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I thought it would be fun for all of us to share who our oldest known relative or ancestor was when they died.
Mine was my great-great-aunt Rose. She lived to be 100 years old! Although, my grandmother remembers hearing about a story about an ancestor, claiming that they lived to be 108 years old. But for now, Rose takes the cake!
Who was your oldest living relative?
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My oldest was my G/Grandmother who died aged 99yrs 9months. On the same line my
GG/Grandmother died aged 98yrs and my GGG/Grandmother 97yrs.
Joy :) :)
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Marion MOFFAT nee ROBERTSON 1812 - 1904. Died in Brunthil, Walls, Shetland aged 92.
http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/getperson.php?personID=I3422&tree=UKEire
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My grandmother had a cousin and an auntie who both lived until the age of 101, the auntie Annie Andrews 1862 - 1963 and the cousin Ann Elizabeth Andrews 1869 - 1970.
jericho :) :)
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Husbands Aunt is just 21/2 weeks away from her 100th Birthday and 3 weeks after that date she is due to Ring the school Bell at Her Primary schools 150th Jubilee Lets hope she makes it
Margaret
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My Great aunt Martha Daize born in 1888 and lived till she was 102
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My paternal grandmother died in 1982, aged 97. Well, that's what we thought, but I now know she was actually 98 - she'd "lost" a year, as she was born 3 months after her parents married.
Jan
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Don't have a proven centenarian, but my mother was 99years and 3 months, her older sister 98 years and 11 months. There are many of her relatives in the Cambridge area who have lived into their late 90s.
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My 5X great uncle lived to be 93--he was born in 1762 and died in 1855!
(Now when my father tells me he's past his sell by (at the age of 80) I point out that his ggg grandfather was 80 when he died in 1824, his gg grandfather was 83 when he died in 1854, and his grandfather was 92 when he died in 1968! With the wonders of modern medicine, my father could live to be 120!)
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My great grandma was 97 when she died and her brother and sister were about the same age when they passed away.
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My Great Gran was 102 when she died in 1986
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Not a relative, but a very dear old friend and neighbour died in 2004 aged (a very sprightly) 104. I found her the other day in the 1901 census aged just 10 months :)
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a cousin's paternal line ancestor died in an Infimary in St Marylebone aged 106.
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John Pearle, my earliest traced ancestor of the Pearle line, was born in 1541 and died in 1637 at the age of 96. He was born in the reign of Henry VIII shortly after the dissolution of the monasteries, and lived through the reigns of Edward VI, Mary Tudor, Elizabeth I, James I and died in the reign of Charles I.
At the time of John Pearle's birth Copernicus had just published 'On the Revolution of the Celestial Spheres' which for the first time put the sun at the centre of the universe. Shakespeare was born when John Pearle was 23 and died when he was 75; the Gunpowder Plot happened when John was in his 60s, and he narrowly missed the English Civil War, which started five years after his death.
With such momentous events, I often wonder how many he was aware of, being a Yeoman and Parish Officer in a quiet Suffolk village.
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My Grandmother was 100 yrs, 6 months and 1 day when she died. Her younger sister made 99 yrs 7 months, their older sister was only 84 !! Their Grandfather was 93, one of his daughters made it to 93.
Jude
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Hi...
My husbands great grandmother , Harriet Readyhough was born in 1859 , at Elland with Greetland, and died 1960 , aged 101......
She was as bright as a button. and was able to relate, with complete accuracy, events which happened in her childhood. My mother in law , died age 95, and could recall , breaking her arm, age three, with all the details, where , when , how, who by !!
Jim is 76 now...can recall cutting his finger age 1 , on a oxo tin , with all his grandparents present .
JeannieR
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My Uncle George was 100 years old in February this year..still at home looking after himself 8)
Carol
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My lovely Nan died 11th November 1997 age 93. Her sister, my great aunt, is still alive and well at the age of 91....she's marvellous and still got all her marbles ;D
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My Mum's Mum had 10 sisters. They all reached 100! :o Nan was the youngest to die at 98...
