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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: Monivea on Friday 16 July 10 11:13 BST (UK)
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Hi im looking for information on martha hetherington and oliver stringer who lived in knocktopher co kilkenny around 1860's to the 1890's their children were elizabeth, george, john james, lucy, caroline and martha. Any information would be very much appreciated.
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Dont know what sort of details you already have, but there are birth details for several of the children in the extracted records collection on familysearch - see : Extracted Births, 1864-1881 (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=fs%3A1584963&p=collectionDetails)
Included are :
George - 21 Nov 1864
James William - 1 Mar 1867
Caroline - 18 May 1869
Martha Isabella - 1 Nov 1870
All in the Knocktopher area. A civil cert would give a more detailed address. For births before full civil registration started (1864) you will need to check parish records.
There also a birth of a John to an Oliver Stringer and Martha Harrington - which could be a typo
Shane
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The marriage of Oliver and Martha is included in the extracted marriage records (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=fs%3A1584964&p=collectionDetails) :
Groom : Oliver Stringer age 21
Bride : Martha Hetherington age 22
Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1855
Marriage Place: Errigal Trough, Mon (Monaghan?)
Groom's Father's Name: James Stringer
Bride's Father's Name: John Hetherington
A civil marriage cert would give you more details, such as residence of bride & groom at the time of marriage, and occupations of Oliver, James and John
Shane
see related posts :
Stringer family (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,468479.msg3286687.html#msg3286687) (Limerick)
Hetherington/ stringer (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,468476.msg3286663.html#msg3286663) (Tyrone)
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thanks a million shane for all the info ;)
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Hi just wondering would anyone know where oliver stringer would have worked as a steward in the area of knocktopher? How would i find out about who the local landlords were? Is there a chance he could have worked in mount juliet? Dont know how to go about lookin for this information.
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Hello. I think we are searching for the same family. This is my husband's family (Derrick Stringer). I have passed on to him what you have found. Do you know if there are any live relatives. His brother John Les Stringer is goind to Ireland at the begining of September 2011. I have found out where John's Stringer's family are buried, Martha and Oliver Stringer are also buried there.
Regards
Jackie Stringer
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Hi jackie, do you know what connection your husband has with oliver and martha? I havent found any stringers living at all yet im afraid. I got alot of my information from a women researching the same family line. I think her name on roots is mother hen.
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Derrick and John Leslie are decended from Robert Henry Stringer born 1918 who was John Stringer's son. I think Martha Hetherington and Oliver Stringer were John Stringer's parents.
Regards
Jackie
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Oh thats great! I was came across john stringer alright. He is recorded on the 1901 and 1911 irish census along with his wife and children. I am a connected to johns sister martha who would have been my great great grandmother. She married sat delaney and lived in clare. I found out george lived in dublin with two daughters, caroline married bryan day and died in child birth. Still trying to find out where the other siblings ended up!
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Did you know that Martha, Oliver, John Lettuica and James are buried at Kilfinaghty Church of ireland, Grave no. 7, Sixmilebridge? Thomas and Edward Stringer went to England (both have since died). I have a copy of Robert Henry's birth certificate that shows John Stringer and Letitia Walker/Stringer. Have you any pictures as his dad died when he was 40 and he was only 4, so that side of family remained a mystery until a year ago as his mum also died without revealing much about the family.
Regards
Jackie
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Pat Delaney & Martha Stringer are my Great grandparents. They were in Co. Clare circa 1898-1912, moved to Co. Galway then.
I had found the "Kilfinaghty Church of ireland" graveyard link just before I found this forum link. As regards Co. Clare COI records for the Stringers, I believe these are kept centrally at Clare Co. Library. Will follow this up.
Will keep a look in at this as I got much previously unknown info on the Stringers pre 1900 from this post.
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Did you know that Martha, Oliver, John Lettuica and James are buried at Kilfinaghty Church of ireland, Grave no. 7, Sixmilebridge? Thomas and Edward Stringer went to England (both have since died). I have a copy of Robert Henry's birth certificate that shows John Stringer and Letitia Walker/Stringer. Have you any pictures as his dad died when he was 40 and he was only 4, so that side of family remained a mystery until a year ago as his mum also died without revealing much about the family.
