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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: hwilson90 on Friday 23 July 10 21:45 BST (UK)
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I have recently visited the grave of a family member whose headstone says he died in an accident at the 'Globe Works' in Lincoln in 1903. I have had a look online but have found little info about the company and nothing about the accident. Is 'Robey & Co' (on Canwick Road) the correct company? Does anyone have any further knowledge about this?
Also, where would be the best place to search for information about the accident - the Lincoln archives or a library with old newspapers etc? (I live in the area)
Thank you! :)
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Hi hwilson90 and welcome to RootsChat :)
Yes, the Globe Works was Robey's.
If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html and search Lincoln, then select the 1887 map (on the right), and zoom in ... you'll see Globe Works is marked.
Something about Robey's here - see 1854 to confirm "Globe Works". http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/Robey_and_Co
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Thanks for the info/links, they look great!
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Robey's works had the word ROBEY in large white bricks embedded in the southeastern exterior wall next to the railway line. After this line was closed in the early 1960s, the company acquired part of the track bed and made another entrance through the wall. Subsequently the sign in the wall then read R BEY. We concluded it had been acquired by an Arab sheikh!
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Halfway down this page, there is a photo of the back of the works next to the railway http://www.leytransport.i12.com/arch.htm
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That brings back memories, pity there isn't a picture of Robey's works after it was bought by the Arab!The destruction of bridges in conjunction with the closures, is a very sore point to this day, and gives credence to the widely held belief that the closures were not for to rationalisation purposes but to permanently benefit road transport, and hence revenues from petrol tax. For those who weren't around then, the destruction of bridges occurred nationwide, and not just in some areas.
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What was the Chaplin Arms (where my grandad used to go for his daily game of crib) used to stand in the shadow of one of the railway bridges. Now it just stands forlorn :(
As well as the Robeys workshop which can be seen, there was another of which only part of the outer wall remains. http://tinyurl.com/2vcevf9
Move along Canwick Road to the north and more Robey buildings come into view.
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In my tree there are a couple of deaths in the foundries of Lincoln, always worth asking at the library for a search of the newspapers as the articles can be uite revealing.
The death certs (i get mine from Lincoln) also have an amazing amount of detail on them too.
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After months of research I have tonight found our great grand father. He was a boarder at the Chaplin Arms, Canwick rd. His trade was a fitter, I am putting 2 + 2 and guessing he was at the Globe Works. 1891.
I found a photo of the public house, I dont know how old the pic is? Do you have any info' that will keep me in the right direction. Do You know if there would there be a list of employee's from the globe works at that time?
What was the Chaplin Arms (where my grandad used to go for his daily game of crib) used to stand in the shadow of one of the railway bridges. Now it just stands forlorn :(
As well as the Robeys workshop which can be seen, there was another of which only part of the outer wall remains. http://tinyurl.com/2vcevf9
Move along Canwick Road to the north and more Robey buildings come into view.
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Do You know if there would there be a list of employee's from the globe works at that time?
I can only suggest that you contact Lincs Archives to enquire if they have anything relating to Robey's Works.
Sometime (1960s perhaps) Robey's was taken over by International Combustion (of Derby?)
It seems you may be in luck (or not) - see www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/Download/803 about p97-98
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From my experience company records (usually archived at the National Archives) rarely include personnel records, BUT if there is a fatal accident then local newspapers are usually a good source and often have the human interest element too.
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There is also another pub on that road The Travellers Rest opposite the Chaplin Arms . All my family on my maternal side lived in that area in the late 1800s mid 1900s, Canwick Road, Great Northern Terrace and I was born in Clifton Grove (off Great Northern Terrace)
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all this nostalgia, i am feeling old. I remember Robey's used to be the globe works but was the production the same as Robey's? I have no idea. I also remember there was a row of houses between pelham bridge and Robey's and a transport cafe on the opposite side . sue
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the row of houses between Pelham Bridge and Robeys was Great Northern Terrace which led round to a number of side streets inc Clifton Grove where I was born. I have a fab CD of the building of Pelham Bridge and there's lots of footage of the area pre the building of the bridge when Canwick Road went all the way up to Melville Street. Lots of my family lived in the area
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That sounds very interesting Penny. My sister in law lived in great northern terrace . I find it sad losing all the local history and I suppose we will be saying "I remember the grand hotel" in the future . lol
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If you want me to send you the details of the CD let me know. I won't be here to pick up any messages now til Tuesday
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This is the DVD that Penny was talking about http://blowbyblow.co.uk/store/product.php?id_product=12
I have it myself.
:)
Interesting about the Travellers Rest ... it appears in the 1957 directory as simply
119 Canwick Road, Mrs BROTHWELL, Beer retailer, so it may not have had a full licence. :-\
Penny ... do you remember Michael Roy and his shops? ;)
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Thankyou very much I would enjoy watching that . Is it available in the city?
