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Title: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: zebedee on Saturday 17 July 10 21:19 BST (UK)
I am trying to find my g.g.grandfather, JOHN WILLIAMS, b.1851 in Poole. I believe his mother may have been EDITH but unsure of his father's name. In 1881 census he was in Lancashire and married to CAROLINE BURCHALL b.1855
Thanks
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 17 July 10 22:25 BST (UK)
She was Caroline Birchall according to the entry on Lancs BMD and they married at St Ambrose in 1875.  John was 21 so birthyear c 1854.  1881 shows 1851 and and 1891 shows 1850

The marriage is on the IGI pilot website and Caroline's father was Roger but no father is shown for John.  It's shown as St Ambrose Cheshire on the Pilot site

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

http://pilot.familysearch.org
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 17 July 10 22:38 BST (UK)
I notice they had a daughter Esther.  There is a John Williams b Poole with a mother & sister called Esther but he was b 1844
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: jacques on Saturday 17 July 10 22:46 BST (UK)
Know you didn't ask for 1851 but there is a John Williams and  family living Wyke regis Dorset but his age shows 4 so 1847!!!!
here it is anyway
1851 @ Wyke Regis Dorset
William  Williams Head  36  Journeyman Shoemaker      Born  Dorset  Weymouth
Edith                   Wife   40                                                         "         Long Horton?
Edith Rachel       Dau    14                                                          "         Weymouth
Hannah               "        12
Robert               Son      11
William                "          9
Louisa               Dau       7
Rachel                 "          5
JOHN                 Son       4

James                 "          1                                             All above children born Weymouth

and next door Mary Williams  Wid  74  Parish relief   Born Dorset Wyke Regis
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: zebedee on Saturday 17 July 10 23:17 BST (UK)
Many thanks. Will look at these in more detail tomorrow\is there no record of John in 1861 or 1871 census?
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 July 10 00:20 BST (UK)
No but I notice he was a mariner so could have been at sea in 1871

No John Williams with that profile in either 1861/71

The absence of a fathers name when he married suggests he was illegitimate.  If his mother married before 1861 - he could be shown under her married name instead of Williams
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: zebedee on Sunday 18 July 10 11:38 BST (UK)
Thanks again. I am intrigued as to where he was in 1861 census as he would have been aged 7.
Title: Re: 1861, 1871 Look up please WILLIAMS
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 July 10 19:17 BST (UK)
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I am intrigued as to where he was in 1861 census as he would have been aged 7

From my reply above

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If his mother married before 1861 - he could be shown under her married name instead of Williams