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Title: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:02 BST (UK)
Hi All

Would like to find Cornelius Edwin and Ellen TEMPLE in the 1871 census.

I have them in 1851 & 1861. Cornelius was born in Scotland in 1822. Ellen was born in Roehampton, Surrey around 1828. Their children i have found are Ellen TEMPLE, James TEMPLE and Frederick Stephen TEMPLE.

Just curious to find them in 1871

Thanks in anticipation

Roni

Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 15 July 10 14:05 BST (UK)
1871
ellen is widowed
RG10/716/29/18
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:10 BST (UK)
Hi Wozzle!

 i would love for you to post the full entry

Roni


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Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 15 July 10 14:20 BST (UK)
1871
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ellen temple age 44. b. roehampton. occ. laundress. head(wid)
james age 16. b. brompton,middx. occ. painters apprentice. son
charles age 7. b. wandsworth. son
oliver age 10mnths. b. putney. son
james gillis age 26. b. roehampton. occ. labourer. boarder(unm)
william wilton age 33. b. richmond,surrey. occ. house decorator. boarder(wid)
william wilton age 6. b. camberwell. nephew. boarder(not sure but think this is the nephew of the boarder and not ellen)
living at;3,the pla----?,putney
reg.dist;wandsworth

the strange thing is i have found a death for cornelius edwin temple in chelsea which is quiet near to where this family are in 1871
but this death occurred in 3rd qtr 1861
so if this is him who is the father of the 2 youngest children here
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:27 BST (UK)
 :-\ that is strange.

Is it possible that she remarried and lost a second husband within 10 years? But then i guess she wouldn't be listed as TEMPLE would she.

I thought this was a simple request now it's just opened another can of worms (that i will worry about another day)

Thanks ever so much Wozzle
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 15 July 10 14:31 BST (UK)
i can tell you that by 1881 ellen had married the lodger william wilton
1881
RG11/661/97/8
william wilton age 40. b. richmond. occ. painter. head
ellen age 51. b. roehampton. wife
james temple age 26. b. chelsea. occ. painter. stepson
charles temple age 17. b. wandsworth. occ. painter. stepson
william wilton age 16. b. camberwell. occ. painter. son
alice wilton age 13. b. kennington. daughter
oliver wilton age 11. b. putney. son
frederick wilton age 7. b. putney. son
charles mitchell age 13. b. putney. visitor
living at;9,cox's buildings,putney

so it looks as if possibly oliver was the son of william and ellen before they married
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 15 July 10 14:36 BST (UK)
if ever you want to try and solve the query
this cert would possibly help
hopefully it will give you fathers name
birth index
oliver temple
y.o.r. 1870
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; wandsworth
vol; 1d
page; 604
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Wozzle! That would be an interesting one to get - but i like your theory!

Goodnight!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:51 BST (UK)
Before i go ... there were actually two boys born after Cornelius died. In 1881 Oliver is listed as a WILTON age 11 but Charles is listed as a TEMPLE age 17! With a step brother age 16.

Can you find a birth index for Charles?
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Thursday 15 July 10 14:59 BST (UK)
Have actually found it myself!

It could be either of these 2

Births Jun 1864   
TEMPLE    Charles         Wandsworth    1d   441    

Births Sep 1864 
TEMPLE    Charles         Wandsworth    1d   445    
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 15 July 10 17:22 BST (UK)
here is the baptism of some of the children
name ;charles (no surname inserted)
date of baptism; 21st dec 1872
parents cornelius edwin/ellen temple
place of baptism; st.mary,putney
this entry is then scribbled out
then below that baptised on the same day and place
oliver temple
parents; ellen temple(single woman)
abode at time of baptism; putney

and below that another one
again same day and place
frederick temple
parents; ellen temple(single woman)
abode at time of baptism; putney

then on the opposite page with the same date and place
charles temple
parents; cornelius edwin/ellen temple
abode at time of baptism;putney
for fathers occ there is a ?
Title: COMPLETE - Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Wednesday 21 July 10 15:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your help Wozzle!
Title: Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Wednesday 21 July 10 15:48 BST (UK)
Sorry! (re moderator comment)
Title: COMPLETE - Re: Cornelius Edwin & Ellen TEMPLE - CENSUS
Post by: ronica on Wednesday 21 July 10 15:50 BST (UK)
This thread is now complete :)