with my research (the only thing I had incorrect was the marriage date for Maurice Ormond and Anne (also did not know Anne's surname was Llewhellin).
I cannot connect the Jordan birth's with my John Jordan yet but hopefully when I receive his marriage certificate I will have his fathers name and can go forward from there.
Thanks once again for all your help.
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Oops, have I made an error !! I only sent you burials the 1st Jordan baptism in the area is Benjamin in 1834.
I just wondered if the burials where of John's parents/relations.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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I note your postings about John JORDAN. Did you obtain details of his father from his marriage certificate? I believe him to be a collateral of mine, the son of Richard JORDAN and Margaret SCURLOCK.
Regards
Scurlockgirl
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I did obtain the marriage certificate of John Jordan and Anne Elizabeth Ormond - details are:
Date of Marriage: 20th April 1848 in Carew Parish Church, Pembroke
John Jordan, of full age, Bachelor, Draper, St Mary's Pembroke, Father: Richard Jordan Gentleman
Anne Elizabeth Ormond, of full age, Spinster, Cardeath in Carew, Father: William Ormond Farmer
witnessed by: George William Ormond, Mary Anne Ormond and Elizabeth Ormond.
I believe John Jordan had a brother called Charles and a sister called Eliza.
I have heard the name Scurlock mentioned before in my family tree but have not been able to find a marriage certificate for Richard Jordan so do not know if he was actually married to Margaret Scurlock or if she was John's mother
Radnor1
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Many thanks for your reply and for the details that do indeed say Richard JORDAN was the father of John. Margaret SCURLOCK and Richard JORDAN never married and he was very much older than her.
There is no mention of Richard JORDAN having a wife in his will, but Margaret is mentioned by her maiden name. Do you know what happened to John JORDAN's siblings Eliza and Charles? I haven't been able to trace them but they were alive in 1827 when Richard JORDAN made his will. The will is online at the NLW and was proved in 1828.
Margaret SCURLOCK was the younger sister of my ancestor William SCURLOCK who died in 1815, leaving 3 young sons. When William SCURLOCK married Elizabeth LEWIS by licence in Steynton in 1811, Richard JORDAN was the bondsman. Margaret married a much younger husband (William JOHN) in 1834 in Rosemarket. They only had one daughter Caroline.
Best wishes and hope this helps
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Hi
I have found your posts about John Jordan. I think he is the father of Alfred Jordan, my great grandfather. Did you have any information about Alfred?
Many thanks
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Welcome to Rootschat!
What sort of information are you looking for? The original poster has been on the site since last December.
Alfred Ormond Jordan was baptised 30 May 1861 in Nash, Pembrokeshire son of John, linen draper, and Ann Elizabeth of St Mary's Pembroke.
Marriage 12 March 1895 at St Peter's Pimlico by Special Licence
Alfred Ormond Jordan 33 widower Esquire 7 Bury St, St Georg's Hanover Sq father John Jordan Esquire
Edith Diana Frank 29 spinster Ashbourne Hall Derbyshire & Chelsea father Robert Hayster Frank Esquire
witnesses Harriet E Frank, F M Frank, K? John Frank, Ralph Cheach?
Alfred inherited Sutton Lodge, Lambston, Pembs from his father in 1893
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3065504/3065506/5/
1901 census 107 Lichfield Rd, Stafford RG13/2570 folio 30 pg 1
Alfred O Jordan head mar 39 solicitor living on own means b. Pembs, Lamphey Hall
Edith D wife 35 b. Derbysh, Ashbourne
Mary E G dau 10 b. S Kensington
Harry G O son 2 b. Derbysh, Buxton
Vida G O dau 1 b. Stafford
Florence M Frank sister in law 40 b. Lancs, Liverpool
+ 6 servants
Alfred's first wife, Mary Elizabeth, died aged 27 march qtr 1890 Kensington. Birth of daughter Mary Elizabeth was registered june qtr 1891 and she was baptised 12 May 1891 at St Jude's Kensington
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Hi Hpembs
Alfred Ormond Jordan's sister Frances Amelia Jordan was my great grandmother, her daughter Frances Gwendoline de Cantington Jordan was my grandmother.
