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Title: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Saturday 17 July 10 14:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

My grandfather was in the R.A.O.B. (Buffaloes).  I am desperately trying to find out more about my Grandad who died when I was 6 (I'm now in my mid 50s).  This really is a long shot but is there anyone out there who may be able to help or point me in the right direction.

Kind regards.

Pat
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 17 July 10 14:14 BST (UK)
Hi Pat and welcome to Rootschat

Can you give us a bit more info about Alfred please so we can see if we can help

He was born in 1892 but which county/place was he born in

What year did he die and in which county.  From what you have said above - it was late 1940's 1950's /early 1950's 1960's but there is no match on the death index at the moment

What was your grandmothers christian name and maiden name

 
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: suzard on Saturday 17 July 10 14:52 BST (UK)
Wouldn't the death have been c.1960???

Can't find a matching reg though???

sUZ
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 17 July 10 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi Suz

I'm going to have to go back to school!!  You are quite right so I have edited the dates above

As you say - still nothing fitting that period using a birthyear 1890-1894
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 10:13 BST (UK)
Hi - many thanks for your quick response - caught me on the hop!

My Grandad was born 31st July 1892 in Lambeth.  Before he met up with my Nan he lived in Stamford Street, Lambeth and when my Mum was fairly young, they moved to Bourne Road, Merstham, Surrey.  My Grandad was a Crane Driver for most of his life. 

My Grandad does have at least one RAOB medal but it is now owned by my Uncle in Australia so I don't have all the details to hand.  I think he would have attended a lodge either in London or in Surrey (if one exists).  My grandad died on 11th July 1962.

Please let me know if you require more information and I will endeavour to get it to you.

Kind regards and very best wishes.

Pat
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 10:16 BST (UK)
Oops - forgot a piece of information you requested. 

My Grandad and Nan never married despite having four children.  I believe that my Grandfather had a previously relationship which produced at least one child and they may well have married by I've not been very sucessful in 10 years of genealogy research finding the elusive (first) Mrs Hunt in the marriage registers.

Therefore my Nan's (maiden) name was Haslewood (Marguerite Amelia).

Kind regards.

Pat
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 10:22 BST (UK)
Me again......

Grandad died at his home address of Bourne Road, South Merstham on 11/07/1962. 

Death Register reference: Surrey South Eastern Volume 5G page 620

Kind regards.

Pat
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: nigelp on Sunday 18 July 10 10:35 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

Welcome to Rootschat.

Birth: -

Alfred HUNT  1d 358 Lambeth Sep 1892 qtr

Baptism: -

17 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, Lambeth
Alfred HUNT, son of Harry & Louisa Hunt of 7 Lambeth Palace Road
Harry's occupation is given as circus professional.
Alfred's date of birth is given as 29 Jul 1892. However, there don't appear to be any other Alfred Hunts born in Lambeth in 1892.

1901 Census: -

RG13; Piece: 401; Folio: 9; Page: 9
124 Stamford Street, Lambeth
Harry Hunt Head M 39 General labourer   Jamaica
Louisa Hunt Wife M 36    Suffolk, Woodbridge
Harry Hunt Son S 18 Printer - machine minder  London, Lambeth
Alfred Hunt Son 9   London, Lambeth
Bertie Hunt Son 7   London, Lambeth

Baptism: -

17 Aug 1894 Holy Trinity, Lambeth
Bertie HUNT, son of Harry & Louisa Hunt of 124 Stamford St.
Harry's occupation is given as Equestrian
Date of birth - 22 Jul 1894

Alfred's service records (No. 9575 of Royal Field Artillery) have survived and confirm that he was a crane driver in 1914. He was in the Expeditionary Force and served in France from 8 Jul 1915 until 9 Sep 1916. He received a gun shot wound to his left leg on 5 Sep 1916 and was back in England on 10 Sep 1916. He was admitted to the 4th Scottish Gen. Hospital in Glasgow on 11 Sep 1916 and discharged on 13 Sep 1916. He was again admitted to hospital in Brighton on 24 Oct 1916 for 'wound of leg - thrombosis' and discharged on 30 Oct 1916.

His papers confirm that Harry and Louisa Hunt were his parents. In his description it states 'Indian Parentage'.

His address appears to have been 120 Stamford Street in 1920.

Bertie (aged 23, bachelor, Lance Corporal in Welsh Guards) married Agnes Mary Gooch (spinster) at St Andrew's Church, Coin Street, Lambeth on 8 Dec 1917. They both give their address as 120 Stamford Street. Marriage was by licence. Fathers - Harry Hunt (deceased), linoleum cutter and Edgar Gooch, farmer.

Nigel
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: nigelp on Sunday 18 July 10 12:46 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

Have you looked at the following marriage certificate?

