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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: crayspond on Thursday 08 July 10 12:51 BST (UK)
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Hi to everyone,
Does anyone have or know how to obtain a copy of this book?
The full title is
The Story of the Beveridge families of England and Scotland (1923) by Sydney A Beveridge.
Regards
Ailsa
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Hi Ailsa, your local library should be able to help - you can probably borrow it on inter-library loan. I've seen on google that several large libraries have it. if it is out of print it might be more difficult but not impossible.
to buy, there are many secondhand book shops that deal in out of print works. I've looked at a few by googling - but try your local one (yellow pages)
Diddy (ex-Librarian!!)
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Hi Diddy,
I have sourced it to my nearest Library which is the Oxford Bodl - i have emailed them and i am awaiting their reply.
My local library is not confident as they think i will have to go to Oxford to see it.
I live in South Oxfordshire although i am originally from Glasgow. I seem to be from a branch of the Beveridges that does not connect with any one else! Furthest back is John Beveridge married to Janet Bell 30.12.1715 in Inverkeithing . I can trace him from then on but before that is difficult.
I thought that the book might be a help.
Ailsa
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Hi Aisla, I have a couple of Beveridge connections myself through marriage!
I hope you get sight of the book somewhere anyway.
Good luck,
Diddy
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Have found a Janet Beveridge ?c1773 married to a George Rodger in my tree from Fife..
Any connection
Danishdots
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Hi Danishdots,
Thanks for the interest - Below is my family Beveridge round about the same time as your Janet Beveridge
John Beveridge 25.02.1750 (assume died)
Andrew Beveridge 16.11.1752 in Dunfermline
Barbara Beveridge 15.02.1755
Jean Beveridge 18.04.1758 (Jean christened 19.04.1758 at Dunfermline Associate session)
John Beveridge Jnr 26.05.1763 (assumed died)
John Beveridge 24.01.1765 my line(John christened 27.01.1765 at Dunfermline Associate session)
Margaret Beveridge 07.10.1766 (Margaret christened 14.10.1766 at Dunfermline Associate session)
George Beveridge 15.03.1772
I don't know of any more children - but she could be a relation somewhere along the line!!
Regards
Ailsa
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Thanks Ailsa - I'll keep those names in mind if I come across a connection to Janet and get back to you. I'm still trying to verify that she is actually a relation.
Good wishes with your search
Danishdots
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The book is available in libraries. I went to the State library in Victoria, Australia to borrow it. Unfortunately it was only available to read in the reading room as it is an old book, written in 1923. what i found, as far as my Beveridge ancestry goes, was that the author relied heavily on hearsay. He interviewed one person for the history of my Beveridge ancestors and all of the information was incorrect. Don't know about the rest of the book, but I'd rather do genuine research and then know the information was right.
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A lot of Scots from Fife and elsewhere in the east of Scotland emigrated to Scandinavia in the 1500s and 1600s. A Hans Belfrage (old spelling of Beveridge) born in 1614 in Kirkcaldy was ennobled in Sweden in 1666 by King Karl XI and has many descendants. Their details are preserved in the Riddarhuset - House of Nobility - in Stockholm. You can read about them here - the first part of the text is in Swedish but then there's an English translation.
https://belfrageska.wordpress.com/slakten-belfrages-historia/
I lived in Linkφping, Sweden, for two years and our local aristocrat was a Count Douglas, of Scottish descent.
Harry
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The Beveridge name is a pretty common one in Scotland. Some may have been noble and wealthy.My line came from Dalgety Crossgates Fifeshire. They were coal miners, as wer their ancestors. The history of coal mining is not pretty. Coal miners and their families (wives and children) were OWNED by the coal mine which resulted in them being called mining serfs. Up until the end of the 18th century when the mining serfs were set free. But the coal mine owners, (Aristocrats) still didn't allow them to leave as they said they owed money for the food and housing that had been provided. Any mining serfs that escaped were brought back, beaten and put back to work in the mines. the whole family, husband, wife and children had to work in terrible conditions. I would like to seek out the owners of these mines and know who their descendants are. My ancestors, John and Margaret Beveridge and their 5 young children left Scotland in 1868 and went to Australia where they lived in Bendigo. John and his sons worked in the deep gold mines there.
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I was at Edinburgh University from 1964 to 1968 and knew a chap called Beveridge from Kirkcaldy who was my age. There's a Beveridge Park in Kirkcaldy.
I had ancestors in the Methilhill area, near Kirkcaldy, who were miners in the early 1700s and are mentioned in the Rothes Papers. Yes, they were serfs and could be loaned out by their master to another mine-owner.
The fisherfolk were hardly any better off. The original fishermen in the village of Auchmithie in Angus were called Cargill, and when they accepted an offer from the town council of neighbouring Arbroath to go and fish there, their feudal superior the Earl of Northesk came after them and locked them up in his dungeon for their cheek.
Harry
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Interesting replies - I did eventually see the book and wasn't that impressed to be honest. Maybe because I couldn't find anything connecting to my branch 🙂
My branch were weavers and originated in Inverkeithing then Dunfermline then Glasgow. My ggfather went to the US and had another family. I have contacted them and they were fascinated to learn of the history and were unaware of his son who was left behind.
I managed to get back to 1715 in Fife with verified documents but before then is guesswork - I even went to a local lds church to look at microfilm but without luck I've given up. I would say the name was more common in Fife but people move around now so it pops up everywhere! The Swedish story was very interesting - my John Beveridge is actually spelled John Belfrage in 1715. I've just ordered a DNA testing kit so who knows maybe Sweden will pop up.
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Here's something about Beveridge Park in Kirkcaldy. Apparently it was gifted to the people of the town in 1892 by local industrialist Michael Beveridge.
https://www.mypark.scot/parks/beveridge-park-kirkcaldy/
Harry
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There was a large linen damask weaving factory at the south end of Dunfermline, the St. Leonard's Works of Erskine Beveridge & Co, started in 1851. It has now gone, but the elegant office block remains, converted into flats. The founder, Erskine Beveridge, a local celebrity, was a photographer and an antiquary in his spare time; there's a book about him by Hugh Walker, but I haven't seen it.
Older local people (such as my grandfather, born 1875) always pronounced the name as "Berritch" but I suppose that has died out now.
The life of coal miners in Scotland, as described by joybev, seems to be little known to most people.
They'll know all about the battle of Bannockburn and Mary Q of S and B P Charlie, but the fact that many Scotsmen and their families were physically owned by other Scotsmen (slaves in all but name) until 1799, when we'd all been singing 'Britons never never never...' etc for fifty years, seems to have been discreetly forgotten.
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Erskine Beveridge owned a lot of property on North Uist, Vallay, Scolpaig, Griminish, Balelone & Kilpheder including Vallay House (huge) which he had built although I'm unsure about the other properties.
Lots of online info. & interesting reading too.
Annie
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I'd forgotten about Erskine Beveridge. He wrote "The Churchyard Memorials of Crail" (I'm quoting the title from memory) which is a fascinating study of a very old and interesting churchyard and its headstones.
The name Beveridge was sometimes written Berridge, reflecting local pronunciation.
Harry
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Hi to everyone,
Does anyone have or know how to obtain a copy of this book?
The full title is
The Story of the Beveridge families of England and Scotland (1923) by Sydney A Beveridge.
Regards
Ailsa
I realise that this response is a little bit late.... By like a while, but for anyone else looking, the book is available through the national Australian archives. https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/547672