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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: hmserge on Tuesday 20 July 10 13:34 BST (UK)
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Hi
I was wondering whether anyone had can help, please?
I am looking for a Stanley Cockroft born about 1898 Yorkshire, England. I have found 2 records for him in Canada (soldiers of first world war and 1916 Canada census of Manitoba), I was wondering what details were wrote down for him. I would be most grateful to know if anyone finds him in passenger records.
Stanley's uncle was a Joseph Shaw born about 1846 Halifax, Yorkshire, England. He went to Canada on the Bavarian in 1903 but I cannot find any other record for Joseph Shaw after that date. I am wondering whether Stanley went to Canada to see or even live with him.
If anyone can find passenger lists etc for me I would be most grateful. I am desperately trying to find out what happened to Joseph in Canada.
Thank you :)
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You may view Stanley's attestation papers here:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
(You can see the actual image of his record.)
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According to the papers, he was born 30 October 1897 in Brighouse, Yorkshire, England.
Perhaps you know this, but a Stanley Cockroft, born 30 October 1897, passed away in Orange County, Florida on 11 January 1985.
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Do you have or need information about Stanley's life after his arrival in Canada?
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http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
- there's a marriage for a Stanley Cockroft in 1923 in Manitoba.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
- shows "Stanl Cockcroft" heading to Canada (St. John, Newfoundland) in 1915.
For tracing Joseph Shaw - what date did he arrive on the Bavarian? (it made several crossings in 1903).
You can see the original image here:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html - it should say on the passenger list what his final destination was.
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Hi Lisa and jorose
Thank you for your replies. I don't have subscription to find my past, but does it give who Samuel Cockroft was travelling with in the passenger list?
I will view the information you have given me ;)
Thanks for the information of his date of birth and death, I didn't have these dates so that's great thank you.
Joseph emigrated on the 28th May 1903 from Liverpool to Montreal. He travelled with his brother James and a friend Mr Drake. It seems Mr Drake stayed in Canada and James travelled back to Yorkshire, England. Joseph disappears :( . I thought that maybe Stanley may have emigrated to Canada to be with his uncle, but no sure. What date did it say Stanley emigrated?
Thank you both once again
Heidi
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1916 Census for Manitoba......
Herbert Jackson Head 33 Farmer b. England Immig 1903 Presbyterian
Emmiline Jackson Wife 33 b. England Immig 1911 Presbyterian
Stanley Cockroft Brother-in-law 18 Farmer Single b. England Immig 1915 Presbyterian
Rural Municipality of Minto, Marquette District
Polarbear
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Thank you Polabear ;)
No Joseph with him. I wonder if he died before that date?
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A possible sighting for Joseph ..... you didn't say if he had a family?
1906 Census for Saskatshewan, Manitoba, and Alberta can be accessed for free at the website below as well as the 1901 and 1911 Censuses for all of Canada. Click on 'split view' at the top of the transcription to see the original image.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/
In Assiniboia, Saskatchewan
Joseph Shaw 57
Sophie, his wife 40
Frank 22
Ethel 12
Vera 4, their children
All b. England
Al immigrated in 1903.
Hope they are yours. You should find at least some of them and Stanley in the 1901 and 1911 Censuses at the link above if they stayed in Canada.
Cockroft seems an unusual name. In the Manitoba BMD index you were given the link to above there are 6 Cockroft marriages listed including Emmilines to Herbert Jackson. I wonder if the other folks are also related? There are also a few deaths.
PB
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hi polarbear,
Thanks again for your reply and the information you have told me.
I forgot to mention that Joseph's is a funny story. He was married to a Sophia with several children. But Sophia moved to Blackpool, Lancashire in England to open a guest house with the younger children. She is still living in Blackpool in 1911. It seems Joseph went to Canada without his family. In the 1901 census he is boarding at a friend's house in Halifax, Yorkshire whilst Sophia is in Blackpool with the children. Maybe the marriage broke down.
They didn't have any children called Frank, Ethel and Vera, which is a shame as I would have loved this to be the Joseph and Sophia that I am looking for. :(
I have searched all over for Joseph after 1903 but have had no luck whatsoever.
Looking at the Cockroft family it seems a few of them emigrated to Canada, maybe even Joseph Shaw's sister Martha Ann Cockroft?
I think Joseph may have died in Canada but cannot find any trace for him. He was a wire drawer in Halifax Yorkshire.
