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Title: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: clovis on Monday 12 July 10 16:19 BST (UK)
hi, trying to find out what happened to my g-grandmother mary schofield - she had my grandmother adopted and returned to nursing.  A distant family member has given me a newspaper photo of her in uniform with the caption that she was joining King Edward VII hospital windsor as a matron.  Unfortunately the photo was clipped out and the relative doesn't know what paper it was in or the date.  Mary was born in 1875 and is middleaged (50ish?) in the picture. The Reading records office is meant to hold staff records for this hospital and I would be eternally grateful if anyone is doing their own search of the records, if they let me know whether there is any info on her.
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: judy peake on Thursday 07 November 19 20:14 GMT (UK)
I know she retired in 1953 ish. She was a kindly and intelligent person, in my opinion. Motherly. Am sad to hear she gave up her daughter (or had to) for adoption. Judy

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Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: judy peake on Monday 11 November 19 03:08 GMT (UK)
The matron at King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor, was a Mabel Schofield, not a Mary.
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 11 November 19 11:14 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat judy peake

'clovis' has not been on here since 2010 but they may still have the same email and get notified of your reply. 

Their Mary was apparently born in 1875, the Mabel Schofield that you mention appears to have been born in 1895 and was in Windsor on the prewar register
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: judy peake on Monday 11 November 19 20:19 GMT (UK)
Yes, I realized that the birth dates did not " compute", but I also, thought her message was more recent. Hopefully she'll see it sometime!
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Monday 11 November 19 21:36 GMT (UK)
Miss Schofield was matron of King Edward VII Hospital when my mother trained there in the second half of the 1930's. I have a super photograph of her. When I find it, I will post it.
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 12 November 19 08:33 GMT (UK)
Herewith photo of 'Miss' Schofield. She was known as 'Miss', as Matron of King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor. My mother liked her much. She attended the annual re-unions of former nurses.

One anecdote was that the trainee nurses didn't like the food. A deputation of nurses took their complaint to Matron. Matron said 'the food is good', to which the leader, one Vinicombe, a Blackshirt (Mosley) replied 'Matron, good fish doesn't stink'.

Won't let me post pic.   
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 12 November 19 08:40 GMT (UK)
If she were born in 1875 and retired around 1953, that would have made her almost 80.  Is that possible for nurses in the 1950's?
Think original poster has some slightly wrong information.
Extremely unlikely that there was a Mary Schofield born 1875 and a Mable Schofield 1895, both matrons at the same hospital, (almost) simultaneously.
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 12 November 19 10:37 GMT (UK)
Quite right Chempat. My mother trained something like 1935 to 1940. Re-unions would have been post war. I remember my mother talking of her with affection in the 1950's.

There was only one Matron per hospital, don't know the rule now. Very powerful people.

I might do a search for Matron Schofield's life.

Would some kind person tell me why I can't post the photo of Matron Schofield. 

 

 
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 12 November 19 10:40 GMT (UK)
The right Miss Schofield who was Matron ie Mabel is doing that job at the right hospital on the pre war register, she was born 1895 as I mentioned earlier.  I can't see a Mary that would fit the 1875 one

ADDED
There is a post a few years ago about her here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=439520.

Mary Annora Schofield was my great grandmother.  In 1915 she is in Bath but then I lose sight of her in the records.  The family story is that by the late 1920s she was employed as a nurse in Cheltenham as we think that my grandmother, who had been given up for adoption, went there in 1930 to see her.

Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 12 November 19 11:04 GMT (UK)
Yes Rosie the 1895 Mabel should be right. Matron was alive 1950's. My mother still knew her, through the re-unions.

I remember ex nurse Vinicombe, she visited us once at Wexham, so before 1958. Tall, slim and very impressive. Must have been in her 40's by then.
 
