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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: DEVANS71 on Thursday 08 July 10 16:37 BST (UK)
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New to this board so not sure if I am doing this right but wanted to see if anyone can help, I'm tring to find info about my grandmother and her parents/family, but have limited info. This is what I know.
Elizabeth Ann Reed born in 1909 (died in 1973) parents Thomas James Reed and Ann Lewis. She married: Richard J Symonds in 1934; on marriage licence name was Mary Elizabeth Reed parents Ann and father Llewellyn Williams. My grandparents ran the greengrocers in Pontadawe.
My great grandmother (Ann) remarried Llewellyn Williams at some point and there were 3 other children, Hannah (who died young of TB) a son Islwyn and another daughter. I believe they lived in Pisinngwyn (sp?) a cottage on the Gwyrd. My great grandmother was buried at Llanguicke Parish Church in 1941.
Sorry very limited info; I've looked at lots of online sources and nothing is coming up for anyone in census or birth/death/marriage records. Except my grandmother's death record in 1973 (which I have). I'm also limited to location - as I'm living in Canada so have to resort to online sources.
Thank you I much appreciate any assistance anyone can give me. Deborah
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New to this board so not sure if I am doing this right but wanted to see if anyone can help, I'm tring to find info about my grandmother and her parents/family, but have limited info. This is what I know.
Elizabeth Ann Reed born in 1909 (died in 1973) parents Thomas James Reed and Ann Lewis. She married: Richard J Symonds in 1934; on marriage licence name was Mary Elizabeth Reed parents Ann and father Llewellyn Williams.
Hello and welcome to RootsChat
Sorry I have to ask more questions??
Why is she named Mary Elizabeth Williams on marriage -also UK marriage cert would not give mother's name -only father's name and occupation???
Suz
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Ask as many questions as you like. I'm grasping at straws now and I desparately want to find out more about my grandmother's family. I have loads about my grandfather's side (the Symonds).
If you are asking why the names was changed from birth certificate to marriage licence, we have no idea why. This was not discovered until after my grandmother passed away and we found the marriage licence in her belongings; and there is nobody in the family to ask.
You are absolutely correct it does not have her mother's name on marriage certificate - only father, who is a different to the name on birth certificate. It is listed as Lllewellyn Williams, occupation labourer. Birth certificate says Thomas James Reed.
It is all a puzzle that I'd like to try and unravel. I just thought it would be WAY easier!
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could you give registration qtr and district for Richard J Symonds marriage -I can't find it
Also did your Grandmother die as Mary Elizabeth Symonsds or Elizabeth Ann Symonds?
Suz
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Hi Suz,
Death certificate says Mary Elizabeth Symonds, otherwise Elizabeth Ann Symonds. Registered 2 March 1973.
Marriage certificate to my grandfather Richard John Symonds: October 1934, in Bodenham, Hereford. Interestesting, I didn't know that until you asked and I looked. I always thought they were married in Pontadawe.
Deborah
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That's where Ann remarried:
Marriage
WILLIAMS Llewellyn
REED Ann
Pontardawe 11a 1329
March quarter 1925
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The first marriage:
Marriage
REED Thomas James
LEWIS Ann
Swansea 11a 1826
Dec quarter 1908
You should find the family together in 1911 but you will have to search that yourself.
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Had located marriage and found Ann and Thomas on 1911 Census (unable to disclose census details).
Unfortunately, place of birth is general, not specific, for Ann and Lewis is a common name. The marriage cert will help, hopefully including father's details.
regards
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Same here - and Thomas is easily found in 1901 once you know where to look!
;D
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Okay I'm amazed. I can't find anything. I don't even know what I'm doing wrong when I look. I'm using the 1911 census online site and ancestry.co.uk. Is there a better resource I should use?
Seriously, I cannot begin to say how appreciative I am. I know nothing about my grandmother or her family before her and really want to know more. I visit a grave once a year when in Wales but that's it.
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Hello again - thanks for the PM
I hope you will find this guidance helpful when searching 1911 - sorry we can't do it for you!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355239.new
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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DEVANS71,
Will be in Swansea Archives tomorrow. If Ann and Thomas married in Church I should be able to find a copy of the marriage entry.
regards
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The farm on the Gwrhyd mountain is called Pistyll Gwyn. It's mentioned a few times in Joshua Lewis' book, "A History of Y Gwrhyd". An index of the translated version is shown at:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangiwg/Gwrhyd.html