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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kerry => Topic started by: annmck on Wednesday 11 August 10 11:45 BST (UK)
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Hello All,
James's NSW 1907 death cert. gives his birthplace as Co. Kerry, & his parents as James Hennessy & Mary, nee [unknown] :P
My sums & the (emigrant ship) passenger listed age both indicate 1837ish as his birthdate. The same list gives Gale (sic) as his birthplace. I know nothing else of his life pre arrival in Australia, where he farmed in the Hunter River region, at Hexham. He married Jane [nee Nally], daughter of John Nally & Catherine [nee Dogherty] in 1870, and they had 8 chn- Mary Ann, John Michael, Catherine Elizabeth, Margaret Ellen, Patrick James*, Honora Jane, & 2 more (names unknown) daughters* (*died in infancy). Any bells?
I don't know when his parents died, or whether he maintained contact with them or other Kerry connections - any sugg. as to relevant parish or other records to track down gratefully accepted...Galey seems rather vague... :-\
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Gale/Galey does not ring any bells with me as a placename in Co. Kerry... maybe someone else will have an idea.. You can view the townland database for possible alternatives at : www.thecore.com/seanruad
Many parish records for the County (RC and CofI) are available (free) on http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ Be aware that some parishes may not have early records.
Shane
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Galey or Gayly parish according to Lewis Topographical Dictionary 1837 is "in the barony of IRAGHTICONNOR, county of KERRY, and province of MUNSTER; 8½ miles (S. W. by S.) from Tarbert, on the river Gale; containing 2920 inhabitants. It comprises 12,381 staute acres, as applotted under the tithe act, a large portion of which is under pasture: along the river the land is of excellent quality. There are large tracts of bog in the parish, amounting to nearly two-fifths of its entire surface: about one-fifth only is under tillage. The parish is in the diocese of Ardfert and Aghadoe: the rectory is impropriate in A. Stoughton, Esq., and the vicarage forms part of the union of Aghavallin. The tithes, amounting to £203.1.6½. are payable in equal portions to the impropriator and the vicar. In the R. C. divisions it is partly in the district of Lisseltin."
Hope this is of use
annclare
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This site suggests that RC records of Galey civil parish are to be found either in Ballybunion or Ballydonoghue parishes or spread between both.
See Link
http://homepage.eircom.net/~dinglemaps/genuki/KER/Galey/index.html
annclare
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I was searching for a townland... and it's a parish!
here's the location marked of one of the townlands in the civil parish to give an idea of it's location : Carhoonaknock East (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Carhoonaknock+East,+Ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=29.992289,75.673828&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Carhoonaknock+East,+County+Kerry,+Ireland&ll=52.502012,-9.493561&spn=0.089867,0.295601&z=12)
If you search for the Civil parish Galey on the townland database you can see a list of the townlands included in it.
Shane
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Had a quick look at the Kerry RC parish records online at www.irishgenealogy.ie
I didn't find a baptism for a James Hennessy around 1837with parents James and Mary in either Ballybunion or Ballydonohue parishes but there is a James Hennessy in Murhur an adjoining parish Bapt. 6 Dec 1839 parents James Hennessy Mary Sheahan Sponsors Michael Lawless Johanna Enright. This might be a possibility.
Regards
annclare
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In Ryan's Irish Records he states that RC records for the civil parish of Galey would be in partly in Listowel, and part in Lisselton/Ballybunion. Listowel records start in about 1790, but those for Lisselton/Ballybunion only seem to begin in about 1840.
Shane
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My great grandmother was a Henchy from Ballybunion. The family also lived in Lisselton and Listowel. The name Henchy was originally Hennessy. There is a listing for a baptism of James Hennessy in Ballybunion parish in 1837. The father is listed as John Hennessy and the mother as Mary Coughlin. The sponsor was a Juliana Fleming. We have several John Henchys in the family. Relatives did emigrate to Australia.
Maellen
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Shane
You are quite correct as I didn't read the full entry at the G*****i site It states that "In the Roman Catholic church, by 1704 Galey was united with Lisselton, Killehenny and Kilconly to form the parish (eventually named) Ballybunnion and Ballydonohue. In 1832 the portion [of Galey civil parish] south of the Galey River (the townlands of Pollagh, Bedford, Shrone East, Shrone Middle, Shrone West, Derra East, Derra West and Inch Moor) was transferred to the parish of Listowel. In 1960 the Ballydonohue was seperated from Ballybunion to form an independant parish. The churches for the two parishes are located at Ballydonohue and Listowel."
So if James Hennessy lived in the area north of the Galey river it is likely that his baptism record doesn't exist.
So the Murhur entry is possibly a red herring??
annclare
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I'm not sure that the dates in Ryan's for those two parishes are correct as the NLI Parish Index shows different dates.
Listowel Film - Pos.4281
Baptisms from Aug. 1802, Marriages from Jan. 1837
Ballybunion & Ballydonohoe - film Pos.4280
Baptisms from Nov. 1831, Marriages from Feb. 1837
I'm not sure where Murhur is in relation to these locations..... will have a look
Shane
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I'm getting parishes and townland crossed again... Murhur is the townland and Moyvane is the RC Parish, which is next to the parish of Listowel.
