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Title: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Thursday 22 July 10 08:35 BST (UK)
Hi,   

I'm looking for some information on WILLIAM GORTON & MARTHA TELLING.

William Gorton born  c.1769 in  Shrivenham, Berkshire.
Died  c.1821?

Martha Telling born  c.1774  Shrivenham, Berkshire.
Died  c.1821.

Looking for the date of their marriage and also their parents if possible.

I already  have their children:
John,  George,  William,  Elizabeth,  Joseph,  Sophia  and Charlotte.

Many Thanks Aileen
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: nainmaddie on Thursday 22 July 10 11:02 BST (UK)
Hi Tangles

The only details I have found are from www.familysearch.org
William.  bap. 1 FEb 1774 at Uffington.Berks.   Father - William  submitted record

William Gorton  18 July 1770  Uffington Berks. Parents Mathew and Elizabeth -extracted record

Extracted records are from Parish records whereas the submitted records are from individuals and therefore need to be checked.

Uffington is very near to Shrivenham

I am sorry that I was unable to access further records.  Berkshire Record office may be able to help you with further enquiries

Nainmaddie
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Thursday 22 July 10 23:31 BST (UK)
Hi nainmaddie,

Thank you for the information, seems it could be a possible lead to follow up.

 I will take a look at the entry on the familysearch website...........
Many thanks Aileen :D
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Galium on Friday 23 July 10 09:20 BST (UK)
IGI has a marriage of William GORTON and Martha TILLIN at Uffington 10 October 1799.
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Friday 23 July 10 23:18 BST (UK)

Hi there Galium,
Thank you,  it has to be their marriage.
Their first child John Gorton was born 1801, the names fit and the dates too, much appreciated...........Many thanks Aileen :D
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Friday 30 July 10 14:33 BST (UK)
Hi Aileen

Do you still need anything from the Uffington records as I could go to the museum in Uffington and look at the registers - they have baptisms, marriages and deaths (can't remember off hand what years they cover but I think the births go back into 1600's).

Regards
Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Saturday 31 July 10 01:13 BST (UK)

Hi Cello,
Sorry that I haven't replied sooner been bust and just got on the computer now.
 That would be great if you can, I am looking for information on William Gorton's parents Matthew Gorton and Elizabeth Tuwey/Toohey, would like to find their births, marriage ect if possible.
Also anything on Martha Tilling/Telling's parents John Tilling/telling and Sarah Weaving.
Greatly appreciate your offer.
Many Thanks Aileen............... :D
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Saturday 31 July 10 20:44 BST (UK)
Hi Aileen

The baptism on 1 Feb 1774 at Uffington, Berks does not exist in the parish registers.

The Uffington, Berks baptism registers have:
Jul 18 1770 William GORTON, son of Matthew and Elizabeth of Woolstone.
Feb 16 1800 John GORTON, aged 3 days, son of William and Martha (TILLEN), Woolstone

The Uffington, Berks marriage registers have:
Oct 10 1799 William GORTON, b., and Martha TILLEN, sp., b.o.t.p.
Witnesses: Thomas Johnson and William Noake (who was a regular witness)

The village of Woolstone is next to Uffington at the base of The White Horse.

http://www.museum.uffington.net/

Regards
Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Saturday 31 July 10 20:59 BST (UK)
Hi Aileen

The Uffington Registers include Woolstone entries until 1849.

There is no marriage entry in the Uffington registers for Matthew Gorton and Elizabeth Tuwey/Toohey.

There are no baptism, marriage or burial entries for Tuwey / Toohey or Turvey (except the inclusion of the maiden name Turvey on the baptism below for 30 May 1784.

Baptisms
8 Jun 1755 Thomas GORTON, son Thomas and Hannah, [from the Bishops Transcripts]
20 Apr 1757 Mary GORTON, dau Thomas and Hannah, [from the Bishops Transcripts]

28 Feb 1768 John GORDON son Matthew and Elizabeth, Woolston
19 Apr 1772 Martha GORTON dau of Matthew and Elizabeth, Woolstone
3 Apr 1774 Susannah GORTON dau of Matthew and Elizabeth, Woolstone
29 Sep 1776 Matthew GORTON son of Matthew and Elizabeth, Woolstone
3 Jan 1779 Edward GORTON son of Matthew and Elizabeth, Woolstone
3 Jun 1781 Elizabeth GORTEN dau of Matthew and Elizabeth [no village given]
30 May 1784 Thomas GORTON, aged 7 wks, son of Matthew, lab., and Elizabeth (TURVEY), Woolstone

18 Sep 1785 Martha COLLIER, dau Stephen and Rachel (GORTON), Woolstone
8 Mar 1794 John GORTON, aged 1 wk, illegitimate son of Mary, Woolstone

17 Feb 1805 Elizabeth GORTON, aged 3 wks, dau of Matthew and Sophia, Woolstone
15 Nov 1807 Susanna GORTON, aged 33 dys, dau Matthew and Sophia, Woolstone
6 Sep 1812 Matthew GORTON, son Mathew and Sophia [no village given]

Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Saturday 31 July 10 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi Aileen

All the Gorton baptisms are included above.

There are 15 Gorton marriages including those above.

There are 22 Gorton/Gordon burials.

If you would like any of these please let me know or send me a PM.

However, in the Churchyard Survey we did between 2002 and 2009 we did not find any Gorton headstones.

