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Title: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 17:02 BST (UK)
I am looking for the death of Robert Geddes possibly in Airdrie between 1858 and 1871.  He was married to Catherine Collins who d.  17 Sep 1871 @ 40 Flowerhill St, Airdrie.  I have looked on Scotlands people and not found him.
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 17:10 BST (UK)
When did he marry and what was his occupation?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 17:24 BST (UK)
He was a coal miner, he was married before 1850 dont have any details
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: excel on Sunday 18 July 10 17:29 BST (UK)
The only Robert Geddes I can find with a wife Catherine was on the 1851 census but this person was a cotton spiner, b 1808 Eaglesham, Renfrew and still living in Eaglesham. There is also a death of a Rober ged*s in 1855, Eaglesham. This couple had quite a few children but as the information doesn't match yours I think this is probably the wrong family.
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 17:33 BST (UK)
There is this record for 1851 census

Catherin Geddes 47
John Geddes 17 occ coal miner
Robert Geddes 15 occ coal miner
James Geddes 11
Robert Ryan 26
Agness Ryan 18

Address Roughcraig Farm

If it is the right family then Robert snr died before 1851

Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 17:39 BST (UK)
Thankyou I have seen that record and the wife's age almost matches Catherine Collins.  I thought John and Agnes were missing, however they seem to be there.  It could be the right family, would it be likely for the Robert to change careers to coal mining so late in life?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 17:45 BST (UK)
Sorry didnt notice that was the census for Airdrie, that seems right.  I dont know why I have him as having died after 1858, I will re-check my records.
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 17:46 BST (UK)
Did Agnes marry Robert Ryan?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 17:50 BST (UK)
No I have her as marrying John Docherty, so am still not sure whether they are correct family
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 19:15 BST (UK)
Who signed Catherine's death record?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 19:37 BST (UK)
Do you have Catherine on the 1861/1871 census?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 19:51 BST (UK)
Her son in law registered the death, name John Docherty.   
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: ev on Sunday 18 July 10 20:12 BST (UK)
hi all  :)

1841 whiterigg new monkland lanark(freeCEN)
robert geddas 38 collier born england
catherine geddas 38 born england
agness geddas 10 b. outside census county
john geddas 8 b. OCC.
robert geddas 6 b. OCC
james geddas 1 b. lanarkshire
agness column(could this be collins?) 28 b. england

ev
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 20:15 BST (UK)
Have you viewed the marriage record for Agnes to see if Robert was still alive?

1859 DOHERTY JOHN and GEDDES  AGNES at AIRDRIE OR NEW MONKLAND /LAN

Was Agnes a widow?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 18 July 10 20:27 BST (UK)
There is this marriage on IGI which could fit with what you have found on the 1851 census Sancti:

ROBERT RYANS and AGNES GEDDES    
Marriage: SEP 1850 in New Monkland

Monica
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 21:08 BST (UK)
I have the wedding cert (1858) for John Geddes son of Robert Geddes both parents are listed as alive, this is why i say he died after 1858.  I dont think that Agnes Geddes is mine as I have her as married to John Docherty
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: sancti on Sunday 18 July 10 21:16 BST (UK)
Have you checked the marriage record for Agnes to John Docherety?
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 21:20 BST (UK)
No I havent checked the marriage of Agnes Geddes John Docherty as I got that information from someone else.  I will check that out soon
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Sunday 18 July 10 22:24 BST (UK)
This one looks interesting

hi all  :)

1841 whiterigg new monkland lanark(freeCEN)
robert geddas 38 collier born england
catherine geddas 38 born england
agness geddas 10 b. outside census county
john geddas 8 b. OCC.
robert geddas 6 b. OCC
james geddas 1 b. lanarkshire
agness column(could this be collins?) 28 b. england

ev
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 18 July 10 22:30 BST (UK)
The 1841 census entry that Ev posted looks to be the same family as the one from 1851 that Sancti posted...

Monica
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: elusivefergies on Monday 19 July 10 19:33 BST (UK)
I have checked the marriage cert of Agnes Geddes, she definately married John Docherty or Doherty in 1859 and her parents RObert Geddes and Catherine Collins were alive.
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: Geddesclan on Tuesday 21 May 13 16:12 BST (UK)
1861 census Catherine Geddes widow 60 Housekeeper born Ireland
                   James Geddes son unmarried 18  Coal Miner born Lanark. New Monkland
                   John Ryans grandson aged 8 Scholar born Lanark. New Monkland

Agnes Geddes married 3 times,
1) Robert Ryans on  1st September 1850 (their son John above)

2) Samuel Smith married in 1856

3) John Docherty married in 1859
Title: Re: Robert Geddes, Airdrie
Post by: Geddesclan on Tuesday 28 May 13 11:35 BST (UK)
Agnes also had a son James Smith from her marriage to Samuel Smith.