Shane
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Shane
Sorry my mistake!! I should have said Murhur in Moyvane parish.
annclare
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Thanks to all "on the case" for the very welcome pointers :) Everything is helpful...
(Any likely related (Kerry) Hennessys with old family photos, I'd be most interested to see if you share our distinctive Hennessy characteristics. A striking breed indeed, with many beauties ;D)
The area James farmed at Hexham (NSW), on fertile river flats with expanses of marsh, must have been very reminiscent of the birthplace he left at age 20.
Many of my Irish ancestors, from various counties, spoke English as a 2nd language. Is it likely that this would have been the case for a Galey native also, do you think?
Ann
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I have photos and and have visited bother Lisselton and Ballybunion and met the families.
Maellen
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Maellen- whoo hoo!
I'm very excited to hear from you about the photos ...I'm about to pm you. Thank you so much :D
Ann
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There was a large family of Hennessys located just outside Ballybunion in a townland called Lahardane. It was in the parish you're interested in. Don't know if any James lived there but there were a lot. My GGGGrandmother was a Hennessy from there and I have her photo.
Sean
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Hello Sean!
......not having heard anything further about the Hennessy's for a few months I'm very pleased to hear from you, and would be delighted to see your 4xgt granny's photo if it's at all possible for you to scan & email it.
I also wonder if Maellen is still about & ok.
I'll pm you with my email address,
Ann
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seanoconnell@windowslive.com
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a GGG GREAT GRAND AUNT OF MINE WAS MARRIED TO ONE OF THOSE HENNESSEYS. THE HENNESSEYS WERE HUGE LANDOWNERS IN LAHARDAN AT THE TURN OF THE 19TH CENTURY. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION ON THEM AS I AM DOING MY FAMILY TREE AT PRESENT AND I LIVE IN BALLYBUNION....THEY OWNED MOST OF LAHARDAN THEN ......CAN U EXCHANGE SOME INFO WITH ME FIRST? where do u live and what hennessey exactly are you descended from
thanks talk soon
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Anna Pope Hennessy born 1806, married James O'Connell in 1837. James had a lot of influence in Lahardane in Griffiths and they had six children as far as I know. Frances 1837, Michael 1839 papal knight, Edward 1840 my GGGrandfather, James 1844 Parish Priest Melbourne and Anna 1846 Sister Brendan Listowel Convent. James Senior died in 1868 and we believe he is buried with his father Edward in Knockanure Graveyard. Anna Senior died in Listowel 28 March 1881 but we have been unable to locate her burial.
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I meant to mention that Edward O'Connell of Lahardane emigrated to New Zealand in 1862. That's where we live.
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I am so excited! The photo is amazing. She looks like Edward Hennessey who live in Lahardan up to about thirty years ago!
I remember him well. Have u more photos??
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No more photos of her but three of her sons Michael, Edward and James. The Sisters at the presentation convent in Listowel may have a picture of her daughter Anna, Sister Brendan. Other than that we have very little on Anna Pope Hennessy. Her death certificate and the baptism records for her children are all that we have discovered so far. If you come across any info please let me know.
Sean
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Sean, If you can email me directly on............ * then I can get back to u with more info on the Kissane/Hennessey/Conell connections.
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Wow what amazing old photos - what treasures.
I have in my line a Julia Hennessy - born circa 1841 to a Michael Hennessy & Honora/Norah Finaghty in Limerick Ireland.
Her parents Michael & Honora married in Ballybunion Kerry 1835 according to the Irish Genealogy website.
Michael was said to be from Dromon in the entry on the website
Julia was my gggranmother.
Julia married a Patrick O'Grady/Grady in 1858 in Ireland & they immigrated to Western Australia in 1862ish if I remember correctly
Regards Troods
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The Hennesseys were the landed gentry of the time and while times were tough in Ireland this family were land agents, made a significant amount of money. Land was cheap and with higher prospects abroad i.e. New Zealand/Australia/ America and most of the Hennesseys who immigrated did hansomely afterwards as they usually had a good start financially. The Gradys were also a landed family in the North Kerry area. Not everyone who left Ireland in 1830's, 40's and 50's were poor and destitute. Some left because they saw opportunity abroad and had the financial backing to do so. Keep in touch with me on email- (*)
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Thanks Mirror for your quick reply - very interesting indeed. I will have to have a look @ the Griffiths Valuation Index a bit more closely I think now.
Troods
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Hi searching James Hennessy who is my grandfather looking for information on his family and wife Jane Nally or so photos .
pinkladyapple
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Hi, PLA!
Welcome to Rootschat :)
James & Jane are my grt gt grandparents...so we are related!
You'll need to make 2 more posts before we can personal message you... in the meantime, what do you know about James already, and what do you want to know?
Cheers,
Ann
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Lawrence Hennessy is my dad John Michael is my grandfather then James my great grandfather i dont have much on his side
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James Hennessy and Jane Nally has 4 girls and 2 boys James father is James Hennessy and mother Mary .would like more information.
Pinkladyaple
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Hi PLA,
Have sent you a personal message.
Cheers