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Title: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: JosiePie on Monday 09 August 10 23:33 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for some info on Jemima Wilson from Elgin who married a James Rice in Aberdeen on 16th April 1846.  I've not managed to find her birth yet, .but I know her father was a William Wilson, plasterer in Elgin. He was dead by the time Jemima married James.

Any help would be gratefully received!

Jo
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 August 10 00:48 BST (UK)
Per 1861 census - Jemima's birthyear was given as 1827
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: JosiePie on Tuesday 10 August 10 01:02 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks very much for that. I've got most of the info on her later life and worked backwards to get a rough birth year of 1827 - just can't find anything about her early life!  Thanks again.

Jo
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 August 10 01:10 BST (UK)
I posted the birthyear as it would be needed for elimination purposes if anybody was able to trace a birth/baptism via parish records

 
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: JosiePie on Tuesday 10 August 10 01:21 BST (UK)
I'm such a beginner at this - it's so addictive though!
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 August 10 01:26 BST (UK)
Tell me about it - and there's no known cure!!
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: n4mv3t on Tuesday 10 August 10 16:15 BST (UK)
JosiePie ... a search of OPR's on SP (for all Parishes) shows only one result ...

dob: 12/07/1827   
name: WILSON MARIA JEMIMA   
parents name: JAMES WILSON/HENRIETTA GILCHRIST   
parish of: LEITH NORTH   
county of: EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
GROS Data: 692/001 0090 0141

 :( :(

btw ... the search parameters I used were ...  Surname: "Wilson"; Use Soundex: Off; Forename: "Jemima*"; Sex: "Female"; Date From: 01 January 1826; Date To: 31 December 1828;
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: JosiePie on Tuesday 10 August 10 18:11 BST (UK)
Thank you for the search  :)

I've just found her death certificate - died 4 November 1886, aged 66 - so a rough birth date of around 1820 then?  It names her "reputed" father as William Wilson, Master Slater and her mother as Lizzie (or maybe Jessie) Chalmers, domestic servant - both deceased. Where it says widow of James Rice (Combmaker), underneath it says illegitimate.

So I imagine I'm not going to find a marriage cert for William and Lizzie then  ;D
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: flst on Tuesday 10 August 10 20:23 BST (UK)
Hi, a couple of questions; How did you know that William Wilson was dead by the time Jemima married in 1846? Who was the informant on the death certificate? The informant most likely didn't know Jemima's parents personally & it's easy to get the details wrong. I note in your first post you said William was a plasterer but on the death certificate he's a master slater.Interestingly Jemima was a servant in Canal Side, Greyfriars, Aberdeen in 1841 census, for a Chalmers family. The head was Alexander Chalmers.Perhaps you could post the portion of the death certificate showing Jemima's mother's name. Someone may be able to decipher it!
flst
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: JosiePie on Wednesday 11 August 10 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi,

In Jemima's marriage certificate, it says she's the daughter of the late William Wilson, a plasterer in Elgin. 

Her son James was the informant on her death certificate.

Really interesting to know that she was living with the Chalmers family in Aberdeen in 1941 - I wonder if Janette was her mother?
Title: Re: Jemima Wilson, Elgin
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 11 August 10 18:50 BST (UK)
In Jemima's marriage certificate, it says she's the daughter of the late William Wilson, a plasterer in Elgin.

If it's 1846, it isn't a marriage certificate as such. Marriage certificates were only introduced in 1855 as part of civil registration.

What you have found is an extract from the register of marriages of the parish of Aberdeen. This is one of the parishes in which the Church of Scotland kept rather better records, including for example the name of the bride's father. As this information was provided by the bride herself, it is reasonable to suppose it to be correct ;-)