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Have just found a newspaper entry for the death of Mary Collingridge (she hung herself!!) July 1819 in Bloxham. Would appreciate it if anyone could do a lookup on the parish register to see if there is any further information other than name - this lady may be my 4th GGM.
Am also looking for death of her husband William - no idea of date but think Bloxham
Regards
Ray
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Ray -
Have just found a newspaper entry for the death of Mary Collingridge (she hung herself!!) July 1819 in Bloxham. Would appreciate it if anyone could do a lookup on the parish register to see if there is any further information other than name - this lady may be my 4th GGM.
Oxfordshire FHS www.ofhs.org.uk has transcribed the Bloxham registers - they're on CD WIT03.
Courtesy of OFHS, here's a burial for you, though in June - maybe reported in July:
28 Jun 1819
Mary COLINGRIDGE of Bloxham, age 74
Am also looking for death of her husband William - no idea of date but think Bloxham
There's a burial of a William COLLINGRIDGE (no age given) in 19 March 1793.
Wendy
Oxfordshire FHS HelpDesk www.ofhs.org.uk
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Hi Wendy
Thanks for the very quick response (love this rootschat!!). Not sure that this is my Mary, I have a marriage and a first child in 1778 (with a possibility for 3 other children!!) so 74 years in 1819 is a bit of a push, but perhaps not impossible?
I will have to get the Bloxham registers to pursue this further - thanks for you interest and your time
Best wishes
Ray
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Ray
Bloxham registers - Mary buried on 28/6/1819 age 74 yrs.
William Collingridge married Mary Satchell 29/1/1778 both o.t.p
Wit. John Harbord & John Randle. Banns
Chirldren
John 22/3/1778 - d.10/6/1802 age 25
Mary 22/12/1782
Elizabeth 19/8/1787
William 17/10/1790
Found a buriel for a Thomas Collingridge 17/8/1802 but no bapt.
Possibly William snr buriel 19/3/1793.
Couldn't find bapt. for William and Mary in Bloxham back to 1746.
Lottee
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Hi Lottee
Thanks for the info, particularly on the witnessses - both names Harbord & Randle seems to ring little bells for me - need to check that out. Have been talking to other family researchers and there seems to be agreement that this is our Mary. On the newspaper clipping reporting the suicide by hanging, poor Mary is described as a 'lunatic' and as one researcher said it's good that we have identified the lunatic in the family!!!
We have the children you named but Thomas is a new name - needs checking. William 1790 is our line.
Thanks for you interest
Best wishes
Ray
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A pleasure.
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Hello
Just discovered your message about my gt gt gt gt grandmother, Mary Collingridge, nee Satchell who hung herself in 1819. I have had the death details for ages but was unaware of how she died and the other details - very sad to discover this. I have been unable to get back any further on Mary Satchell. You may already know this but Mary and William's son also called William married Sarah nee Ward in Wroxton on 22 September 1812. They were removed from the Parish of Wroxton on 7 January 1815 along with their daughter, Mary, to nearby Wigginton. I have a copy of the Removal Order. William was born in Bloxham 1789 and died from a diseased liver in Wigginton on 11 December 1837. His wife remarried a Samuel Cleaver on 20 March 1848 and died in Wigginton on 22 April 1869 of paralysis. My direct line after this is John William Collingridge born 1829 Wigginton and his second wife, Eliza Bishop. After this it is their son Walter born Warwick 1868 and died in Canada. He married a Caroline Florence Smith in St Marys Warwick on 11 April 1898. They had numerous children, one of whom was my grandmother, Christiana Lillian Collingridge. I would be interested to know if you are descended from Walter and Caroline Smith's line in particular as I have discovered very recently some extremely interesting information on Caroline's grandfather, Robert Farmer Bower.
Regards, Helen
Regar
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Hi Helen
Good to hear from you. My line came from Mary Collingridge 1813 Wroxton. She married a William Wheeler and they had 5 children. Eliza Wheeler born 1836 Swerford Oxford, married William Denham in 1861 and thats where my line came from.
A 2nd cousin of mine Len Denham- who I met a few years back - has a great Denham website and he would also be very pleased to hear from you. I don't, and as far as I am aware, Len also dos'nt have anything on your line.
I seem to be having trouble posting links so I will PM you with the links.
Regards
Ray
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Hello
That was a quick response. I notice Len Denham has a query about a Solomon Waite. A few years back I was contacted by a great granddaughter of Solomon Waite. Solomon was one of Martha Collingridge's sons. Martha married John Waite on 11 November 1841 in Wigginton. There was Edwin born 16 July 1842, Annie born 10 March 1845, Solomon 27 October 1847 and William 28 January 1850 all in South Newington. Solomon emigrated to the United States in 1871. His mother eventually left England sometime after the 1881 census in which she features, his father having died in 1878 in England. Martha died 12 February 1884 at Solomon's home. In May of that year Solomon moved his family to Arizona where he settled and became a stone and brick mason. Many descendants still live in Arizona today.
Hope the information is of help although you may already be aware.
All the best
Helen
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Hi Helen
Have just had a quick look at Len's website (have not done as much as Len) and he does have Soloman as a son of Martha but he only has the DoB. He also has Edwin but not Annie or William. He does have Martha emigrating between 1881 & 1884 (source being a Stacey Sirila Johnson) and then dying in USA but not sure if he knew that she was with Soloman.
Good to know about the other living descendants. I have in the last few days cleared up some great details on a descendant from my mohers side in New York in 1870.
