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Title: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: rachelwilliams on Saturday 02 April 05 17:09 BST (UK): Hi Im Rachel

I have been kindly sent this information which I have attached. I am struggling to make sense of it, and how I can put this information to use.

From the information my gran told me I KNOW:-

JOHN HENRY BEYNON BORN 1898 - I know that he had 3 brothers (Williams Charles, Tom Beynon, & Sydney Evan Beynon who did die young)

I know that their parents were Henry Beynon whos wife was Margaret Killa

Any help/advice would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Rachx
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: D ap D on Monday 04 April 05 16:21 BST (UK): Hi Rachel,

tried to download your file, but couldn't. must my firewall at work.

Anway, I assume you don't have any more info than you've given us.

You should really start by ordering Henry's birth cert.

Using FreeBMD you could then find the marriage of Henry's parents and order their marriage cert. That would then give you their fathers names. Maybe also their ages.

As they were already married in 1901, you should be able to find them in that census. Working back, you should then be able to find Henry Beynon and Margaret Killa in the 1891 census. I assume by then they were still living at home, hence you will then have the names of their parents (confirmed by the marraige cert) and their siblings. Also the address, which will make it easier to find the parents in the 1881, 71, etc census. And so on it goes. Ordering certificates, looking at census, parish records.

Hope this helps.

D
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: rachelwilliams on Tuesday 05 April 05 12:01 BST (UK): Thanks for your reply, yes I see what you mean. I think I just got so excited to see so many links of the family, it was like a system overload!! lol I jumped the gun.

What I thought I might do is get all the details/references through the internet, then I think its free? If I go to Library? to confirm the information, instead of spending lots of money ordering certificates. Am I right? Is it the library I would be able to see census records?

I noticed williams a few times at the bottom of your message. If you come across Frankie williams who married Ivy Stokes. Also an American link, Frankies uncles/cousins moved there but His parents decided to come home to wales(my grandfather told me he was born on the way back from America on the boat!) dont know how true this is lol then let me know Thx

Rachx
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 05 April 05 12:37 BST (UK): Hiya Rach

Census records are kept at either the library or archive office - you will need to check with your local council. There are a lot of free sites but a lot are also pay per view

Heres a couple of useful links to get you started

http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

None of these sites are complete transcripts but you might be lucky. You can order certificates directly from the GRO the link is http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ you will need their reference which is supplied on FreeBMD

If you need ancesters searching for in any census just ask - someone is always willing to help on this site

Good luck!

Willow x
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: D ap D on Wednesday 06 April 05 08:52 BST (UK): Quote from: rachelwilliams on Tuesday 05 April 05 12:01 BST (UK)
I noticed williams a few times at the bottom of your message. If you come across Frankie williams who married Ivy Stokes. Also an American link, Frankies uncles/cousins moved there but His parents decided to come home to wales(my grandfather told me he was born on the way back from America on the boat!) dont know how true this is lol then let me know Thx

Hi again Rachel,

actually I do have 2 Williams' who left for America. Both are quarrymen from Llanllyfni. One (John) in 1845. He married a Mary Williams. They had 6 children.

The other was William who left at the beginning of the 1900s. His descendants still live in Wisconsin. Sorry, no Franks or Frankies, nor Ivy's. I've got all the names from 1900 onwards, so unless yours were earlier, I don't think we have a connection.

I do have a Rachel Williams in New Zealand though.

All the best,

D
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: rachelwilliams on Wednesday 06 April 05 11:17 BST (UK): Hi D

To be honest Ive been concentrating on my grans side Beynons from Laugharne, Carms.

Williams is my grandfathers side so I havent really started looking them up. The info I have got is just what my grandfather has told me to get me started & he was quite vague!! Who knows perhaps in a FEW YEARS! (when I finish looking up beynons) we will meet again lolol

Rachx
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: Talacharn on Sunday 07 October 18 16:06 BST (UK): Only relating to Laugharne Church (St Martin’s), there are no chapel records
Laugharne Baptisms 1813 – 1875
Surname.FirstName.Father.Mother,DOB.Address.Occupation

Beynon.Ann.Thomas .Sarah.1.3.1819.Water St.Mariner
Beynon.Charles.William.Mary.6.12.1829.Gosport.Carpenter
Beynon.Charles.David.Martha.18.7.1847.Gosport.Labourer
Beynon.Charles Evans.William.Margaret.7.2.1867.Gosport.Sailor
Beynon.David.David.Martha.2.7.1858.Gosport.Labourer
Beynon.David.John .Elizabeth.11.8.1814.Sherry Hill.Carpenter
Beynon.David.David.Martha.10.6.1849.Gosport.Labourer
Beynon.Elizabeth.David.Martha.10.8.1854.Gosport.Carpenter
Beynon.Elizabeth Ellen.William.Margaret.13.6.1869.Ferryside .Sailor
Beynon.George.James.Margaret.16.5.1839.Frog St.Shoemaker
Beynon.Henry.David.Martha.28.12.1851.Gosport.Labourer
Beynon.James.James.Margaret.13.4.1834.Ghrist.Shoemaker
Beynon.James.James.Margaret.1.11.1836.King St.Shoemaker
Beynon.Jane.Thomas.Sarah.26.11.1821.Gosport.Labourer
Beynon.John.James.Margaret.6.4.1828.Stonyway.Shoemaker
Beynon.John.David.Martha.16.11.1845.Gosport.Carpenter
Beynon.Mary.James.Margaret.14.5.1831.Ghrist.Shoemaker
Beynon.Mary.David.Rachel .25.12.1851.Three Lords.Smith
Beynon.Mary Ann.William.Mary.29.6.1834.Gosport.Carpenter
Beynon.Mary Anne.John.Eliza.9.11.1837.Laugharne.Carpenter
Beynon.Samuel. .Marella.8.12.1861.Laugharne.servant
Beynon.William.James.Margaret.20.5.1825.Stonyway.Shoemaker
Beynon.William.William.Mary.12.2.1832.Stonyway.Shoemaker
Beynon.William.David.Martha.9.10.1842.Waterloo.Carpenter
Beynon.William.David.Martha.26.11.1843.Gosport.Carpenter
Beynon.William Walter.John.Elizabeth.7.11.1869.Cliff.Blacksmith
Beynon. .James.Margaret.28.8.1842.Frog St.Shoemaker

