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Title: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: jewelz on Wednesday 28 July 10 08:11 BST (UK)
Looking for the Marriage or Death of Alice Symonds ROWE d/o John ROWE & Joanna Symons. Christened 22 Feb 1824 St Agnes, Truro, Corwall.  Immigated to South Australia 1849.
Any information at all much appreciated
Cheers
Julie
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: Essie on Wednesday 28 July 10 10:48 BST (UK)
Hi Julie

This appears to be the only Alice ROWE of the same/similar age.

Groom: Thos COURTENAY aged 36 and widowed.
Bride: Alice ROWE aged 29 and single.
Fathers not recorded
Date: 05.07.1852 Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
Ade /Book/Page: 5/107

Alice COURTNEY aged 63 and married, of Adelaide. Husband Thomas COURTNEY.
d: 29.04.1887 in hospital  Adelaide
Ade/book163/page111

Essie
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: SASHAR on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:06 BST (UK)


Hi Julie,
From the biographical index of SA, not always accurate but a good reference point:-

COURTENAY Thomas b.c.1816 England, died 1878 SA
Arrived:  26.8.1848 on the ship CONSTANCE
Tailor, residing Adelaide
Married l/2:  Mary b.c.1815 England died 29.8.1848 Alberton, SA.   Arrived SA with husband.
Child by 1848
Married 2/2:  Alice Symons ROWE parents John & Joanna Rowe
Baptism:  22.2.1874 Cornwall, England
Death:  1.5.1887SA  buried West Terrace Cemetery
Arrived:  12.1.1849 from England on the ship SAMUEL BODDINGTON

Regards,
Sashar
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: jewelz on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:14 BST (UK)
Great work, many thanks to you both. Yes Joanna did did arrive on the Samuel Boddington.
Any chance of finding any children born to this couple?
Cheers
Julie
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: SASHAR on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:16 BST (UK)
Births with various spellings of COURTENAY:-

COURTNEY Thomas
17.1.1854  Nth Adelaide
Father: Thomas Courtney
Mother:  Alice Rowe
Bk 4  Pg 282

COURTNAY James
6.2.1856 Adelaide
Father: Thomas Courtnay
Mother:  Alice Rowe
Bk 5   Pg 276

COURTNEY John
14.1.1859 Adelaide
Father: Thomas Courtney
Mother:  Alice Rowe
Symbol:  V
Bk 15  Pg 12

COURTENAY John
24.7.1867 Adelaide
Father: Thomas Courtenay
Mother:  Alice Rowe
Book 55   Pg22

Regards,
Sashar
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: SASHAR on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:20 BST (UK)
Oops, missed 1 birth   ::)

COURTNEY James
30.7.1861 Adelaide
Father:  Thomas Courtney
Mother:  Alice ROW
Bk 20  Pg 157

I will look for the deaths of some of these children.

Regards,
Sashar
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: SASHAR on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:30 BST (UK)
Here are deaths of the little boys:-

COURTENAY  John
7.4.1859  Adelaide
Age:  11weeks
Relative:  Thomas Courtenay (father)
Bk  9   Pg 7

COURTENAY James
26.3.1860 Adelaide
Age:  4
Relative:  Thomas Courtenay (father)
Bk  255   Pg 7

Regards,
Sashar



Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: SASHAR on Wednesday 28 July 10 11:59 BST (UK)
I must be doing something wrong because I can't find the death of Thomas COURTENAY/COURTNEY before 1915 in SA.  The Bisa mentions he died 1878 in SA.

I also can't find any marriages for the surviving sons in SA with the father as Thomas.
They may have remained single and died after 1915 - I don't have the death records 1916-1972 for SA or any interstate records.

Hope someone else can double check for Julie.

Regards,
Sashar

Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: Essie on Wednesday 28 July 10 13:45 BST (UK)
Hi

The dates given in records appear to be at odds ???

BISA has Thomas born c1816 which corresponds with being aged 36 in 1852 and the death date of 1878 means he was about 62 when he died.

This death record has Thomas aged 63 but  . . . . he died after Alice?
Thomas COURTENAY aged 63 of Adelaide
d: 20.08.1891 in hospital in Adelaide
No relative recorded
Ade / book 195 / page 446

Essie
Title: *Completed* South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: jewelz on Thursday 29 July 10 06:29 BST (UK)
Yes I see what you mean about the dates Essie  ??? will work with that for the time being. Four of Alice's brothers (William, Abel, Frances, and Samuel)came to New Zealand to perhaps that is where the Courtenay boys ended up.

Many thanks to you both for your help, very much appreciated. I have a few more queries on this family but will do them in a separate post :)
cheers
Julie
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: jewelz on Saturday 12 November 16 03:15 GMT (UK)
just an update for anyone looking for Thomas Courtenay / Courtney's death found it on Trove as follows:

COURTNEY.-On the 20th August, at the Adelaide Hospital, after a painful illness, Thomas,
husband of the late Alice Courtney, aged 73 years. A colonist of 42 years.

Family Notices Adelaide Observer (SA : 1843 - 1904) Saturday 22 August 1891 p 24 Family Notices
Title: Re: South Australia - Alice Symons ROWE
Post by: cando on Saturday 12 November 16 06:16 GMT (UK)
Death registration with a different age at death ::)  Already on the thread by Essie :)

COURTENAY Thomas  63 years  Status not recorded  Relative not recorded
20 Aug 1891
Residence Adelaide  Death Place Adelaide   Ade H 195/446
Symbol H indicates he died in hospital or place of care.

This paper has his age at 63 years and a colonist of 32 years.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48239405
The South Australian Register  Fri 21 Aug 1891
DEATHS.
COURTNEY  On the 20th August, at the Adelaide Hospital, after a painful illness, Thomas, husband of the late Alice Courtney, aged 63 years. A colonist of 32 years

Cando