Regards
Jackie
I have located a couple of pictures of Pat Delaney and Martha Stringer. Am I correct that John (married to Letitia) was a brother of this Martha (b. 1870)?
Going on whats been posted so far, I believe "monivea's" Grandparent is a first cousin of my Mother! Obviously all linked to "thebestmummyo" as well.
Very interested to build this further. Will PM if others willing.
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That would be great. Did you see the Limerick Chronicle of 1903 announcing the death of Martha Stringer (wife of Oliver Stringer) on the internet. Have quite a few documents of the Stringer family marriage and consensus records. There appeared to be 2 children of John stringer named Edward.
Do you think if someone went in the church they might be able to tell us there are any living relatives still alive.
Regards
Jackie
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Had spotted the death notice. Trying to find out why she was at this address at this time? I hope to call to the cemetery in Sixmilebridge to look for whatever details are available. As I mentiond earlier most of the COI records are with Clare Co. Library. Will follow that up too when I get a chance.
I don't know of any decendants named Stringer at the moment, apart from your connections. There must be some in Ireland still!
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Martha and Oliver stringer are my great great grandparents, John and Letitia being my great grand parents, James their son was my grandfather.
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Great hear from you. Was James Stringer Robert Henry's brother?
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I presume they would be. In 1911 census John and Letitia have 5 children Richard George James Thomas and Edward. When was Robert Henry born?
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Martha Stringer and Patrick Delaney are my husbands grandparents please contact me on my email pamdelaney1947@yahoo.co.uk
Regards
Pam Delaney :)
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I have Stringer in my family but have not discovered the Irish connection, was told it was very difficult pre 1800. My Stringer family settled in Staffordshire and have a William Stringer marrying 1824 Kingswinford, Staffs so if anyone has a connection would very much like to discover where in Ireland they come from. My Grandmother being Mary Jane Stringer. Many thanks, Syljun.
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I have only gone back to Oliver Stringer abt 1834 and his wife Martha Hetherington abt 1834 but have their children. There is a Mary Jane Peare born 1881 in Clare that is related to them but cant find anything on her.I found a birth record that could be her I might have to take a chance and send for it.
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He was born in 1918. Would love to hear from you. (*). Are you on Facebook? It would be great to hear all about the Stringer family.
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Yes im on FB,i will email you in a mo
Pam
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Jackie is that you as its the email I have for you x
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Pam have been trying to find out a bit about Mary Jane peare too. i have her birth year as 1888 going off the census. found her living in sligo in cleveragh house in the 1911 census working as a servant for a man named col William Gregory wood martin. find it fascinating as i work in cleveragh at the moment. have also lived about 2 miles away from knocktopher a few years back possibly on the land where Oliver stringer would have worked as a land stewart. little did i know that my ancestors had been and gone to the same spot years before.
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Iv sent for her birth cert so hopefully will find out who she belongs to.I'l get back once I find out .Hopefully next week .U have also sent for a birth on a Martha May Delaney 1907 as I think it's a child that died of Martha and Patrick.
On the 1911c there is 5 children my father in law being the last one born in 1910, but it states 7 children born 6 living .So my thinking is the Martha May could hopefully be one but she died 1907 as well but can't for the life of me find number 6.
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You are not allowed to post email addresses (that's one of the reasons for the Personal Message system) so you'll need to click on modify, remove the address and then click save. Not sure why the one from September is still here :-\
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Ok no prob
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Hi all,
Right i'v just got the birth cert for Mary Jane Peare she was born 20/07/1886 in Cooley Casey, Limerick, Co Clare .
Fathers name John Peare occupation Police Constable mother Rachel Stringer.
I'v looked on 1901 and 1911c for Ireland.... Family Search ....Roots Ireland ......Ancestry and came up with nothing on either a birth for Rachel or marriage for her and John Peare .
So need help and idea's please .
Pam
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Hi all,
......... I'v looked on 1901 and 1911c for Ireland.... Family Search ....Roots Ireland ......Ancestry and came up with nothing on either a birth for Rachel or marriage for her and John Peare .
So need help and idea's please .