Thanks once again and I will take a look at the Cockroft information. This is much appreciated
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Found the marriages of a daughter & son, death of that son....an obituary for his wife "Treva" Millicent Blackburn was her actual name & she was born Nova Scotia in 1902. She died 1961 while in N.S. ( wow, so young!) https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/GANS/HalifaxFuneralHome.html
So one can see that transcription can surely lose information for a generation. She may be this transcription in 1911 as Tresa. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=6005
Stanley did die in Florida 1985 as Lisa found! The obit says he worked for Canada post, and names/locations for the children. There are 2 obits for him! He was interred in Nova Scotia. He was remarried to a lady with the same name as a sister-in-law, and I looked for her info but never found it... ran out of time...
Never found anything substantial on Joseph as the name is far too common, and sophie/sophia keywording didn't help, sorry...
please send me your email address by PRIVATE MESSAGE ( the green scroll under my name) & I will send the images.
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Here is the obit for the son!
http://www.passagesmb.com/obituary_details.cfm?ObitID=131944
ah, and Effie died in N.S. ...it was her sister ;D
COCKROFT, Effie Grace (BLACKBURN); 93
Lakeside Road NS; Chron-Herald; 2004-1-2; kbutler
http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=grace%2B+&type=Keyword&Start=9500
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Here is your information, scroll down on page...I seem to be having problems with getting spammed as people are adding my email address to their address list when I send them info...also some are not getting the email, so am trying something different...
Your lookups will be posted here so go and look right away as I will want to delete them as soon as I can so as to not load up my service provider with huge files...Please acknowledge that you have seen/copied them!!
http://www.members.shaw.ca/remember/Roots.htm
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Hi,,
Thank you so much for the info. I have copied the details.
Much appreciated and thanks for your time and help.
Best wishes
Heidi :)
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In response to Re: Lookups Please (Manitoba?)
Stanley Cockroft and Joseph Shaw
I was surprised to see your inquiry regarding Stanley Cockroft and Joseph Shaw. I have been researching these people also as Stanley Cockroft is my grandfather. My grandfather lived in Winnipeg Manitoba. I know that Joseph was his uncle but we have no information about him. I do know that his sister Martha Ann Cockroft (my ggrandmother) is buried in Winnipeg.
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Hi babyblu
Thank you for your reply it was lovely to hear from you about Stanley Cockcroft and Joseph Shaw.
All my details are on ancestry if you have this I can invite you to view my tree? I've no idea what happened to Joseph Shaw once he arrived in Canada. There is evidence of him as a passenger on the Bavarian but that is all I can find. I've been trying to find his whereabouts for such a long time but with no luck.
I do have quite a few details on the Shaw family which I could share with you.
Heidi :)
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Hello Heidi,
I'm very pleased to hear back from you. Do I have to subscribe to ancestory.com to view?
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Hi
I think you will have to make an account with ancestry uk but you don't have to subscribe :-\ I'm unsure but you could check ancestry out and see what it says, if you do make an account I can invite you to view my tree. When you have made 3 or more postings on here (I think that's right) I will be able to give you my email so I can send you details ;)
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Hello Heidi,
Do you not believe the Joseph Shaw in the 1906 census for Saskatchewan is the person you are searching for? I noticed that Joseph and Sophie had a daughter Ethel. My father had a cousin named Ethel but the one in the census would be older and I wondered if Ethel might has had a daughter she named Ethel? I would like to be in touch by email, and I will email you if I can.
Allison
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babyblu, welcome to rootshat! Now that you have several entries, you can use the private messaging system to discuss the living, etc... ( click on the green scroll under that person's username or avatar)
You can also exchange email addresses on there, so do not ever post on the site as you will be spammed almost immediately. all the best, J.J.
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I'm not directly related to the Cockrofts, but Stanley Cockroft's sister Emmeline was my great grandfather's first wife (not my great grandmother). So my cousins on that side are related to this family.
I don't have much at this point that hasn't been mentioned here, but I do have a couple of pictures of Stanley. See his profile on WikiTree for everything I have on him so far: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cockroft-6
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Hello
Thank you for replying to this post and thank you for the information about Stanley. I am related to the Shaw side but any information is great. I will take a look at Stanley's info asap.
Thanks again for replying.
Best wishes
Heidi
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Hello, I am Amanda Cockroft, and Stanley (1897-1985) was my great uncle. My grandfather being his brother. I have a lot of family info, photos, souvenirs etc. which I'm happy to share with Stanley's relatives.
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Hi Amanda,
Great to hear from you on Rootschat and it’s nice to hear that you’re related to Stanley. :)
It would be lovely to see any photos of Stanley