Again, why can't I post the photo?
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 12 November 19 12:24 GMT (UK)
You can't post a photo because it is on a 'look up' board - Berkshire lookup requests  :)
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 12 November 19 12:32 GMT (UK)
Ah! Thanks, Rosie. I'll get round that.
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 12 November 19 13:10 GMT (UK)
This is the Mary A Schofield, 1875, after marrying Joseph Tompkins
Deaths December quarter 1961  Mary A Tompkins  age 86  in Bedford
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 12 November 19 13:40 GMT (UK)
She could not be the Matron, Chempat. An 1895 Mabel has to be the one. I have looked and there are several of them. She was Matron in the 1930's and 1940's.   
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: candrjm on Tuesday 12 November 19 15:53 GMT (UK)
The Mabel Schofield recorded on the 1939 register in Windsor is recorded as Mabel A Schofield and has a birth date of 19th Aug 1895.
There is this baptism with that birth date (but parents are Julia and Horace):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L96P-67KW?i=550
Marriage:

Marriages Sep 1894
Metcalfe    Julia         Pontefract    9c   167    
Schofield    Horace         Pontefract    9c   167




Working back from this posting on the other thread:
Hi,
Do  you know her Birth & Death date?. There is a Mary Schofield who died Bath 1962 aged 91. Maybe you know this but just in case.
Jim
Cheltenham


this looks to be the probate for this Mary in 1962:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=schofield&yearOfDeath=1962&page=5#calendar

Probate to Percy Gordon Schofield


Possible birth:
SCHOFIELD, PERCY  GORDON      MMN BENCE     
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in READING  Volume 02C  Page 362

possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1898 
BENCE    Mary        Chippenham    5a   121   
Schofield    Frank Arthur         Chippenham    5a   121   

Possible census for Mary & Percy in 1911:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTG-T4P

Possibly Frank and Mary in 1901 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJC-6Z9

Possibly Frank in 1911 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQD-7TK


Possible Mary Bence in 1891 census (working as a Nurse):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3PC7-LZM

Possible Mary Bence in 1881 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q278-VYM5


But no birth for a Mabel Bence or a Mabel Schofield found that would fit with birth 19/08/1895
Title: Re: mary schofield, matron at King Edward VII Hospital
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 12 November 19 16:45 GMT (UK)
Mary Annora Schofield, 1875, appears to have had 3 illegitimate children, according to some trees on Ancestry, before marrying Mr Tompkins. clovis was perhaps only aware of one, her grandmother. She is a nurse in certain censuses etc

Also, clovis might have found all this out since 2010, and worked out that she had been given the wrong information about her becoming a matron in Windsor.
Title: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 13 November 19 08:00 GMT (UK)
Moderator comment: this post refers to the photo here

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=821393.0


What a lovely photo  ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: Regorian on Wednesday 13 November 19 08:16 GMT (UK)
Yes Rosie. I wonder what the medals were.
Title: Re: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: Regorian on Wednesday 13 November 19 11:17 GMT (UK)
Been trying to find a reference to her on the internet but without success.

Best I could find is this. The Site is interesting and includes a photo of the trained nurses badge. I still have my mother's. My mother told me it was embarrassing as patients thought it was the Victoria Cross!

It mentions Princess Christian Maternity Home. I was born there. It was all private then, prior to 1948.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/theroyalwindsorforum/king-edward-vii-hospital-t1380.html.   
Title: Re: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 13 November 19 12:03 GMT (UK)
I have not found anything about her either.  Some interesting photo's on your link, thank you.  I have driven past it many times  :)
Title: Re: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: Regorian on Wednesday 13 November 19 12:42 GMT (UK)
Tried to photograph my mothers badge, but no good, dismal morning and camera batteries may be low.
Title: Re: Mabel Schofield, Matron, King Edward VII Hospital, Windsor
Post by: Regorian on Wednesday 13 November 19 13:54 GMT (UK)
There is a photograph (in the Slough Observer) of HM Queen Elizabeth II outside the Nurses Home 2nd April, 1959.

My mother did go back to the hospital for a while. Why she'd got this photo? In those days nurses wore coloured belts. My mother had one of her own, although trained, pre SRN.