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Is it available in the city?
Sorry, no idea. It's been out a few years, so possibly hard to find now. :-\
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Alienlady The Echo offices on Brayford have some of the DVDs, worth calling in if you are passing.
Otherwise order on-line from Blow by Blows website as per the link, mine came within a couple of days when i ordered all the set.
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Thankyou both very much I am looking forward to this. sue
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Hi all
my husband bought the DVD for me last Christmas via Amazon but I believe you can also order it directly from byegonefilms.org.uk
I've also just come across this on google www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyrQtLezYR4 I remember this area so well moved to Montague St in 1960 and lived there till c67.
@ GeoffE no I don't think I remember Michael Roy and his shops. What were they and where?
Penny
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@ GeoffE no I don't think I remember Michael Roy and his shops. What were they and where?
Michael Roy was a bit of a character in his camel hair coat and kid gloves (or were they white?). Was his hair dyed blond? I'm not sure. :)
He had a second-hand shop on the corner of GN Terrace and Canwick Road.
1957 directory has
10 Canwick Rd, ROY Michl. entertainer
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121 Ripon Street, ROY (Michl) Entertainments Agency (Michl ROY, propr)
Probably no truth in the rumour that he wrote to the queen, complaining that Pelham Bridge spoilt the view from his shop. ::)
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Hi Geoff
my dad mum and I left CliftonGrove when I was 6mths old when my dad was promoted and transferred to Yorks. He was a draughtsman / belt designer for Dawsons so I don't remember Mr Roy. Sounds a colourful character. Mum and me, my sister and brother came back to Lincoln in 1956 when my parent separated but we went to live with my grandparents at the Joiners Arms Victoria St. We used to visit my Great Aunt a lot (Cockram family who lived 73 Canwick Road for many years) but I don't recall the second hand shop. My Great Grandparents and Great Great Grandparents lived / died at 26 Canwick Road. Was there a sort of café at the end of Canwick Road and St Andrews Street with green check curtains? As you get older you do tend to think you remember things but maybe you're misremembering.
Penny
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I was born at 26 Scorer St and lived there till I was 4.5, then we moved to Hartsholme. My grandparents still lived in Scorer St and I used to go there for my dinner from 1958-61 and it was in those days that I saw M ROY's shop. To return briefly to the topic, I see that what used to be Robey's canteen on the Canwick Rd/Ripon St corner is now Globe House http://tinyurl.com/ps9tghc
I don't remember your cafe :( An auntie of my dad's married a MASON and they had a fruit shop at 64 Ripon St.
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Hi Penny I remember a transport cafe being there. sue
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@ Geoff E re the fruit shop owned by Masons. It wasn't the masons that later had the fruit shop in lower end of High Street (Gowts Bridge area), Corporation Street nr Clasketgate and Lamb Gardens on St Giles? There was Jeffrey Mason Snr and his son Jeffrey who in turn had a son called Tim? My Mum worked for them for MANY years and was the Manageress at the Lamb Gardens shop. Still in touch with Tim occasionally.
Penny
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When was it that your Mum was there Penny?
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@AlienLady
She worked at the Corporation Street shop in the early 70s with Ida Lamb who was Tim Masons Grandmother. Mum and Ida knew each other previously. Don't know where from poss Marks and Spencer as Mum worked there from when she left school until I was born in 1949 or maybe through the pub my grandparents ran in Victoria Street?? Mum went on to Manage the shop in Lamb Gardens also in the mid 70s and 80's. Not sure of the actual date she left there or why possibly the shop closed because I know she loved working for the Masons. I had left Lincoln by then. My husband and I rented the flat above the shop in Lamb Gardens when we married in 73 until 76 when we moved to a house after our first baby was born
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@ Geoff E re the fruit shop owned by Masons. ...
I know nothing about the MASONs. The one attched to my lot was an Arthur. How (or if) he was related to the wholesale MASONs (who also had stalls in the market). I don't know. :-\
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Penny I must have known your Mum. I do remember a lady being at the lamb gdns shop and then a man took over from her. I left Lincoln in 1974 so possibly saw you too
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Mum was still there is 75 def as my daughter was born then and mum and I used to see each other daily as we were in the flat upstairs. Think the man must have been Tim Mason the son of the family who used to be in the shop sometimes. Small world.
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Yes it is Penny , I thought that when I was in usa and bumped into one of my school teachers! What a laugh that was.
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1967 Started out as an apprentice Centre Lathe Turner at Robey of Lincoln.great memories
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If you want to keep in touch with your Roots if you're on Facebook join Your probably from Lincoln if..... made contact with lots of old friends. There's also some fab old films of Lincoln on the British Film Institute website. Here's the link to one on Robeys 1900 http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-employees-at-robeys-works-lincoln-1900-1900/