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Title: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: thomplee on Monday 19 July 10 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi

Could anyone help me? I'm looking up my family history and I gt as far back as John Ovens (1856? - 1929) m Margaret Dundas (1857 - 1923)

I've been trying to find John's parents, which I guess could be called Arthur & Ellen (Nellie) but I'm not sure. I've found his children in the 1901/1911 census.

John and Margaret married in Slavin C.O.I and were buried there along with Margaret's Parents. I can't seem to find anything on John's Parents, where they were buried or lived.. I'm assuming around the same area.

Any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 19 July 10 15:43 BST (UK)
The marriage certificate should list the fathers' names and occupations.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: kingskerswell on Monday 19 July 10 16:08 BST (UK)
Hi,
    The IGI has an extracted record of Arthur Ovens who married Mary Carrot on 27 Feb 1849 in the parish of Innismacsaint. Using these names in a parent search gives some children who were born in the 1860s but no John. Two of the children were registered as born in Ely. Co. Fermanagh.

Regards

PS Arthur Ovens married Ellen McDermod in Slavin Church of ireland on 30 Mar 1855. Cannot find any children for this couple.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: thomplee on Wednesday 21 July 10 22:53 BST (UK)
The marriage certificate should list the fathers' names and occupations.

Where would I find the marriage certificates? The records in Slavin church were destroyed to my knowledge anyway.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 21 July 10 23:00 BST (UK)
The church records may have been destroyed (perhaps after being sent to Dublin for safekeeping) but the civil marriage record should survive.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: thomplee on Sunday 05 September 10 19:12 BST (UK)
The church records may have been destroyed (perhaps after being sent to Dublin for safekeeping) but the civil marriage record should survive.


sorry for the delay. I checked the civil records on http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584964 (this was advised by the boards)

I only found the two baptisms of John's children (Wm John & Arthur) I could not trace John's parents.
Do you have any other suggestions where to look?

Many thanks
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 05 September 10 19:14 BST (UK)
As I said earlier, the civil marriage certificate should list father's name.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: thomplee on Sunday 05 September 10 23:49 BST (UK)
but where can i find the civil marriage record?
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 05 September 10 23:51 BST (UK)
It's explained in Introduction to Irish Records-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: Kovens on Wednesday 29 January 14 04:41 GMT (UK)
You may have already seen this but, just in case it proves to be helpful; I recently found a http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/cemeteries/slavin-graveyard-plot-1.txt of about 30 Ovens Buried at the Slavin church Cemetery, some of the transcriptions include family relation such as wife or son, the others can be inferred with a reasonable sense of validity.

Also as I am on Ovens and researching this surname as thoroughly as possible has become my mission; I have created a web page in the hope of attracting other Ovens (and related families) together in one place to pool our knowledge and fill in the gaps/ connect the various branches of the Tree. Our goal is to create one Ovens tree containing as much information as possible about the Ovens Surname and Tree in one place. the web page is less then a month old but, coming alon nicely. Please visit us at www.ovensfamily.net if you are interested in joining us.
Title: Re: John Ovens of Drumbadmeen
Post by: Carlm on Wednesday 29 January 14 06:16 GMT (UK)
Hmm.  Drumbadmeen, right next door to Drumcrow West where I have a nest of Owenses.  (With a w.)  I've suspected for some time now that Owens and Ovens are versions of the same name.  There seems to be some crossover between the names in that area.  I am descended from John II born 1800, died 1844, son of John Owens I and his second wife, name unknown, maybe Eleanor.
John I and his first wife (also unknown) had Rev. Thomas (ordained by John Wesley in 1785, died 1808), Frank(?? in 1700's more likely Francis), Torrance or Terrance, William , Edward, Kitty (?), mary, Letty(?).
I'm pretty confident about Rev. Thomas, and am certain about John II and subsequent.