I have been researching the Jordan family for some years and have been unable to confirm who John Jordan (Alfred's father) mother was. John's father was Richard Jordan born 1773 in Llanstadwel, Pembrokeshire. It has been suggested that John's mother was Margaret Scurlock, but I have been unable to find their marriage (perhaps they were not married!)
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I would agree with the interpretation of the wording of the will that Richard Jordan & Margaret Scurlock were not married "the money to be divided among my children by her" and as she married the money did go to them.
Eliza was baptised in Rosemarket 26 March 1811, the base child of Margaret Scurlock born in the parish of Burton.
Possible marriage 25 March 1849 in Dale by licence
James Lloyd full age bach shopkeeper Dale father Stephen shopkeeper
Eliza Jordan full age spin father Richard Jordan
witnesses Eliza George & William Rees
1861 census Merlins Hill, Haverfordwest RG9/4163 folio 37 pg 5
Eliza Lloyd head mar 48 dressmaker b. Pembs
Charles son 12 b. Haverfordwest
Hatton son 10 b. Haverfordwest
John visitor 14 b. Pembs
family is at 4 Gloster Tce, Haverfordwest in 1851 HO107/2478 folio 193 pg 24 Eliza's pob noted as Neyland.
birth regs
Charles Jordan Lloyd jun qtr 1849 Haverfordwest mmn Jordan
Hutton Frederick Lloyd march qtr 1851 Haverfordwest mmn Jordan
working from 1851 census, likely 1841 in Haverfordwest
Gloucester Terrace HO107/1450/1 folio 47 pg 14
Eliza Jordan 25 milliner
Elizabeth Stephens 23 fs
Benjamin Morgan 50 independent
Jane Morgan 13
all born in county
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from FreeReg
Charles baptised in Llanstadwell 26 Nov 1820 son of Richard Jordan & Margaret Scurlock but can't spot him after that.
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Thank you for your information Osprey and Radnor1. My mother is researching her father's line from Alfred Jordan (her grandfather). She has photos of Alfred, Edith Jordan and the Franks. The group photo is thought to be 1895. She also has a photo of Mrs John Jordan which may be of interest to you.
I'm new to this but bizarrely having grown up in Sussex, then moved to Wales in 1996, I now live in Llanstadwell and find that's where my family are originally from! I am going to try and find out where everyone lived.
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Radnor1 we also find that we have a picture of Fanny Jordan as a bridesmaid at Alfred's wedding stating that she is Alfred's sister your great grandmother. I'll have copies made if you want them.
Do you know if John Jordan lived in Leamington Spar at some point? All the pictures are taken there
Thanks
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Yes I would love to see the photos. You are the only person related to the Jordan's that I have been in contact with as my grandmother died a month after my father was born and as she was an only child (her brother died as a baby) all contact with that side of the family was lost.
They did live in Leamington Spa. Rev Albert Jordan and Frances Amelia Jordan got married in St Mary's Church Leamington Spa. She was living at Beaconsfield House, Russell Terrace, Leamington, Warwiskshire at the time.
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My link with the JORDANs is through the SCURLOCKS. My mother has a DNA match with descendants of William Lachlan JORDAN who was the son of Richard JORDAN and Margaret SCURLOCK. We are descendants of Margaret SCURLOCK's brother William SCURLOCK born in 1790.
William Lachlan JORDAN died in Tasmania in 1869 but I cannot find a record of his baptism. He was said to have been born around 1800 but if that is the case he could not have been the son of Margaret SCURLOCK as she was only born in 1793. I would have thought that a birth of 1810 or after was more likely. William refers to his father Richard JORDAN in his will but he is not actually named in his father Richard's will. Richard lists 3 children - Eliza, Charles and John. I haven't found any trace of Charles so wondered if Charles might have been William Lachlan JORDAN and his name was changed. Alternatively Charles died young or disappeared overseas.
