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Title: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Wednesday 21 July 10 20:28 BST (UK)
Is there anyone that could possible save some of this pic of my Gt Grandad
He was in the Royal Navy Flying Corps and he was killed in action.
I do not have the knowledge to do this work
thanks in advance
Title: Re: can someone save the person in the photo for me
Post by: silvery on Thursday 22 July 10 10:12 BST (UK)
I feel sure someone will have a go at it very soon.   I wish I could help.  Perhpas modify the title to mention that he was killed in action.   
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 15:24 BST (UK)
Thanks for your advice I changed the title
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 July 10 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi

I did download this before you changed the title  :)

However, it is a big job and will take me a good while - I can only work on restores in blocks of 30 mins max.

Others may come on and produce something faster but just to let you know that I've started  on it.

I'm having to find little  unblemished bits to repair him with.

Gadget
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 16:31 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for trying. This photo must have been in a wet garage of someplace horrible. I guess it is the only photo in existance before he was killed.
I have tried to do this myself, but I just do not know where to begin.
You can cut out the background if you wish. I do not want you to spend time that you do not have
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 July 10 16:33 BST (UK)
Have you got a link to the details on the hat - not sure . All 3 of my cousins were in the RAF  but I've only seen photos of them with cap type hats    :-\
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 16:36 BST (UK)
This is the only info I have
It is my mum’s dad in the Royal Naval Flying Corps during the 1st World 1
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 16:42 BST (UK)
I found this link with photos of the unforms if it will help
http://www.ww1photos.com/RNAS.html
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: billkent on Thursday 22 July 10 16:56 BST (UK)
One from me.

Bill.  :)

PS Fitted new cap badge.
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 17:00 BST (UK)
Bill, sorry I did not thank you enough. I was between busses so really was in a hurry. You did a great job. I appreciate your time and effort.
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Genie2004 on Thursday 22 July 10 17:03 BST (UK)
Bill, absolutely brilliant, considering the condition of the original

must have taken ages

Genie :)
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: billkent on Thursday 22 July 10 18:00 BST (UK)
You are very welcome Joy....I tried to download your lovely Gif but when I Email it to myself it arrives but dosen't move.. it moves OK on my desktop, I must be doing something wrong, any suggestions??

 And thank you Genie.  :-*

Bill.  ;)
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Niksmum on Thursday 22 July 10 18:20 BST (UK)
I am working on it as well but as Gadget said it is going to take a while  :)

Nice job Bill  ;D

Irene
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Thursday 22 July 10 18:29 BST (UK)
No problem do what you can do and not what you can't
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Niksmum on Friday 23 July 10 02:45 BST (UK)
I hope this is a near likeness  ??? ???

Irene
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Niksmum on Friday 23 July 10 02:47 BST (UK)
a black/white version

Irene
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Friday 23 July 10 04:41 BST (UK)
Thanks a great job. I appreciate your taking time
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: terry h on Friday 23 July 10 10:40 BST (UK)
A try from me

Terry
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Gadget on Friday 23 July 10 11:13 BST (UK)
and mine

(I borrowed his cap)

Gadget
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: billkent on Friday 23 July 10 12:14 BST (UK)
It looks like we both borrowed the same cap Gadget only I reversed it to put the shine on the other side. ;D

Bill.  ;)
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Gadget on Friday 23 July 10 12:22 BST (UK)
I reversed it too, Bill,  but I deshined  the brim a bit   :)

Here's a slightly different one

T'weren't the easiest, t'were it ?



Gadget
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: billkent on Friday 23 July 10 12:48 BST (UK)
Certainly was a challenging one Gadget, but that's why we like 'em.  ;D

Bill.  ;)
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: LizzieW on Friday 23 July 10 13:33 BST (UK)
I'm only an onlooker but just wanted to say I think you are all brilliant.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Friday 23 July 10 15:17 BST (UK)
What wonderful work I wanted to thank Gadget, Bill, Terry for such excellent work. I am off to the UK on Monday for a family gathering so this pic came at a perfect time. Again thank you
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: petercat on Saturday 24 July 10 01:43 BST (UK)
Thought I'd try this one but I must be slow - I'm about half-way done. I'll probably finish it tomorrow.

I must say the restorers have done brilliant work already - I doubt if mine will be half as good but I'd would like to finish it.  He's a handsome chap!