Williams.Anne.William.Catherine.14.9.1813.Unknown.Mariner
Williams.Arthur.Fredrick.Jane.9.11.1864.King St.Blacksmith
Williams.Bridget (twin).Thomas.Mary.21.3.1845.Horsepool.Tailor
Williams.Catherine.Fredrick.Jane.1.5.1861.Newbridge.Blacksmith
Williams.Catherine. .Elizabeth.19.12.1866.King St.single Woman
Williams.Charles Ernest. .Sarah.1.11.1866.Clifton St.single Woman
Williams.Charles Fredrick .Fredrick.Jane.7.9.1862.Newbridge.Blacksmith
Williams.David.David WILLIAMS.Mary DAVID.6.1.1816.Clifton St.Servants
Williams.Elizabeth.James.Mary.13.9.1846.Clifton St.Shoemaker
Williams.Elizabeth.Joseph.Margaret.20.5.1849.Laugharne.servant
Williams.Esther.David .Esther.26.9.1821.Gosport.Labourer
Williams.Ethel.Fredrick.Jane.28.4.1867.Newbridge.Smith
Williams.Evan.Evan (dec).Martha.4.3.1836.Laques.Labourer
Williams.Frances.Fredrick.Jane.21.11.1858.Newbridge.Blacksmith
Williams.Frances.James.Mary.7.1.1874.Clifton St.shoemaker
Williams.Frederick Arthur.Frederick.Jane.25.7.1875.Fern Hill Cottage.Blacksmith
Williams.Fredric .John.Elizabeth.14.2.1830.Lake.Blacksmith
Williams.George.William. .14.7.1867.Gosport.Farmer
Williams.James.Richard .Bridget.12.5.1813.Gosport.Smith
Williams.James.John.Elizabeth.26.5.1820.Stonyway.Glover
Williams.James.James (deceased).Mary.1.5.1871.Gosport.Mariner
Williams.James.John.Elizabeth.18.3.1838.Newbridge.Smith
Williams.Jane.James.Mary.3.4.1848.Clifton St.Shoemaker
Williams.John.Thomas .Martha.18.5.1813.Lakes.Labourer
Williams.John. .Sarah.12.7.1863.Horsepool.single Woman
Williams.John. .Martha.5.6.1842.Horsepool.single Woman
Williams.John.David.Mary.14.1.1850.Roches.Labourer
Williams.John. .Ann.11.12.1854.Laques.single Woman
Williams.John Fredrick.James.Mary.7.9.1868.Frog Street.Mariner
Williams.Julia Ann. .Sarah.29.6.1861.Horsepool.single Woman
Williams.Mary.James WILLIAMS.Margaret PROTHERO.24.6.1830.King St & Clifton St.Shoemaker & singlewoman
Williams.Mary Ellen.James.Mary.27.1.1850.Clifton St.Shoemaker
Williams.Nora.Fredrick.Jane.4.10.1872.King St.Blacksmith
Williams.Oliver David.Fredrick.Jane.8.8.1869.Victoria St.Blacksmith
Williams.Richard.John.Elizabeth.10.8.1834.Newbridge.Blacksmith
Williams.Richard Edburn.Thomas .Martha.25.7.1816.Strand.Bank Man
Williams.Roberta Camilla Louisa Mends.Walter Nangrove.Maria Augusta.21.8.1851.St Clears .Captn
Williams.Rosanna.William .Ann.6.6.1815.King St.Shoemaker
Williams.Samuel Evans.James.Mary.7.6.1867.Gosport.Sailor
Williams.Sarah.James.Margaret.20.11.1831.Stonyway.Footman
Williams.Thomas (twin).Thomas.Mary.21.3.1845.Horsepool.Tailor
Williams.Thomas George.Thomas WILLIAMS.Margaret SANDBROTH.5.11.1839.Laugharne.Gent, Spinster
Williams.Walter Murry Edward.Walter Nangrove.Maria Augusta.21.8.1851.St Clears.Captn
Title: Re: Help with understanding info I have pls
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 07 October 18 17:38 BST (UK): Rachel hasn't been online since 26 July 05 and her email address is no longer working,it would seem as though she will not be notified that we have posted here.

However you info may well be of use to others researching the same surnames.

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