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Title: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Monday 05 July 10 03:44 BST (UK)
Hello, has anyone researched Brown and Watson family
connections in Crail please?

I would like to discover who the parents of James Brown were.
James Brown (no birth place or date) married Anne Innes (b1806 Anstruther)
in the parish of Kingsbarns 1832.

They had three children all born in Kingsbarns
James (b 1833)  Ann (1835) and John Watson Brown (1839)

John Watson Brown married Joahan Walker Watson
1862 at the Manse of Crail Parish Church.
I’m wondering why the groom has his bride’s surname
Watson as his middle name…?
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: nanato5 on Monday 05 July 10 07:56 BST (UK)
hi winnie,on freecen 1841 census,james and family are living hillayre,kingsbarns fife ,james aged 46,agricultural worker,born fife,ann innes aged 34,james aged 8,ann aged 6,john aged 2,so birth date around 1795 for james ,went on to scotlands people,certificate just says contracted 3rd nov,james brown and ann innes both of this parish married on the 17th current(1832)  looks like his death on same page,as the page has ,contracted,births,deaths,       james brown labourer in  kingsbarns 29th august buried 31st last,no year though,hope this helps a little bit,his middle name could possibly be from his mum or dads side of the family,my late mother in law  had watson middle name,it came from her father's mother's side and mother in laws sister married a watson, no relation though,eva
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: ev on Monday 05 July 10 08:29 BST (UK)
hi Winnie  :)

just to add scotlandspeople has ann brown(other surname innes) 21st july
1851 kingsbarns fife - old parish register deaths and burials

ev
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: weemanswife on Monday 05 July 10 12:20 BST (UK)
According to cesuses on Ancestry  in 1841 James aged 41 and Ann 34 Along with family are living at Hallarye,
Kingbarns, Fife.  On the 1851 census James & Ann along with Ann aged 15 and John aged 11 are living at Sorbie, Crail, Fife . In thw 1861 census there is a James Brown born in Kingbarns abt 1796 living in Cellardyke, Fife. and in 1871 thereis a James Brown born abt 1793 in Kingbarns living at Cellardyke.  I take the last two are the same person.

Went to SP. in the births & baptisms there is a James Brown born 28 -9-1794 to a James Brown & Agnes Morice.
in Kingsbarns, Fife.

SP only came up with one death between 1871 & 1881 and was in 1877 for a James Brown in Kirkcaldy.
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Monday 05 July 10 14:18 BST (UK)
My goodness what kind and generous people.
Thank you  for information nanato5, ev and weemanswife
I'm away to look those up...
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: weemanswife on Monday 05 July 10 18:47 BST (UK)
The James Brown death in Kirkcaldy in 1877 was not your James Brown.
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: jac2 on Monday 05 July 10 19:07 BST (UK)
hi
fife death index entries

James BROWN      Kingsbarns,Sorby   4 Mar 1849   6 Mar 1849   age 15      son of James Brown(farm servt)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

Ann BROWN   INNE:   Kingsbarns,Sorbie        1851   45      wife   James Brown(farm Servt)      Lair Reg   Fife Counc
      
Ann BROWN   INNE:   Dunino,Sorbie,Kingsmuir   21 Jul 1851      45      wife   James Brown(farm servt)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   
jac2
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: davaar36 on Monday 05 July 10 19:15 BST (UK)
There is a death on SP for a James Brown of about correct age.
1874 BROWN JAMES     M 82 KILRENNY /FIFE 438/00 0022
Worth checking?

Dod
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: weemanswife on Monday 05 July 10 20:06 BST (UK)
Found the deathcertificate davaar36 was talking about.

James Brown, Ploughman widower of Ann Innes dies 6th Sept 1874 at Cellardyke Rd., Kilrenny, Fife aged 82.
Father James Brown Lime Quarrier, dec.  Mother Agnes Morris dec.  died of supposed  heart disease.  The informant  was his son John Brown.

There is also two trees on Ancestry which has this family.