Here's a question: is there a button and strap thing (don't know what it's called) on his right shoulder?
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 02:15 BST (UK)
I am not sure I will go into a web  site and check. It is called a I think I am just trying to check a website and will let you know
yes on the left side there are 4 buttons. I will try and upload a picture for you to see although it is not my guy
They are called Royal Navy Flying Corps
[ English ] 
 
 
 
Pilot Officer of England's Royal Flying Corps, c. 1917.

* Detailed prim shoulderboards
* Cap and shoes/boot tops resize with menu. Low lag, only 1 script each!
*).
 
This is all I could find sorry
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: petercat on Saturday 24 July 10 20:44 BST (UK)
There's still a few untidy bits on this but my eyes have packed it in for this evening.
Have a nice trip to the UK.

Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 21:16 BST (UK)
Thanks for such a wonderful job, for taking time and for your special care
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 24 July 10 21:22 BST (UK)
This is a Naval chap and therefore he would not be wearing the Sam Browne....

That is an Army affectation  ;)

He would have been Royal Naval Air Service...

Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 21:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply, the picture was so badely damaged I could not really get a clear picture. I tried google and manged to get some photos. I did the best I could with what I could find.
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 24 July 10 21:27 BST (UK)
Not to worry we can help more! What was his name...?
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 21:33 BST (UK)
Gerald Barnett Todd b 17 Oct 1884 Swineshead, nr Boston, Lincs
I recall granddad telling me that he was in the Royal Naval Flying Corp and the army, and a search of the records suggests he was also in the Seaforth Highlanders, which is not surprising
Thanks, I am leaving for England Monday but will still check my emails
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 24 July 10 21:37 BST (UK)
This is the photo that Bill and I used to reconstruct from:

http://www.ww1photos.com/Archive_Officer_RNAS.jpg



Gadget
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 22:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget I am not sure where you got it but great. I know that your time is precious
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 24 July 10 22:12 BST (UK)
Hmmmm....

Cant see a complete match for him...

http://www.cwgc.org/search/SearchResults.aspx?surname=todd&initials=&war=1&yearfrom=1914&yearto=1919&force=&nationality=6&send.x=52&send.y=8
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 22:48 BST (UK)
No problem. This will take time I will try after I return from the UK. I might get more info there.
Again thanks
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 24 July 10 22:51 BST (UK)
The CWGC site has all the dead of both world wars....The best place to start...
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 22:54 BST (UK)
This is sad but for me it is connecting with those who gave their lives.
I will try when I get back. Thanks again
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: billkent on Saturday 24 July 10 23:05 BST (UK)
Here's a photograph showing a RNAS group at  http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/graphics/gw_royalnavalflyingcor_01.jpg

Bill.
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 23:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Bill, I did find this pic  but could not find a lone photo. Gadget just sent me one which is good.
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: petercat on Saturday 24 July 10 23:35 BST (UK)
Apologies if I've restored the uniform incorrectly. I didn't have another photo of the jacket to go by so I went by whatever I could make out on the original photo. I could tweak the jacket to look more like the photos linked to above. It would have to be in a few days though. Unless you are happy with what you have already.  :)

(I can't see any white stripes near his cuff though - no matter how much I stare)
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Saturday 24 July 10 23:45 BST (UK)
Do what you can do and not what you cannot do. I do not want you spending any more time.
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: seahall on Sunday 25 July 10 08:30 BST (UK)
Hi All.

Joy do you know where or when Gerald died.

Also which records showed you the information about
where Gerald served or any other family info that may
help find him.

Sandy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: roadrunner465 on Sunday 25 July 10 15:54 BST (UK)
Sandy
do not worry about this. I will try and talk to family members when I am in the uk but they are all old so I do not count on memories. I will plod again the best I can
Joy
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: seahall on Sunday 25 July 10 21:03 BST (UK)
Blimmey Son (Scrimnet)  ;D.

I thought we were going to be helpful here.  ;D

Not that I can compete with you on Military.

Maybe on our home County.  ;D

Mum
Title: Re: Please . airman killed in Action
Post by: silvery on Monday 26 July 10 18:27 BST (UK)
Just go back from weekend away and I think all you restorers have done a most wonderful job on the picture.   Amazing.