Pam
Hi all,
Have read the various above posts with a great deal of fascination! I have a problem with the Stringer family. For more than 20 years now, I have been trying to find information on John Patrick Stringer who is father of Dominic Michael. Dominic Michel was my father in law was born in Ireland (I believe) 14.04.1919 or 1922, was brought up in Glasgow possibly by his grandmother and died in London in November 1986 I have been unable to trace his birth certificate. Also John Patrick (listed as a carpenter on Dominic Michael's marriage certificate) appears to have neither been born or died! Dominic Michael had an older brother known as "Jack" and may have had a sister too. It is also possible that he was one of twins, the other twin and the mother both died either at childbirth or soon after.
Does this ring ny bells with any of you?
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hi pam sorry im only getting back to you now, never get the time for researching any more :'( just on mary jane peares father being a police constable. i have had a few police men on my fathers side and can never find any information in the census about them or their birth or marriage records. its like they were kept private, probably for safety for themselves and their family. all records for police officers are kept at dublin castle and can be requested but i think its pretty expensive to do so. i wonder where rachel stringer fits in. havent come across her name before
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I just started to look at this line again if anyone else is still searching. We can add two more daughters to Oliver and Martha's brood. Mary and Rachel. Mary married an ric sub-constable Thomas pierce on the same day her sister Eliza jane married her husband another RIC man Edward reading. Rachel married Henry Carr in wicklow 1901. Her only child was Mary Jane peare. I dont think Rachel was married to Mary Jane's father. No sign of a marriage cert anyway.
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Hi Monivea, shanew147, thebestmummyo, tomma, Doolinsharon, pamd and syljun
This is something of a very long shot. do any of your families connect to Glasgow? I am looking for the following names: Burt,Casey, Cunningham, Curran, Duff, Fotheringham, McBide, McFarlane, McGurk, McPherson, Rafter(s)/Raferty, Shepherd and Smith.
Burt and Casey are the main family names the others have married into thes families between 1990 (ish) and 1950's.
If any of you have a connection to these families in Glasgow please contact me.
Thanks folks!
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From the 2020 reply (#31), URL links-
Mary and Rachel. Mary married an ric sub-constable Thomas pierce on the same day her sister Eliza jane married her husband another RIC man Edward reading.
Edward READING to Eliza Jane STRINGER - 13 August 1878 - Knocktopher Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11112/8067768.pdf
On the same date, Thomas PRICE to Mary STRINGER. Their father Oliver Stringer, a steward.
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Right i'v just got the birth cert for Mary Jane Peare she was born 20/07/1886 in Cooley Casey, Limerick, Co Clare .
Fathers name John Peare occupation Police Constable mother Rachel Stringer.
Born at Ballycullen townland in the civil parish of Kilfinaghta.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02586/1955989.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/clare/bunratty-lower/kilfinaghta/castlecrine/ballycullen/
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Pat Delaney & Martha Stringer are my Great grandparents. They were in Co. Clare circa 1898-1912, moved to Co. Galway then.
Marriage 19 August 1898 at St Michael's RC Church, Limerick city.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10430/5797955.pdf
1901 census
House 1 in Cornfield (Ballynacally, Clare).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ballynacally/Cornfield/1075581/
Cornfield townland
https://www.townlands.ie/clare/clonderalaw/kilchrest/ballynacally/cornfield/
Patrick maybe a gamekeeper at Cornfield House.
https://arcg.is/0m8mnm (1897-1913 map) - MapGenie 25 Inch - ITM
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1901 census
House 1 in Cornfield (Ballynacally, Clare).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ballynacally/Cornfield/1075581/
Patrick Michael (aged 2) in the above census born 27 September 1898 at Ballynagarde townland, Co Limerick. His mother Martha nee Stringer.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02056/1786688.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/clanwilliam/ballybricken/ballynagarde/
Lucy (aged 1) born 23 March 1900 at Cornfield townland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01992/1766603.pdf
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Further children-
John Walter Delaney 15 January 1902, William Delaney 19 September 1903, Martha May Delaney 10 February 1907, Francis Delaney 3 August 1910, Mary Delaney 1 July 1912 all born at Cornfield.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t6z/
Sadly, Martha May died aged 5 days at Cornfield.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05536/4552024.pdf