The next youngest died at 101. The oldest was 104.
There were 2 brothers. They died in their 70's. :-\
Mum is 90. Beats me at Scrabble... ;D
meles
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My 5xggrandfather, Charles Clark - his MI at Over Peover, Cheshire (always feel sorry that his wife Ann is mentioned as an afterthought!):
Sacred to the memory of CHARLES CLARK of Over Peover who departed this life July 5th in the year of Our Lord 1812 aged 103 years He had by his marriage with ANNE FODEN three sons and two daughters from who sprang numerous progeny viz:
RANDLE CLARK Children 11 Grandchildren 40
JOHN CLARK Children 10 Grandchildren 13
CHARLES CLARK Children 11 Grandchildren 6
SARAH BLACKSHAW Children 6 Grandchildren 11
ANNE BOWERS Children 4 Grandchildren 5
In all 122 descendants born before his death Reader if thou art a Labourer as this man was, think not thou has no duties to perform to thy family besides furnishing them with food and raiment. Thou art bounded to instill into them the principles of Religion to teach them to fear God, honour the king and to deal justly with men, and then thou have been young and now am old and yet saw I never the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging their bread Psalm 57 verse 26
Also ANNE wife of the above named CHARLES CLARK who departed this life October 13th 1798 aged 80 years
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Wow thats one hell of a 'tree' to get to grips with..
Xin
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Can't match that! And probably never will for direct descent, however i am embarking on a project set in rural east anglia where an entire village seems to be related to itself over a few generations. When I have more, will let you all know.
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One of my gg grandmother's was born in 1812 and died in 1913 just a few weeks off being 101 :)
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I have a second cousin who is 109 years and 139 days and still alive and counting.
Jebber
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My great great grandfather died at the age of 92 in 1932, having been born in 1839.
My great grandfather, who was very proud of his father's longevity, wrote the following about him:
"My father was a great worker all his days and started work at the age of 6 years [1845] on a farm near Canterbury, Kent, his first job being to thin turnips out and keeping birds off the corn and he has told me the tale of his having rode a large pig with him to the fields, where the pig would feed at the sides of the fields all day and then he would ride it back to the farm at night and the men employed on the farm would line up to see him pass on his mount.
As he grew older he was very fond of horses and was waggoner for a number of years and it grieve him in later years to see moto cars instead of horses. He rode a tricycle till the age of 80 and frequently he would ride from Maidstone to Birchington to see his brother Tom, who died 1915 at the age of 85, and was buried in Birchington Churchyard.
On 22nd January 1932 I went to Maidstone by coach from New X Gate as my sister Emily had wrote to tell me my Father aged 92 and 6 months was seriously ill and on arriving at 27 Bower Place I found the Father unconscious but during the afternoon he recovered for a short time and recognized me and took my hand and drew me towards himself and kiss me good bye, as he could not speak, and afterwards wave his hands meaning good bye all.
He then gradually sunk and passed away at 11.50pm 23rd January 1932."
I have always been very moved by the thought of this venerable old man waving goodbye all.
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My Greatx8 Grandfather apparently lived until he was 98 years old.
James Lascelles (1695-1793). This is according to the account of his great granddaughter Helen, so no documentary proof:
"He lived to well over ninety. My own mother could mind on him as a kind and gentle old man with a long white flowing beard. He was very fond of my mother, who was about five when he died. He must have been sad to live so long: for he saw the death of my mother’s father living in the house with him, and that of his only surviving grandson, William Lascelles, and his seven adult children. His other grandson, David Lascelles, was a valet to Charles Fraser of Inverallochy: both were killed in the battle of Culloden Moor"
His age is recorded again by Helen's granddaughter who records seeing his grave stone stating that he was 98.
I still have to find any proof of David Lascelles existance, let alone his involvement on Culloden.
James is my oldest direct ancestor.
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I have always been very moved by the thought of this venerable old man waving goodbye all.