Sister Eliza JORDAN married James LLOYD and brother John JORDAN married Anne Elizabeth ORMOND as other RootsChatters have already said. Their mother Margaret SCURLOCK married William JOHN and had another daughter Caroline.
I hope this is of interest.
Best wishes
Carol (Scurlockgirl)
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Hi Scurlockgirl
I was contacted from someone in Tasmania some years back saying that William Lachlan Jordan was Richard Jordan's son. I have tried to find out if this is true but have been unable to find any connection. You say William mentions Richard in his will! this I did not know, does he mention any other relatives still in Wales?.
As for him being the son of Margaret that is not possible as he was born in 1800/1. but he could be the son of her mother/sister/aunt as you have a DNA match.
I have also failed to find any information about Richard's son Charles born 1820.
Radnor1
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Either my sister or myself from down here in Tasmania contacted posted here some years ago. We are descended from WillIam Lachlan Jordan, one of four children of Richard Jordan. Have quite a bit of info on --our search for his baptism which we cannot find. Definately not daughter of Margaret.
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I have been trying to find the baptism of William Lachlan JORDAN for some time, with no success. I have searched for a William JORDAN, William LACHLAN, William SCURLOCK, William anything c1800 in Pembrokeshire.
Some people on Ancestry have him as the son of Margaret SCURLOCK and Richard JORDAN but this cannot be possible if he was born around 1800 and Margaret born in 1793. Certainly there is a baptism for Margaret SCURLOCK in Burton, Pembrokeshire on 1st September 1793 to William SCURLOCK and Mary JONES.
My family is descended from William SCURLOCK baptised at Burton on 17th January 1790 in Burton. He was Margaret SCURLOCK's elder brother and married Elizabeth LEWIS in Steyton in 1811. Richard JORDAN was the bondsman. This Richard JORDAN is said to be the father of William Lachlan JORDAN. My mother has a DNA match with descendants of William Lachlan JORDAN, but to our knowledge we have no blood ties with the JORDANs. This means that the connection must be through the SCURLOCK-LEWIS link, the SCURLOCK-JONES link or from our SCURLOCK-VENABLES link or through another link entirely.
William Lachlan JORDAN mentions his father Richard JORDAN in his will but does not mention any siblings. Richard JORDAN does not mention William Lachlan JORDAN in his will and only refers to 3 children - Eliza, John and Charles, in addition to their mother Margaret. What happened to Charles I do not know but Eliza and John married and had children of their own. Why was there no mention of William in Richard's will? Had William already received an inheritance from Richard JORDAN or did Richard JORDAN not acknowledge William as his son at the time?
Further searches on the National Library of Wales recently have not given me any further clues and I am yet to find a marriage for Richard JORDAN. I am also unable to find any birth or marriage information for his sister Dorothy. I am left with still further questions.
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Hi I am grt-grt-grandson of William Lachlan Jordan and have run out of places to look for his baptism. Really interested to see the Scurlock DNA matches with his descendants. William certainly had lots of contact with his welsh relatives and returned there a few times.
You have been in contact with my sister Helen.
Am convinced that William is illegitimate. We know he was living in Inverness Scotland shortly before he came out to Tasmania in 1831.
Always thought his mothers name could be Eliza. William named his first son William Henry Richard Jordan. His father in law was Henry, and his father was Richard. If you assume he used the same premise on his his first daughter - Charlotte Eliza Jordan, then as his mother in law was Charlotte it would make sense that Williams mother was Eliza.
Are there any Eliza Scurlocks that might fit in here?
Another long shot but given we all seem to have exhausted every other possibke source then its all we have.
Only other possible source may be that as William Lachlan Jordan was a Master Tailor, and thus one would assume he was apprenticed at some point, and quite often these docs include a baptism record.
The DNA link is a vital clue here and certainly ties William to the Scurlocks - but how?
