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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: broonyboy on Tuesday 27 July 10 21:59 BST (UK)
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Hi All
I may be clutching at straws here, but I am looking for a bit of a break.
I know that my wife's great grandma is Sarah Foster, born in Newcastle. She married George Edward Stamper in 1912.
At this point I have no confirmed birth date etc. for Sarah and I do not have her parents names. I think she would have been born about 1888 and I know she has a sister named Phillis (BMD only has one Phillis Foster, about this time, in Newcastle Born Q1 1889)
Would someone mind (if this is possible) having a look in the 1901 census to see if there are many entries with Sarah and Phillis Foster as daughters living in Newcastle, who will be 2-3 years old.
I realise this is clutching at straws, but I feel that any information will build on the first hand knowledge I may be able to get out of relatives when chatting to them.
Hope you can help.
Neale
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1901
RG13 4766/50/39
48 Seaham Street Westgate Northumberland
George Foster 42 bricklayer b Newcastle on Tyne
Annie 41 wife b ditto
Thomas 15 son flower seller b ditto
Phillis 12 dau b ditto
Sarah 9 dau b ditto
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Hi,
If Phyllis was born in 1888/9 ish, she would be 12/13 in 1901.
This is the closest match I can find.
RG13/4766/50/39
42, Seaham Street, Westgate, Durham
George Foster, 42 Bricklayer, Newcastle
Annie, 41
Thomas, 15
Phyllis, 12
Sarah, 9
All born Newcastle.
I hope this is useful.
Jen :)
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Hello again Jen
They are at same address just before Sarahs marriage so maybe the marriage certificate will confirm
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1891 loads more siblings
George Foster 32 bricklayer
Ann 31 wife
Jane V 13 dau b Newcastle
John T 10 son b ditto
George 7 son b ditto
Thomas 5 son b ditto
Philis 2 dau b ditto
8 Oaks Place Westgate
RG12 4191/54/48
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Isabel - we must stop meeting like this! ;D
Hopefully this is the right family but as you say, the certificate is the best way of being sure .
Jen :)
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Hello Jen
must put you on my christmas card list.
Did you check them out in 1911
1881
RG11 5048/67/10
18 Oystershell Lane,Westgate(what a lovely address)
George Foster 22 bricklayer
Ann 21 wife b ditto
Jane V 3 dau b ditto
John F 9mths b ditto
transcribed as Forster
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thank you so much Isobel and Jen.
This family definitely looks like the one (correct area and links to the green market - Flower seller), I'm sure that a slight jog of the memory will bring loads flooding back.
I really appreciate your help, and respect how thorough and quick you are.
Thanks again
Neale
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This looks like the marriage but there are 2 Anns
Mar qu 1877 Newcastle T 10b 100
Ann Douglass(who was not born Newcastle)but is in Westgate 1871
Ann Lumsdon who was born Newcastle and is also living Westgate 1871
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They appear to be back in Newcastle in 1911, with George, Ann, Phyllis and Sarah in the household.
Sorry, we're not allowed to give full details for 1911.
Jen :)
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wow, you are so clever.
All addresses seem to be in the area that my father in law lived (unfortunately, every street has now been demolished).
Right in the centre of Newcastle, and even though Oystershell lane sounds quaint, believe me I don't think it would have been. Newcastle Breweries was actually built over Oystershell Lane, and now a good bit of this is demolished and being redeveloped as the "science city".
It's lovely when, even though not confirmed, it seems to fall into place with the flower seller theme, as the family is definitely linked with the flower/vegetable market (again demolished) in Newcastle.
I've just found some old environmental health photos of Seaham Street
http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/page229/
Lovely eh. Mind looking at the rest of the photos makes Newcastle out to be a lovely place!!
Thanks again.
Neale
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I know that the centre of Newcastle and the the river side is now very modern and fashionable but the last time I was looking across at it, from the Sage, I was thinking just how much history has been lost in the development. The same apples to all of our cities and whilst it is true to say that some of the poorer areas were truly dreadful to live in, I wish that one or two streets could have had a preservation order slapped on them for social history purposes. We have some great living museums around the country at places like Styal Mill, Beamish etc but who is really going to be able to explain inner city Victorian England to future generations.
Great photographs though. I wish I could find some like that of my various areas of interest.
Jen
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Very true Jen
I can't speak for the area which you are interested in, but I love the site below for the Newcastle Area, I think it all depends on who is contributing to the threads.
I have been looking for photos of a particular street in Newcastle and their is a gentleman on this site who is a mine of information.
Have a look and see how active your area is.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29
Hope it is of interest.
Neale
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Thanks Neale,
Interesting link. My main interest is in the Teesside area which has several pages but which mostly seem to be of modern photography. I shall have to sign up and see if anyone can point me in the direction of the historical stuff.
Jen :)
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I am married to third generation George Edward Stamper who's grandma was called Sarah Stamper and lived at Bulmer Street in Newcastle upon Tyne she had a sister called Phylis so does this help you ? Ruby s
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Hi Ruby
Nice to hear from you. I believe your husband is the cousin of my father-in-law William Clemmy, who lived in Bulmer Street as well.
Neale
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Was his mother called Eva as she was my husbands auntie and sister to his father there was also another brother called Robert Rubys
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Hi Ruby
Yes that's Bills Mam Phylis Evelyn Stamper. I can let you have a snippet of that generation that I have in the tree if you want to private message me.
Neale
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Actually I have known my husband since I was 11 and I knew Eva very well as we used to go out with them a lot with my husbands parents also we spent many a weekend in working mens clubs of the day with Billy Clemmy and sometimes his wife May along with another cousin called Joan Pam and her husband John