I was too, Igor.
I have still to find any proof of David Lascelles existance, let alone his involvement on Culloden
According to the information I have, the Frasers were in the first line, to the right of Charles Edward Stewart in the final battle. Have you tried contacting the Clan society? Or even some of the other societies of the clans who were there. Between them, they're likely to hold much of the information you need. If you PM me with your email, I may have an image you may be interested in which may help.
Ann
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I believe that those in our parents' generation had it best for longevity, provided they survived childhood in the early 20th century they then had access to decent health care after 1947 (NHS), and were exposed to less pollution than subsequent generations. We have superior health care, but what horros are we building up for the future?
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uhm not sure about less pollution, I remember waking up to SMOG many a time..
The fact they survived longer I think is just down to sheer 'doggedness' TOO much mamby pambying today, go to the docs with a splinter and expect it seen to.. In those days, ignore it and it went away.
I always say if you live with sickness you become sick.... GET on and do is my motto.
These days if you sneeze its the 'flu' and if you have a headache its definately cancer..
;D ;)
xin
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Grant you smog specially in the big cities, but less general pollution I would think, less acid rain etc.
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yes give you that so it is the '''''unseen''''' rubbish -- but remember the snuff takers -- the dirty water -- the smokers ... the total lack of hygiene as we know it today.. the milk in a bucket and even when it was about to turn we still had to drink it..
Mind you I reckon it is down to rationing and the lack of good food that is responsible for some of todays problems.
National dried milk and Cod liver oil... Malt and a teaspoon of Scotts emulsion........ Blimey...
xin
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Looks like all going well i've got a few years left. :D On both of my parents side there have been many who have reach the 90's the longest being 99years
Thomas Murdy
b. 1879 Heatherytops. Nothumberland
d. 1979 unsure the location
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My oldest ancestor = John Upton who lived in Desford and died in 1811 at the alleged age of 102. His is the only age written into the burial index so it must have been out of the ordinary!
He was commemorated in various Victorian texts:
"He was a framework knitter, in the coarse worsted branch, and at the time of his decease had worked for one manufacturing company in Leicester, Moore and Co, during the unparalleled long period of ninety three years, having his commenced his monotonous unremunerative drudgery whilst he was yet in his eighth year"
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The milkman we were allotted in WW2 was so filthy he gloried in the nickname "Acky". He also had an unfortunate habit of "accidentally" upsetting his cans when the health inspector was around, and was prosecuted at least once for watering it. It is a good thing that we always boiled the milk before we used any of it else I should probably have succumbed years ago.
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It wasnt my gt. Uncle was it he was a Milkman... ( ;D ;D)
Yes It sure takes you back when you remember how we used to spit on things to clean them, and use soot to clean our teeth... No telling how we survived... Do you remember shelling peas and watching the grubs boil in the water... eeee...kkk
should start a new post / on the habits we survived by??
xin
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eeekkk if shelling peas makes you old
i was only shelling pease on Monday with my 8 year old daughter also pick some strawberries
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bet you didnt boil the grubs though ;) ;D ;D ;D
how many peas went in the pot and how many in your mouth?
;)
xin
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ssshhhhh
only a couple honest with some extra protein :o :-X
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well that may mean you will live to a ripe old age??? :)
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An ancestor died in 1842 aged 102. Elizabeth Packard nee Martin. She wed in 1763 to Joseph Packard. Although we have not been able to find her correct baptism yet. She was quite well documented when she died and was very respected. Someone has her born in 1744.
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Husbands Aunt is just 21/2 weeks away from her 100th Birthday and 3 weeks after that date she is due to Ring the school Bell at Her Primary schools 150th Jubilee Lets hope she makes it
Margaret, that's lovely, Please come back and tell us when she makes it!
For me, I'm not aware of anyone in any of my family lines that have made it to their century, but in the last couple of generations the ladies are making it into their 90s. My mother died last year in her 95th year, my grandmother was 91, and her sister, my beloved and much missed Great Aunt Alice, made it to 96.
