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Hi all, this is my first posting so I'm hoping that it's in the right forum. My wife's relative came to the UK sometime in the early to mid 1800's originally from, we think, Tuscany in Italy, I can find him on the 1851,1871 & 1881 censuses but not the 1861or earlier than the 1851 censuses, probably not unusual. I have tried checking passenger lists but can find nothing. His name was Pietro Pieraccini and his DOB was 1807, any direction to go would be appreciated.
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Welcome to RootsChat Spannerman :)
In 1861, the family are at RG9/1014 100 26 (Pierachini)
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Hi Spannerman and welcome (and hi Tati :))
Have you got his marriage(s)?
Somebody online has his first marriage as being to Margaret BRADY, 29 Nov 1829, St Nicholas Liverpool.
IGI at www.familysearch.org has that marriage as follows (extracted record):
MARGARET BREADY
PETER PENSENE
Marriage: 19 NOV 1829 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Morning Anna :D
Here's another marriage
12 April 1868 St Andrew Holborn
Pietro Pierachini, full age, widower, Modeller, High Holborn, father Giacomo Pierachini, Farmer
Mary Ann Matthews, full age, widow, High Holborn, father Thomas Wilshire, Labourer
Witnesses Giovanni Antonio Francesco and Samuel Major Hicks
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Margaret P seems to have been around until 1874 (death Jun qtr 1874 Camberwell aged 70) notwithstanding Pietro having "moved on" to Mary Ann by the time he went through a ceremony of marriage with her in 1868.
Pietro is also credited on online trees with the paternity of Joseph (Bastock) Pieraccini (registered Mar qtr 1850 Birmingham simply as Joseph Pieraccini) - mother being, apparently, a Hannah or Ann Bastock.
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Matches the 1851 census where Ann Bostock is lodging with Pietro. Don't you think she's also likely to be the one shown as his wife in 1861, Anna? :)
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Matches the 1851 census where Ann Bostock is lodging with Pietro. Don't you think she's also likely to be the one shown as his wife in 1861, Anna? :)
Agreed. I'm being a bit slow on the uptake this morning ;)
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I think this is likely to be the family in 1841:
1841 census: HO107/562/2/35/62
Cowhall St, Liverpool
Peter PEARAGENEY 40 Tailor Foreign Parts
Peter do 9
Margaret do 30
Mary do 6
Do do [female] 6 months*
all born in county (Lancashire) except Peter snr
*The child enumerated as Do do I think is likely to be Josephine Pieraccini, b Liverpool Dec qtr 1840, died Liverpool Mar qtr 1842.
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Oh well done!! 8)
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Hi new at this. Surfing the net just now and really like to speak to Honey-roma 88 as she was writing about my mum and dad - Tony and Bobby Bradshaw. My apologies for gatecrashing your topic but I didn't know where to begin or how to make contact with her...thanks
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Tati:- thanks for yours and all replies, how do I input RG9/1014 100 26 (Pierachini) into the 1861 census page to retieve the information? Paul
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Tati:- thanks for yours and all replies, how do I input RG9/1014 100 26 (Pierachini) into the 1861 census page to retieve the information? Paul
You can use the number reference to find the page - if using Ancestry make sure you're in "Old Search" rather than "New Search" and you should find towards the bottom of the search box a place to enter the figures. Other census providers also support the same reference.
On this occasion you could alternatively just search for Pierachini in the 1861 census and the correct household should be the first result (they're in Luton, Beds).
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Hi new at this. Surfing the net just now and really like to speak to Honey-roma 88 as she was writing about my mum and dad - Tony and Bobby Bradshaw. My apologies for gatecrashing your topic but I didn't know where to begin or how to make contact with her...thanks
Hi - all you need to do is post a reply (as you have done here) on the thread you are referring to. Even if it is an old thread the participants should receive email notification that there is a new post (unless they have disabled notifications).
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avm228 :- I am on Ancestry UK but can't seem to find a 'search' dialogue box to but the reference number into , perhaps I'm looking in the wrong area, can you help? Paul
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Hello,
I am a decendant of the Pieraccini family you are enquiring about.
It is true that the name was under several different spellings, making information hard.
What is your connection to the Pieraccini line and could we help each other with information and photo's?
Giacomo Pierachini Father from Italy.
Pietro Pierachini born 1807 Tuscany Italy.
Married to:
Margaret BRADY (1804-1874)
Children
Peter John PIERACCINI (1831-1903)
Mary Ann PIERACCINI (1834-1901)
Josephine PIERACCINI (1840-1842)
Married to:
Ann aka Hannah BASTOCK (1829-)
Joesph Bastock PIERACCINI (1850-1905) Ann's son, adopted by Pietro.
James R PIERACCINI (1853-1922)
Ameila PIERACCINI (1859-)
Married to
Mary Ann WILSHIRE (1827-1895)
I also have all the information from his children, little hard to print all here.
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Ness 66. You have a private message.
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In case others are trying to find the Pieraccini line. In most of the records, the surname is constantly misspelt.
Some of the ways it has been spelt on records I have found are:
Pierachini
Pieraccini
Pearagency
Pensene
Pieruccini
Pieraccina
Piraccini
Pieracini
Beraeline
I am sure there are others. This is just to help people when trying to work out the Pieraccini records.
Goodluck!
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As there seems to be a Liverpool connection might I suggest you have a look at
http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/ and then click search and then type in Little Italy....there are many many people researching the Italian families that settled in Liverpool on this site...They have a Guestbook and people leave their queries on this thread....good luck....allan ;)
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Thank you, will check it out. :D