The only date relevant marriage for TILLING/TILLIN/TELLING is:

27 Apr 1766 Richard CRIPPS, Woolston and Mary TILLING, Ashbury, Berks

Kind regards and I hope some of this may be useful.
Cello :)

Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Saturday 31 July 10 21:14 BST (UK)

The Uffington Registers include Woolstone entries until 1849.


Aileen

I forgot to say that the absence of headstones at Uffington doesn't preclude the fact that up until 1849 the entries in the Uffington registers would include burials at Woolstone Churchyard.

If you would like a photo of either Woolstone or Uffington Church please PM me with your email address and I will email to you.

Regards
Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Saturday 31 July 10 21:25 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=430225.0

Aileen

I just found this topic in Rootschat and have copied one of the entries below.  This seems too good to be coincidental

Dear John

will go back to familysearch in a while to chase up the details that I earlier referred to, but want to show you an amazing coincidence .......

I have just been browsing in the Wantage marriage records for the early 1700s looking for a completely unrelated family, and have found the following!

1757 17th October, marriage of John Jilling, single man of Wantage, and Sarah Weaving, of Goosey, Stanford, witnesses Francis Fortescue and John Noke.

 KN

I note that there is a cluster of Fortescue baptisms & burials in Wantage from the 1780s onwards but no Francis.  You may well know about these already.


Does this date match your request for details on Martha Tillings parents John Tilling and Sarah Weaving?

Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Sunday 01 August 10 09:00 BST (UK)
Hi there Cello,
This is more than just a coincidence, I think this could be the family of Martha as their first child Elizabeth was born around 1760 that I know of and John came from Wantage.
Thank you so much for that it's a really great find.
 Cheers......... Aileen :D
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: cello on Sunday 01 August 10 15:53 BST (UK)
Hi Aileen

Great,  You may now need to go to Wantage registers for more info. No doubt another Rootschatter will have access to the Wantage registers, but if not I can go to Wantage library where they have some of the BMD registers.

Was any of the other information in my previous posts useful?

Cello
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tangles on Monday 02 August 10 01:30 BST (UK)

Hi Cello,
 All the information  you have found has been very useful.  You have been very  helpful indeed  and I really appreciate it............As I don't have full time access to a computer it just takes me a while to reply so please don't think I am being slack if I don't get back to you straight away. I'll give the Wantage records ago. and if I can't get into them I'll let you know..............Many many thanks Aileen. :D
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Tempest91 on Tuesday 11 September 18 02:26 BST (UK)
Hi!
I'm hoping I'm doing this right, as I'm totally new here.
I don't have any information to add, but I am also looking up the history William Gorton and Martha Telling and would love to collab or cross examine information.
Thanks :)
Elly
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: ALL TOGETHER on Wednesday 07 October 20 05:34 BST (UK)
Hi... this is my first post on this site. 
William and Martha GORTON are my 3rd Grt Grandparents.
I am in Australia and descend from their son 'Joseph', one of only 2 of their 4 sons that survived to what evolved into the ENORMOUS Gorton Dynasty in Australia.   
Joseph and his siblings were all orphaned when William and Martha died the same year - 1821. 
IS IT KNOW IF THERE A SICKNESS AT THAT TIME ?
As I understand it the 'caretaker' of the estate of Lord Barrington, where the Gortons were tenants and lived & farmed, took the boys under his wing, and later had them indentured with him to the Australian Ag Co them all being good stockmen. Thats how they came to Australia.
 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION OF THE 3 SISTERS, that were left behind in UK, being ;
* Elizabeth b.1810
* Sophia b.1816 (perhaps married William ALDER ?)
* Charlotte b.1818
These girls names show up in the Australian Gorton line, which would mean the girls were not forgotten by the boys when they came to Australia...  but I have no idea if there was any further contact between the male and female siblings.
with thanks :)
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: ALL TOGETHER on Wednesday 07 October 20 05:45 BST (UK)
Hi!
I'm hoping I'm doing this right, as I'm totally new here.
I don't have any information to add, but I am also looking up the history William Gorton and Martha Telling and would love to collab or cross examine information.
Thanks :)
Elly
Hi Elly - are you interested in the history prior to William and Martha...  or of their family lineage from their 7 children ?
:)
Hi Elly - are you interested in the history prior to William and Martha...  or of their family lineage from their 7 children ?
:)
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: ALL TOGETHER on Wednesday 07 October 20 05:47 BST (UK)
HI - how do I insert an image please ?  all I get is this     ..... when I press the image button.  with thanks Im a rookie :)
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 07 October 20 05:55 BST (UK)
You are on a “look up “ board. You can’t upload images to them

Start another post that is NOT on a look up board, then you will see beneath the white box, “ attachments” and hopefully can follow from there

And post a link on this board to the image
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: ALL TOGETHER on Wednesday 07 October 20 06:02 BST (UK)
... many thanks Mckha489, I'll give it a go, fingers crossed ;)
Title: Re: William GORTON and Martha TELLING from Shrivenham Berkshire Eng.
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 07 October 20 09:30 BST (UK)
All Together,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Please would you post the information on this thread that you would like to share, not just screen shots of a tree on other boards - it gets complicated switching tabs  ;).  By telling everyone, it might make it easier to follow.  A screen shot doesn't always make it clear what particular detail you are highlighting.

Many thanks

Nell
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