Personally I don't expect to emulate any of them - I've seen my pension forecast!
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Scraping the mould off cheese was done as a matter of course. Believe many small grocers used to do this as a matter of course. It is a wonder we survived, or perhaps we are now often excessively hygenic?
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This weekend we celebrated Aunts 100th Birthday and there was a card from Queen a lovely time But unfortunately he memory wasnt as good faces she thought familiar but names no
imagine all the changes that have taken place during her lifetime
Margaret
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Congratulations to your g aunt, what a lovely photo :) :)
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Many congratulations to her, she looks in fine fettle! :D
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Margaret, what a lovely picture. I hope she had a wonderful day.
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Scraping the mould off cheese was done as a matter of course. Believe many small grocers used to do this as a matter of course. It is a wonder we survived, or perhaps we are now often excessively hygenic?
I still scrape the mould off the cheese, I thought everybody did?! Don't tell me, nobody wants me to bring the sandwiches now..
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Yes Maggie she had a lovely day
and the rest of us had a lovely weekend Cousins came over from Australia and we are now asking Whens the next reunion!
Margaret
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Doesn't bother me Maggie.We have become obsessional about these things.
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Hello there,
I thought I would add my own family members. One, my ancestor, was called Ann, and she married George Wakefield. Although no marriage or baptism has been found, she died in 1844 aged 102! I'd love to find out more, but I'm currently unable too!
Another one I have just discovered recently, and I am still trying to prove this one; my ancestor, Isabellla Burnside POSSIBLY died in 1817 ... aged 104.
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A very high proportion of my mother's relatives live into their 90s, usually the high 90,s but to my knowledge no one has yet reached 100.
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The oldest in my entire tree was a half cousin of my great grandfather who died aged 101 in 1995.
His half-uncle died aged 99 in 1991.
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My grandmother made 95. she went downhill when shehad an inside toilet put in!
Lots in late 80s, 4 x great grandfather died in 1838 age 87 (so a death certificate for someone born in 1751)
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One of my greatx4 grandfathers got a mention in the local paper on his death in 1925 for making it to the age of 92.
Everything else, including his death certificate, suggests he was just 87 years old so goodness knows how that came about.
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Confirmed by Birth/Death Certificates, my grandmother was 93 old, her sister 102 old, and their mother 97 old.
I hope I've got some of their genes ;D
Les
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Scraping the mould off cheese was done as a matter of course. Believe many small grocers used to do this as a matter of course. It is a wonder we survived, or perhaps we are now often excessively hygenic?
I still scrape the mould off the cheese, I thought everybody did?! Don't tell me, nobody wants me to bring the sandwiches now..
My understanding has always been that for anything that forms mould on the surface (cheese, jam etc) it's perfectly ok to remove the mould and eat the rest
I'll eat your sandwiches Maggie :D
Linda
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I have only researched one person who made it to his centenary. He was born on 10 March 1821 and died on 27 Mar 1922 at 101.
My husband's great grandmother was still alive when we got married. She lived to 96. It was such a shame that she was not well enough to make the journey for the wedding, but one of her daughters took my bouquet down for her. So at least she had something more than a bit of cake. :)
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My grandmother, 20 Mar 1897 - 28 Dec 1998 = 101
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104 for me, though she was a very distant relative and I can't remember what her name was...
I'm also distantly related to the Queen Mother, who died at 101.
The closest to 100 I get with a vaguely close relative was my grandfather's sister who died at 99, having been one of the first women to qualify as a medical doctor in Ireland (Queen's University Belfast).
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my grandmother was the oldest at 96
OH's grandmother 105 and counting :)
Elaine
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my mom margaret johnson was born in 1902 and lived to be 94 years old she flew for the first time when she was 90 and enjoyed it so much flew again at 91.
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my mom margaret johnson was born in 1902 and lived to be 94 years old she flew for the first time when she was 90 and enjoyed it so much flew again at 91.