Nice to have this new information, thanks
I see that you are new to Rootschat - it really is a great forum, I have had so much success from it.
Regards
Ray
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Just found this fascinating exchange. Hope it's not too late to add to it.
William Collingridge Snr was my 4th great grandfather. My line goes through Elizabeth, his daughter, who married Thomas Clark Hicks in Godlington on 11 Apr 1809. I have learnt a great deal from these pages; please would you explain what 'being removed' from a parish entailed? Why were they removed? Is this something to do with destitute people being sent back to their original parishes to get relief?
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Hi Jonosue
Yes as you say remove from parish means that if a resident was receiving parish assistance from a parish where they were not originally from they would be removed back to their original parish. I have been in touch with a cousin of mine who undertook all the original work on the family tree and he says in this case William & Sarah with daughter Mary were removed from the parish to Wiggington on 7 Jan 1815 (Removal Order). Wiggington subsequently attempted to estabish that the settlement was not legal but apparently without success as William died and was buried in Wiggington almost twenty years later.
With regard to Elizabeth Collingridge marriage. We have Elizabeth marrying a Zachariah Print in Bloxham on the 16 Oct 1806 (from Oxfordshire parish records). They had 3 children, Elizabeth, John and Wiiliam. We have Elizabeth marrying a William Priest in Bloxham (2 June 1825) after Zacariah had died in Bloxham in 1818.
The Bloxham marriage looks a more likely marriage. Godington is 18 miles from Bloxham.
Also the Hicks/Collingridge marriage states that Thomas Hicks was from the parish of Bicester and Elizabeth Collingridge was "of this parish" which was Godington.
Sorry to break this news, but it looks like your Elizabeth is from a different Collingridge family - or we may be wrong!!!
Ray
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Thank you, Ray, for replying so promptly. I did think I might be too late adding to a post as old as this one was originally!
It does seem that I have the wrong Elizabeth Collingridge, I agree. 18 miles was a long way in those days. Do your records cover Bicester and Goddington? If so, would you be kind enough to see if you can find the right one? I am pretty sure I am right about subsequent generations, I have found enough evidence to convince me that Thomas Clarke and Elizabeth (but which one?) are my forbears.
There is a history of Catholicism in my family - Thomas and Elizabeth's son (also Thomas) was definitely catholic. I wonder, if you have access to them, it is worth looking for Elizabeth's baptism in the catholic records?
Thanks again for your help.
Sue
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Hi Sue
I don't have the birth records for Oxfordshire before 1813, and I can't find anything online either. There is an online tree which has your Elizabeth born 1787 in Brampton Oxfordshire (no parents) but I don't know how correct that is.
You say that Thomas was catholic but I do believe that he married a Mary Gibb in 1849 (he is still with his parents on 1851 census with his wife) and that marriage took place in the parish church at Brampton on the 28 May 1849.
Ray
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Hi Sue
Have just found a reference to a William Collingridge in Godington in 1820. It is a newspaper report asking that anyone having a claim on the estate of a William Eaton, recently deceased farmer of Cottisford to send their demands to William Collingridge of Goddington or Samuel Churchill Fields of Deddington. It also asks for anyone owing William Eaton any monies to pay it to Mr Collingridge in Goddington or to the office of Churchill & Fields at Deddington.
This came from Jackson Oxford Journal 20 May 1820. Unfortunately I cannot copy the piece but I have covered all the major points.
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Let us try to help with identifying the Elizabeth Collingridge that Jonosue seeks.
Thomas Clark Hicks married Elizabeth Collingridge of Godington on 11 April 1809 by licence at Godington, witnesses were Elizabeth White and Henry Collingridge.
There were eight other Collingridge marriages in Godington, the earliest was between 1763 and 1765, the uncertainty because the incumbent forgot to enter the year, and the last was the Hicks/Collingridge marriage. Only four of the eight Collingridge marriages involved a male Collingridge so we have four contenders for parents/grandparents of Elizabeth who married in 1809 so was born I surmise between 1775 and 1790. Because they were Roman Catholics I can find no baptisms. The most likely ancestors appear to be Henry & Elizabeth (nee White) married in Codington on 11 October 1766. Elizabeth left a long rambling will proven in 1806 which can be accessed on Ancestry, from which I learned of her son James and granddaughter Elizabeth. I could not find a convincing marriage for James in Oxfordshire and it seems that he probably died in 1803.
Without baptismal records I fear I am stuck.
Reverting to Thomas Clark Hicks, he was baptised in Bicester on 29 december 1782, the son of William & Mary (nee Clark). They had married in Chesterton in November 1779. Thomas & Elizabeth's son, Thomas, seems to have been baptised on 17 January 1810 in Bicester.
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Many thanks to all of you for doing so much research on my behalf. :) I am sorry not to have replied sooner - bit of a health issue side-tracked me for a bit, but I am still in the land of the living!
Yes, Thomas Hicks, son of Thomas Clark and Elizabeth Collingridge, was born in Gravesend in 1810. He married Mary Golding in 1833, in Westminster. Thomas Clark and Elizabeth, having married in Goddington, then seem to have settled back in Bicester. So how they came to meet and marry at a distance is a mystery. He was a tailor, as was his son Thomas, (who in fact was a military tailor, and features in a different place for many of the subsequent censuses). I have found Thomas Clark in the Universal British Directory for Bicester, where he is listed as a a principal inhabitant,"Hicks, Thomas, Taylor and Parish Clerk". Would there be any parish archives from this period that would provide any more information about him?