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Regarding William Lachlan Jordan naming his daughter after his mother and mother in law, I think it is highly likely.
In the generation before Margaret SCURLOCK there was her father Joseph SCURLOCK who married Mary JONES. I believe this Joseph was one of several brothers but I have not confirmed any sisters he might have had so I don't know if there was an Eliza. I think these SCURLOCKs were probably baptised in Rosemarket but the parish register for these years is no longer extant.
I was wondering if there is any more about William Lachlan JORDAN's life before he arrived in Tasmania. Are there any additional references to his father Richard JORDAN? I cannot find any reference to him on the Scotland's People website, even if he was in Inverness at some point. The middle name Lachlan certainly sounds Scottish in origin.
Interestingly there is another DNA match with my mother on Ancestry who has links with Ottery St Mary in Devon. They also match with a descendant of William Lachlan Jordan but the tree is private. My mother's paternal line is from Devon and I note Louisa BASTONE has ancestors from Ottery St Mary, just as my family do. This is making me think that perhaps the DNA connection is actually on Louisa's side, or maybe there is a DNA match on both sides.
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We have two Scottish references . One of Richard Jordans sisters, Anne, married a David Brown, described as "of Scotland".
In a letter from William to the government here, he describes how he left Inverness to go to London so as to emigrate. Thats it I'm afraid. Agree that the name Lachlan is very Scottish and not a name you would normally associate with Wales. After 35 years searching im just hoping that Ancestry or the likes will digitise some obscure records and there he will be 😊😆
Regards John
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Hi John
Do you have a date or further details of Anne JORDAN's marriage? She is not mentioned in Richard's will, only a sister called Dorothy. Again I haven't found a baptism for Dorothy JORDAN either.
Regards
Carol
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Hi Carol
A lot of my Jordan material I found in various Jordan family files at Haverfordwest Library in 1987. Various trees etc deposited over the years by a number of people, and much without dates etc. As they were from the Jordan and Phillips family I have accepted the info as "reasonably accurate".
Children of David Jordan and Margaret Phillips
1. Margaret married George Edwards
2. Owen buried Llanstadwell 1774
3. Anne married David Brown of Scotland
4. Eleanor buried Llanstadwell 1774
5. Dorothy married 7 Apr 1801, at Llanstadell, to Joseph Clare, Mariner
6. Elizabeth buried Llanstadwell 1772
7. Richard 1774-1828 father of William Lachlan Jordan
8. Rebecca baptised 16 June 1774 at Llanstadwell.
I have been through any available parish records for Llanstadwell, Burton, Llangwm, Steynton and all surrounding parishes - very hit and miss.
John
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I have found the marriage of a Daniel BROWN, mariner to Ann JORDEN in Steyton, Pembrokeshire on 26th January 1790. Could this be the right marriage for a sister of Richard JORDAN? It was witnessed by a Jane JORDAN. Interestingly the marriage previous to this in the Steynton register was witnessed by a Dorothy JORDAN.
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Hi Carol. I am certain the marriage you found for Anne Jorden to Daniel Brown is the right one. Have you seen the entry for Daniel on welshmariners.org.uk.
William Lachlan Jordan only appears on one UK census, 1861, when he was living in Kent. He only states that he was born in Pembrokeshire, Wales, but does not give a place.
He must certainly have had contact with the daughter of Richard and Margaret, Eliza born 1811, as Eliza named one of her children Hatton Lloyd, and the Hatton name comes from The Bastone family, William L. Jordan's wifes family.
I have found Daniel Brown buried 7 Jan 1841 at Steynton. Wife Anne buried 23 December 1828, also at Steynton. Only one child found so far, Margaret Phillips Brown, bapt3 Feb 1791 at Steynton.
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Hi John
Thanks for all the details. Lots for me to follow up on there. I haven't seen the information about Daniel BROWN on the welshmariners.org.uk site, but did note it said he was a mariner on the marriage details.
Off to do some more searching this week.
Regards
Carol