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William Jones, born (around) 1834 in Great Boughton, Flintshire was a plasterer and builder in Liverpool in the late 1800's.
He is my great, great grandfather.
He went into partnership with his son in law, Andrew Fleming Bancroft (born 1859, Manchester) building and brick making. I have a bancrupcy notice which says their business was the Borough Road Brickworks. They were declared insolvent in December 1899 and managed to recover from this in 1903. William and Andrew F show up on all the census returns, including 1901 and 1911, except 1891. I just cannot find them at all.
William was married to Elizabeth (Edwards) b. 1829 and the 1881 census shows him living at 8 Marmion Road as head of the family. also listed on this census are two daughters, Mary Laura and Sarah Edith. He is listed as a plaster and builder.
The 1901 census shows him living with Andrew Fleming Bancroft at 3 Kingsland Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead. This is the same address shown in the London Gazette in 1899- 1903 when reporting the bancrupcy proceedings.
The 1911 census shows Andrew & Family living at 1 Oxford Drive, Waterloo, West Derby. Andrew Fleming Bancroft is now listed as an estate agent.
Please can someone help me to find them on the 1891 census. I would also like any information at all on the Borough Road Brickworks, Birkenhead.
Thanks.
S.
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Hi,
They are both at 21, Victoria Mount, Oxton, Birkenhead in 1891.
RG12/2892 57/49
If you need a transcription just ask.
Best wishes
Cathy
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Absolutely fantastic! A transcript would be brilliant. I don't know how you did it; I've been looking for ages.
Thanks.
Sheila
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Hi,
Doesn t seem to be on A******,
William Jones head mar 56 Builder Boughton, Flints.
Elizabeth " wife mar 58 Holywell, Whitford.
Sarah E " dau s 24 Liverpool, Lancs.
Andrew F Bancroft son in law mar 29 Estate Agent and Builder Manchester, Lancs.
Mary L " dau mar 26 Liverpool, Lancs
Albert T F " grandson 1mo Birkenhead, Cheshire.
Cathy :)
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Cheers!
Any knowledge on the brickworks or how I can get info?
S.
xx
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Hi,
Sorry no info about brickworks, hope you find something.
Best wishes
Cathy :)
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Thanks Cathy, maybe I shoud start a new thread just about the brickworks..
S.
:)
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Just seen this great site, and this thread. ANDREW FLEMING BANCROFT is my great grandfather's brother.
And I confirm that he did move to Birkenhead, originally as an estate agent, and then helped in this business of brick manufacture and building. I don't know exactly when he moved or why, but I know he lodged. His name is somewhat original. He was born in 1859, (not 1862) and was first a solicitors clerk, when he was about 22 years old. Born in manchester, with two sisters, Ann (1851)and Mary(1856), a brother George(1865), and my Great Great Grandfather, Samuel. (1853) I appreciate the details of his marriage, as I have up to now concentrated on my GGF. and GF. who all (apart from A.F) stayed in Manchester. 'Samuel' and 'Andrew' seem to be a consistency in my ancestors. My Grandfather is Arthur Andrew Fleming Bancroft. My father is Arthur Bancroft. And I am Andrew Bancroft (1956)
Andrew Bancroft
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Hello andrew_banco,
I have just read the information you posted. Andrew Fleming Bancroft was also my Great Grandfather. My Grandfather was Gordon (1894) and my father was Stanley Leonard Gordon Bancoft. I was born in 1945.
I also have a first cousin, Michael, and although we live in seperate parts of the UK, we are pooling our researches. We would love to be in contact with you and share information.
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many thanks for your reply. I'm pleased to make contact and would hope to share information with you. This has been a long journey for me and originally I just wanted to find out why andrew fleming bancroft left cheshire and went to Birkenhead. This has now opened up such a lot of other information. I have slowly pieced together your tree, and I 've been following Andrew's business progress, the brickworks and the bankruptcy. I have got back much further with his brother Samuel Bancroft, (my GGF), his wife and children. As I have photographs of Samuel and his children, as a rare group, including mother-in-law Sarah Lovelock, I am trying to discover where Andrew Fleming was buried. I believe it may be 1911 and probably West Derby. (Sarah Lovelock would be our GGGM marrying George in 1845 in Stockport).
I used to live in Stockport for years, little knowing that their marriage was at a chapel I knew within walking distance! So quite simply at this stage, I want to find out where Andrew Fleming Bancroft is buried, and ,maybe what he looked like. ! I imagine the brothers had a resemblance. If he has a gravestone I would also like to take a photograph with your families permission.
Will you please 'send me a message' on Rootweb, then it will link to us. Also my email is * if that is easier. I would very much like to find out more about my namesake Andrew Fleming B, and look forward to hearing from you.
Andrew Bancroft. ( I guess this make us cousins' removed several times!)
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Thanks for your very quick reply. Fantastic news. The fact that you have photographs of Samuel and Sarah Lovelock is just amazing.
As regards contact, I am new to Roots and havn't worked out what RootWeb is yet so am replying as before. Email is easy in many respects as we can attach whatever documents or photos we like. At present my other cousin and I use the non audio version of Skype. We could set up a three way chat room. Everything sent is printed on a on going page so you can scroll back to check anything. It is very useful.
My email address is: * If you drop me a line on this we can start. We are third cousins by the way. We both look forward to hearing from you soon.
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Hi there, I am researching my Mother's family (Dorothy, née Bancroft) and came across this thread, although I can't see how old it is. I have quite an extensive tree on MyH which includes some of your families. My mother is descended from Ephraim Bancroft, son of George and Sarah and brother to your relatives. I would be pleased to make contact if any of you are still working on your trees. Not sure how, as new to this site. Trevor Hadley