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Title: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Sunday 18 July 10 21:19 BST (UK)
I have generations of Carters coming from Penshaw but find the BT's only go back to 1762. is this because the earlier ones haven't been copied or don't they exist at all? Or do they come under another place?

I have:
Thomas Carter bap abt 1751 from death 1821 on DRO.
he was married to Isabel Wilkin of Darlington in sept 1773 Penshaw (marriage on BT's).
I have 3 children from BT's / DRo: John 1776 (my line); thomas 1780; Joseph 1783

is there any way of finding Thomas Carter 1751 parents?

TIA,
Diddy  ;D
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 19 July 10 09:02 BST (UK)
The chapelry's earliest records are 1754.  Penshaw was part of Houghton le Spring.  I would look there they go back to 1563.

Janis
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 19 July 10 13:36 BST (UK)
thanks Janis. at least i have a year so not so much searching! i hope!!

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 19 July 10 13:40 BST (UK)
ah problem - just looked and the BT's for Houghton online only go back to 1762 as well. does anyone have access to the PRs please?

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 19 July 10 16:19 BST (UK)
My transcript goes back to 1746.  I looked from 1750-1755 and didn't see a Thomas Carter.  There was a Carter family having children that lived in Cox Green and that was a John Carter.  see Bapt of Mary Carter 5 Feb 1749.

I looked in Washington also (but didn't see any Thomas for that time period) .  It seems depending on which side of the Wear you lived whether you would be in the parish of Penshaw area or Washington.  From Cox Green Washington may have been easier to get to than Houghton.

Janis
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 19 July 10 19:52 BST (UK)
thanks for looking Janis. this is the death from DRO:

15 Feb 1821 Thomas Carter, of Coxgreen, age: 70

so he was living in Cox Green at the time. His son John 1776 is down as being bap Cox Green.

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 19 July 10 20:05 BST (UK)
sorry, i don't understand ' see Bapt of Mary Carter 5 Feb 1749.' ?

where can i see it when the online records only go back to 1762?

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 19 July 10 20:06 BST (UK)
the John Carter you have might be a brother of my Thomas. must be related i think - cox greens not that big!!

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 19 July 10 23:07 BST (UK)
So you do not know that Thomas Carter was born in Cox Green, only that he was living there when he died?.  There is nothing on line that you can look at except the IGI.   IF someday you order the film for Houghton le Spring from the LDS, then look for the Mary Carter entry and you will see that there was a Carter family living in Cox Green about the time period you are looking at---if that is of any help to you. 

Janis
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 20 July 10 09:58 BST (UK)
His marriage does state that he and Isabel Wilkin his wife are of 'this chapelry'

Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: 2zpool on Tuesday 20 July 10 11:55 BST (UK)
Unfortunatley "of this parish" means that both lived there at least 3 weeks I believe.  Doesn't mean born there.  By living there they would not have to post banns in two places.

Janis
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: elaine001 on Thursday 13 September 18 14:33 BST (UK)
Hi Diddy,
I have Carter ancestors from there too.  In fact if your ancestor was John Carter (1776-1851) my 5th Great Grandfather, parents Thomas Carter and Isabel Wilkin then we are related, Yea! I am on ancestry and have managed to get back to Thomas Carter's (1754-1821) parents who are John Carter(1715-1765) and his wife Mary Weyman(1720-?)

Chippie
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Thursday 13 September 18 15:38 BST (UK)

Hi yes john & Mary Weyman are my 6xggrandparents. possible baptism for john:


Possible Baptisms, Sunderland District
Location: Bishopwearmouth
Church: St. Michael & All Angels
Denomination: Anglican
9 Nov 1713 John Carter, of Sunderland, son of Stephen Carter


my line forwards from John 1713 - Thomas Carter 1751 - John Carter 1776- Reed carter 1805 - Ann Carter
1835.


Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: elaine001 on Thursday 13 September 18 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi Diddy,
MMM  The early years I have are slightly different but the fact you have a Reed Carter which is unusual points to the same family.

You posted :
my line forwards from John 1713 - Thomas Carter 1751 - John Carter 1776- Reed carter 1805 - Ann Carter

My Line is :
JOHN CARTER CoxGreen 1715 - THOMAS CARTER Coxgreen 1754 - JOHN CARTER Coxgreen 1776 - THOMAS CARTER Coxgreen 1797 (mother Ann Taylor 1st wife of John Carter, your ancestor is Reed Carter, mother Catherine Reed 2nd wife of John Carter) - THOMAS  CARTER Coxgreen 1818 - JOHN CARTER Durham 1841  - JANE CARTER 1865 (my great Grandmother)

Not exactly sure how that makes us related.  Are you in Ancestry?
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: Angelique Rodrigues on Sunday 05 February 23 03:04 GMT (UK)
Hi all! I recently got into tracing my family on my mother’s side. They are mostly from Barbados but before that lived in Staffordshire and Durham.  I also have the Carters of Cox Green in my family tree. I have John Carter who married Catherine Reed, and John’s father Thomas Carter and his father John Carter (b. 1715 married Mary Weyman) and his father Cornelius Carter. I have no info on Cornelius so just thought I’d join this chat to see if anything has sourced since your last conversation.

Finding this entire process fascinating

Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Sunday 05 February 23 13:07 GMT (UK)
Hi, yes I have done further research. where did you find Cornelius - any sources?


I have a possible Baptism for John...9/11/1713 Bishopwearmouth s/o Stephen Carter. source DRO.


Stephen Carter married Joanna Rookesby 28/4/1706 St Nicholas non conform. church, Newcastle. Source English Select Marriages.


Baptism Stephen Carter 17/2/1685 Bishopwearmouth s/o William Carter. Source DRO


Diddy
Title: Re: Carters of Cox Green / Penshaw
Post by: diddymiller on Sunday 05 February 23 13:07 GMT (UK)
BTW  welcome to RC!!


Diddy   ;D