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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: tadpolenz on Sunday 01 August 10 08:12 BST (UK)
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Hi I'm looking for George and Ellen Wenham in Victoria
I can't find when they arrived there.Ellen was a Day before she married George. I cant find marriage in England IF that where they came from.
The Info that I have found is that they Left Victoria in Oct 1856 on the ship Mimmie Dike for Wellingtom New Zealand.
Infant 1
Ellen 22
George 24
The infant her name is Ellen .So she would have been born abt 1855-56. If she was born at sea on the way to Victoria would here birth be recorded there or where they came from also could some one have a look for there marriage
thank you
Cheers Tad :)
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Hi Tad,
There is no marriage in Victoria for George and Ellen , or a recorded birth for the infant.
I have looked on the Victorian Marine BDM Register and there is no marriage or birth recorded there either.
I have also checked NSW just in case.
Regards
Alison
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Hi Alison Thanks for looking for me . It is hard when you have very little to go on. The family have been looking for a long time. The infant may have been called Helen Agnes.
Once again thank you
Cheers Tad ;)
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Tried to have a look at the passenger list that you have quoted but it's not held at the National Library - only at PROV in Melbourne. :(
I had a bit of a hunt in some other records (Immigration, BMDs etc) but with the same result as Alison - nothing!
Judith
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Hi Judith Thank you for that. I have tried looking in inward ships record from 1830's to when they left the ones that I have been able to find. Just in case they came out with mum and dad. Ellen was a Day before she was a Wenham.Or did they come out as convects
Thanks for your help
Cheers Tad :)
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Hi there,
1841 July NSW Govt Gazette
Convicts granted Tickets of leave
John Skinner, aka Wenham, Prince George ;D ;D I think Prince George was actually a ship, ;)
NSW State Records Office Indexes
Ticket of leave (TL 41/1406 of 1841) to John Skinner aka Wenham arrived 1837 ex Prince George shows he was a labourer, born at Craulbrook, Tried at Kent Quarter Sessions. He was in the Yass District of NSW 1841
Certificate of Freedom (43/1483) to John Skinner was issued 7 Sep 1843
There's also 5 Nov 1838, George Wenham ex the ship Maitland, aged 34, a labourer with a wife aged 30 and sadly the loss at only 4 yrs of their child, George who died when this ship was in quarantine
NSW State Records : http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/ Suggest you use the keyword search option to start ;)
Also, lots of good resources on the Aussie Board and its sub-boards :D http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html
Edit to add
Victoria was part of NSW until early 1850's so that's why I was looking at NSW :D and thinking if your George was a son of a George ;)
Cheers, JM
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There is an Ellen DAY arriving into NSW (I think) on an assisted passage as follows:
Ship: Bolton, arrived 23 June 1853, left Plymouth 22 Feb and the Cape 15 May
Ellen DAY, 22, General House Servant,
Native place: Knockerallagh?, Co Tipperary, Ireland
Parents: Sylvester and Catherine, living near Kemplemore??
Roman Catholic,
Can read,
No relatives in the colony,
Paid 1 pound
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchhits.aspx?table=Assisted%20Immigrants&id=9&frm=1&query=Surname:day;Firstname:ellen
An account of the ship here:
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/669077?searchTerm=bolton+ship
I can't see that this ship called at Melbourne and the age of Ellen does not match exactly. However it's the only one I can see.
No sign of George at all. :(
Judith
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Hi there,
Re the George Wenham and family on the Maitland to NSW Nov 1838 ... could be mistranscribed surname Winham but image shows as Wenham :D there's two families with that surname on that voyage, both were from Kent ...
George, 34 and wife Mary 31, with two children, William 9 and George 4. Mr George could read and write and was a Farm Servant.
Henry, 35 and wife Mary 36, with five children, James 15, Mary 12, Harriet 8, William 5, George 2. Mr Henry could read and write and was a Farm Servant.
Attached is snip showing native place, starts with "B" and apparently it is in Kent ???
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:)
Also, there's an odd submitted tree with an obvious error but that may be a typo ::) Also as a general rule, submitted trees need to be independently confirmed ;)
It has a marriage for George Wenham to Ellen Day with date of 6 April 1898 at Featherstone Reg Office. That year must be typo error for it has Ellen Day's dates as 1836-1872. George's dates 1832-1901, and one son, Henry, born 1868 in Greytown NZ ;)
Sadly, that submitted tree does not list any parents for George 1832-1901 nor Ellen 1836-1872.
Cheers, JM
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A couple of good finds there majm.
I think the place name may be Benenden?
Judith
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Hi Lady's :D Thank you so much for your help :) :)
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Have had family and grandchildren here. I have been able to pop in and have a look and then some one would wont some thing then it time to get off computer again. ??? ??? Today I have been able to have a good read of the hard work that you have done for me. ;D
JM there have been a lot of odd things that I have found.
My Gt Gt grandmother she is the one born in Australia to George and Ellen on marriage record she is Helen Agnes Wenham on her death record Ellen. Someone else has Ellen arriving in Victoria on 7th Sept 1853 . I found that one Ellen was the age 7 and arrived in sept 1853
Today I have found on this site there is someone that is doing Henry Wenham so off to have a look at what they have got. This one has been hard but thank to you lady's I'm getting there
Cheers Tad