Connected to Amy Johnson by any chance?
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Hello all,if i count my wifes family,her grand father was just six months short of his 102nd. birthday while her great grandfather,was 107 whenhe died.Not a bad record.
Regards Diarmuid.
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my mom margaret johnson was born in 1902 and lived to be 94 years old she flew for the first time when she was 90 and enjoyed it so much flew again at 91.
Connected to Amy Johnson by any chance?
not to my knowledge her maiden name was margaret jane fraser moore. and there are no amy's on my fathers line .
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Frederick Thomas McMullin born 20 Nov 1891 died 17 Jul 1995 103years 8 months he attended Rugby matches until 102 and did crossword puzzles until his death and boy you should have seen his garden he tended three gardens until well into his 90s great and much missed Grand father in law :)
John BENNETT baptised 7 Sep 1760 buried 25 Jan 1862 101 yars 4 months
Trees
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Having said earlier that I haven't any branches with real longevity with the ladies of the last 2 generations making it into their 90s as the best it gets, I've since been really impressed to have discovered my 6xgreat grandfather, Richard Woodburn.
Richard was born c. 1718 and baptised in the village church in Overton in December that year. He was buried in the churchyard of the same church on 12 August 1809, making him definitely over 90 and as the burial record lists him as 93, he may have been born as early as 1716.
Not bad for a working man in an isolated area of Lancashire in the 18th century.
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One of my ancestors called Anne Elvidge was born about 1704 (no baptism unfortunately), but she married in 1736 with age 33 recorded. She died on 11 Jan 1800, age 95 according to the parish register - though she was simply referred to as Widow Fricknall. When I first found it I was pleased that she made it to see the first few days of a new century!
Others include my Nan's cousin "Nin" who died in 2004 age 101 years 5 months. I also have a great great aunt who is 99 and still going strong.
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I'm still trying to confirm a connection with this guy but it sure is interesting. :o
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ssshhhhh
only a couple honest with some extra protein :o :-X
I remember doing that as well, I aiso remember having to go to the pawnshop on a friday so we had enough money for fod over the weekend, my Fathe was on the meanstest because of war injuries
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William Mead 1504-1652 aged 148. Hope it was true, but I have 2 observations: 1) It is well known that through old age people tend to advance their ages more rapidly than the calendar specially when they didn't know their age precisely in the first place. 2) Is this a case of 2 generations getting merged into one?
It would be amazing though if it could be proved true!
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I have three Manx ancestors who reached their nineties:-
Elizabeth Mylchreest, age 97, died 1845
Elizabeth Mylchreest, age 94, died 1907
Esther Mylchreest, age 91, died 1930
C
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I worked out Williams DOB as 3 January 1504.
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Long liverd though William almost certainly was, he did not achieve the ultimate and live in three centuries, as very few have. The WW1 veterans who died in the last few years had achieved this milestone with their lives from the late 1890s to 2000+. Those of us who have lived in two centuries are 10 a penny, even 2 of my great nephews have done this born in the last decade of the 20th century. My grand daughter will have longer to wait, she was born in 2007!
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They do say the oldest known person to have lived is 122 but that is nothing compared to other claims. William Mead is an example and in 2000 a woman in Africa was alleged to have been 150 years old and the oldest person in the world.
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The French lady who lived to be 122 is the oldest person whose life is properly documented by birth and death certificates. I remember around 40 years ago there was a case in the Muslim part of the then Soviet Union where a couple had been married 100 years. The mind boggles!!
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I would not be surprised if there was one or even a few people who have lived beyond 122, perhaps decades beyond.
There probably has been someone who has lived past 122.
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No doubt it will be surpassed in the next decade. They say we're lving too long anyway, a few more long lived centenarians won't help the pension deficit!
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In 2004 a woman from Belarus claimed to be 166 born in May 1888. In the newspaper was a copy of her passport pic which expires in 2038 when she is 150.
I reckon somewhere someone has lived beyond 130 but it never became public knowledge.