Alfred HUNT & Ethel M. ELY
1d 644 Lambeth Jun 1921 qtr

Ethel Maud Ely: -
Birth: 1d 394 Lambeth Jun 1897 qtr
Baptism: 21 Jan 1898 - All Saints, South Lambeth (parents Richard & Mary Ann)

Nigel
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: Valda on Sunday 18 July 10 14:13 BST (UK)
Hi

FreeBMD has 3 birth registrations between 1921 and 1937 in Lambeth with children registered in the surname Hunt with mother's maiden name Ely. The first child of these 3 was called Alfred. The first two births were in 1921 and 1922.

Three children (details of potentially living people cannot be given on Rootschat) two birth registrations in Lambeth and one in Surrey S. E. births registered as Hunt with mother's maiden name Haslewood registered between 1926-1940.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: nigelp on Sunday 18 July 10 14:20 BST (UK)

Three children (details of potentially living people cannot be given on Rootschat) two birth registrations in Lambeth and one in Surrey S. E. births registered as Hunt with mother's maiden name Haslewood registered between 1926-1940.


Hi Valda,

There appear to be 2 births in Surrey S.E. (1937 and 1940) and 2 births in Lambeth (1926 and 1929) with the mother's maiden name of Haslewood.

Nigel
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 15:03 BST (UK)
Thank you all so very much for your input.

I did request a marriage certificate for HUNT and ELY back in 2002 but as I requested reference checking it came back that Alfred HUNT's occupation was not CRANE DRIVER and his father's occupation was not given as Artist/Circus Performer so I got a partial refund.  However, I should know by now that sometimes people do not always provide facts.....  so I may very well request the certificate anyway in the hope that it does tie up.  It won't necessarily further my research but it would be nice to tie up loose ends.  However, the 'hunt' for Alfred HUNT goes on particularly with regard to the R.A.O.B.

The two birth entries relate to my Uncle (born 1937) and my Aunt (born 1940).

Kind regards

Pat
Title: Harry HUNT 1882/1883?
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 15:16 BST (UK)
Hi,

As you appear to have a wealth of info and access to research aids, I thought I would chance my luck and throw this in for debate.

My Great Grandparents, Henry aka Harry HUNT and Louisa THURLOW married 1st Qtr 1884, however their first child also called Harry appears in the 1891 census age 8 and 1901 census age 18 so this implies that he was born 1882/1883 before they actually married.  I CANNOT find reference anywhere to a Harry HUNT being born to Louisa HUNT or Louisa THURLOW.  Louisa originally came from Woodbridge in Suffolk and I thought she might have returned home to give birth.  None of the birth records that I have come across over the years would appear to substantiate that line of thought.  So, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Also Harry HUNT dies sometime between the 1901 and 1911 census but I just CANNOT find reference to his death.  Prior to the 1911 census being released I thought he might have died during WW1.  Legend has it that he died at sea but I can't find any UK records to back this up.  Again, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Kind regards, once again.

Pat

Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 18 July 10 18:12 BST (UK)
Hi Pat

Have you looked for his birth under Thurlow?  He could have been illegitimate and then took

There is a birth on freebmd in the September qtr 1881 for a Harry Oak Thurlow in Thetford

 
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: nigelp on Sunday 18 July 10 18:29 BST (UK)
Hi Pat

Have you looked for his birth under Thurlow?  He could have been illegitimate and then took

There is a birth on freebmd in the September qtr 1881 for a Harry Oak Thurlow in Thetford


Hi Carole,

Problem ....

Death: -

THURLOW Harry Oak  - age 1 - 4b 297 Thetford Mar 1883 qtr

Pat mentions looking for births to Louisa Hunt and Thurlow.

Nigel
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Sunday 18 July 10 18:36 BST (UK)
One of the reasons why I enjoy family history so much.........  there's brick walls, puzzles, skeletons in cupboards......  I know I will find the answers to my questions one day - just hope that I will still be around to see that day!   ;)
Title: Re: R.A.O.B. - Alfred Hunt dob 1892
Post by: booker12316 on Wednesday 28 July 10 20:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have a bit more information on my Grandad's 'Buffalo' medals received from my Uncle in Australia.  Hopefully someone will be able to give me more information on this and the Buffalos in general.  In my Uncle's letter, he tries to described the medals (he did suffer a stroke a few months previously):

Inscribed on all of them Victoria R.A.O.B. Grand Council Lodge No. 966 Presented to (Primo) A. Hunt Lodge No. 966
War medal The Great War for Civilisation 1914 - 1919;
A Silver Medal 1914 - 1918 Blue, White, Yellow, White & Blue a man on a charger;
Red, White, Blue Star on Crown & ???? cross swords 1914 - 1915

Can ANYONE out there shed some light on these?

Kind regards

Pat