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Title: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Saturday 24 July 10 14:45 BST (UK)

My uncle died 1922 aged seven months. On his death cert when and where died the address given is 17 Charlestown Rd Blackley. Above the door is a sign, Oxford House. See Google street view.
I don't think he lived there.
Does anyone know what this building was used for in 1922.

Regards

JD
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 July 10 14:56 BST (UK)
Hello,

you could look it up in 1911- it is listed as Oxford House there so you may get an idea from the residents.
Booth Hall hospital was on Charlestown Road too. It wasn't a children's hospital then but there possibly was a connection.
http://www.cmft.nhs.uk/childrens-hospitals/our-history.aspx
Was the death registered by a family member?

heywood
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Saturday 24 July 10 15:04 BST (UK)

Heywood

The informant was his father, his address is Cheltenham St Miles Platting.

JD
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: LS2 on Sunday 29 May 11 21:43 BST (UK)
My husband's Gt Grandfather James Hyland and his family lived in Oxford House in 1922, it was a private house and they lived there between 1918 and late 1924. I noticed one of your surname interests is Dunn, James Hyland's daughter Florence Elizabeth married Herbert Dunn in 1906, is there a connection?
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Monday 30 May 11 13:36 BST (UK)
LS2

My uncle Bernard Dunn died May 1922 at 175 Charlestown Road Blackley, his father (my grandfather) Francis Dunn was born circa 1900.

At the moment I cannot relate them to your Herbert Dunn. Strange that he should die at this address.

Coincidence ?

regards

J.D.
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: MancsMan. on Monday 30 May 11 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi J.D.

According to the 1927 Manchester & Salford Directory a

Thomas R Henshaw lived at Oxford House, Charlestown rd

again the same person in the 1929 version

Nothing to indicate it was anything than just a house s LS2 stated

Just running an OCR program on a 1909 directory (800+ pages will take some time) so will check when finished

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: willie bat on Monday 30 May 11 15:07 BST (UK)
A lot of the houses on Charlestown road all had house names, this was a posh area at one time, The actual construction of Chalrestown road started at around 1904/5 and wasn't completed till around 1911/12. The odd numbers ran from the bottom of the road on the same side as Booth hall hospital

http://images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=43833

http://images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=49151

1915  http://i53.tinypic.com/mtwmrt.jpg

Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: LS2 on Monday 30 May 11 15:19 BST (UK)
Hi JD
It also seems strange to me that Bernard Dunn should have died at Oxford House, do you know the name of Francis Dunn's father? I can't find Francis related to any of the Dunns in my husband's family.
 
LS2
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Monday 30 May 11 19:41 BST (UK)
Bernard Dunn's death certificate, where it states when and where died, the entry is: 29th May 1922 17 Charlestown Road Blackley. Cause of death gastro enteritis. The informant was his father Francis Dunn who at the time was residing at 175 Cheltenham Street Miles Platting.

On Google maps Oxford House is on the right of No.15, Oxford House looks the same age as No 15.

LS2
I'm the oldest surviving Dunn, the only information I have on grandfather Francis Dunn his is marriage certificate. he married my gran Nellie Hesshion 1900 they were both 19yrs at the time. In the box which asks for his fathers name and surname it has Francis Dunn deceased. this will be my great grandfather.

My gran remarried 1930 and on her 2nd marriage certificate, in the box which asks for her fathers name the entry is Francis Dunn deceased.(should not have been entered in this box) I take this to be my grandfather who would have been 29/30yrs old at the time.
My grandmother was illegitimate, on her first marriage certificate her fathers name is Hesshion 

Regards

J.D.
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: LS2 on Monday 30 May 11 20:03 BST (UK)
Hi J D

I've spent a while looking for Francis Dunn c1900 and have come up with an army pension record for Frank Dunn born 5th September 1900 in Collyhurst. Frank Dunn apparently joined the Corps of Signals in 1920, stating he was single, however the next of kin is "step father George Taylor address 175 Cheltenham St Collyhurst "  Another coincidence! Could this be Francis?
Frank's address on leaving the corps is 23 Crissy St Queens St Manchester.

Sorry if you have already found and discounted this gentleman but when I saw the address of Bernard's father it seemed worth mentioning.

LS2
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Monday 30 May 11 21:01 BST (UK)
LS2

Ive also spent a while looking for Francis Dunn. His marriage certificate shows his residence at the time of his marriage to my grandmother as 175 Cheltenham Street

My grandmothers marriage certificates show her residence at the time of both her marriages as 23 Crissey Street Rochdale Road. Married October 1919 Francis Dunn and November 1930 John (Jack) Tilley.
John Tilley was also residing at 23 Crissey Street in 1930.

So it looks like your Frank Dunn could be my Francis Dunn.

At last I should now be able to go forward, or back with Frank/Francis.

regards

J.D.
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: MancsMan. on Tuesday 31 May 11 13:29 BST (UK)
Burial registers states

Bernard Dunn (7mths) was living at 23 Crissey St.

This makes the youngster only a visitor to 17 Charlestown road

 
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Tuesday 31 May 11 20:54 BST (UK)
MancsMan

The burial record for Bernard Dunn shows a number of people in the same grave.

Is this a paupers grave. Is it possible that there could be a inscription/stone for this grave.

J.d.
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: MancsMan. on Wednesday 01 June 11 12:44 BST (UK)
MancsMan

The burial record for Bernard Dunn shows a number of people in the same grave.

Is this a paupers grave. Is it possible that there could be a inscription/stone for this grave.

J.d.

Hi J.D.

Yes it is a paupers grave, they only inscription would be name, date of death and possible age.

I cannot get to PP just yet to check for you, but if you can go I have a numbered plot plan for that section, PM your email addy if you would like a copy.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Oxford House
Post by: J.D. on Wednesday 01 June 11 19:59 BST (UK)

MancsMan

What is a email addy ?


regards

J.D.