If you Pm me your e-mail address I will send  you a copy of death cert. 

weemanswife
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: jac2 on Monday 05 July 10 20:27 BST (UK)
hi

death index entries
Agnes BROWN   MORR:   Kingsbarns   7 Dec 1843   9 Dec 1843   nk      widow   James Brown(labourer)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

Agnes MORRIS   BROW:   Kingsbarns   7 Dec 1843   9 Dec 1843   nk      widow   James Brown(labourer)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

James BROWN      Kingsbarns   29 Aug 1832   31 Aug 1832   nk   labourer            OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

Andrew BROWN      Kingsbarns   1 Sep 1819   2 Sep 1819   nk      son   James Brown(labourer)      OPR   OPR441-2   Old Parochial Registers   

John BROWN      Kingsbarns   25 Jun 1824   27 Jun 1824   nk      son   James Brown(labourer)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

Robert BROWN      Kingsbarns   17 Aug 1830   19 Aug 1830   nk      son   James Brown(labourer)      OPR   OPR441-3   Old Parochial Registers   

jac2
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Monday 05 July 10 23:37 BST (UK)
Hello, has anyone researched Brown and Watson family
connections in Crail please?

I would like to discover who the parents of James Brown were.
James Brown (no birth place or date) married Anne Innes (b1806 Anstruther)
in the parish of Kingsbarns 1832.

They had three children all born in Kingsbarns
James (b 1833)  Ann (1835) and John Watson Brown (1839)

John Watson Brown married Joahan Walker Watson
1862 at the Manse of Crail Parish Church.
I’m wondering why the groom has his bride’s surname
Watson as his middle name…?


Hello Winnie. I've enjoyed reading your query and all the helpful answers from other people on this forum. Having done a lot of research on my home town of Cellardyke, I knew that a James Brown, born in Kingsbarns, showed up in some of the 19th century censuses of Cellardyke, but I didn't know about the Innes connection. That's what interests me most. I knew that several females called Innes, born in Kingsbarns, lived in Cellardyke in the 19th century, and I know about the Innes family of Anstruther, from whom I'm descended myself, but until now I thought they were unrelated. Now, I'm not so sure.

The Ann Innes who married James Brown in 1832 at Kingsbarns was born in Anstruther in 1806 to Alexander Innes, shoemaker, and Ann Dougal. This couple were married at South Leith, Edinburgh, in 1802. Alexander Innes was then a cooper, and Ann Dougal was the daughter of James Dougal, cooper in Anstruther. The IGI shows that James "Dowgal" married Anna Duncan at Anstruther in 1781.

Although Alexander Innes is a cooper in Leith, I think he may well have been from Anstruther originally. A lot of men from the East Neuk of Fife sailed out of Leith on merchant navy vessels and whalers, and tradesmen may also have moved there for work.

At some point, Alexander Innes and Ann Dougal must have moved from Anstruther to Kingsbarns. Their daughters Mary and Catherine Innes, both born in Kingsbarns, married James and William Wood respectively, fishermen in Cellardyke and sons of Alexander Wood and Christian Moncrieff. In 1861 James Wood was a widower and his sister-in-law Janet Innes, also born in Kingsbarns, was his housekeeper. The Woods were a very large and well-known fishing family in Cellardyke and Pittenweem, and there are still lots of them around in the East Neuk.

Coming back to the Browns, your John Watson Brown married Johan Walker Watson in Crail in 1862, and they share a page in the Crail marriages register with Charles Black and Margaret Peebles, both of Sorbie, Kingsmuir, Crail. Margaret Peebles was a 1st cousin of my great-great-grandfather James Peebles (1827-1869).

Johan Watson was the daughter of Alexander Watson and Margaret Patrick of Crail. I haven't come across this couple before.

I hope some of this is of interest.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: jac2 on Tuesday 06 July 10 01:35 BST (UK)


hi
painting of mid shore pittenweem. back of the picture contains a pencil sketch by the artist naming the people in the pic. mostly woods and innes. pic painted 1930

jac2
Title: Balkaithly, Dunino
Post by: winnie7 on Tuesday 06 July 10 13:45 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for an amazing response in this forum!

I need to draw a tree on a large piece of paper onto which I can make notes, and refer to. 
Looking at old maps too. There certainly were a lot of Watsons and Browns spread acround Crail.

Does anyone know who was living at Balkaithly farm, Dunino in the 1861 census please? 

John Watson Brown born 1839 was in Kingsbarns in 1851, and at Airdrie, Crail  1862
when he married Jotana Walker Watson.
At least one of their daughters seems to have been born  at Balkaithly
in the 1860’s. So I am wondering if John and Jotana ever lived there?
For in 1881 they are back at Kingsbarns.

Balkaithly on an old map seems to be about 4 miles from Kingsbarns,
about 14 large fields in between the two, they could have walked it.
Maybe they had a family connection with the following…?

In 1851 Balkaithly seems to have been occupied by another Brown family:
John Brown age 60, his wife Margaret Robertson,
son James, daughters Bettsey and Christina.
I think this John Brown then died because in 1861 his wife and farmer son et al
are at Clephanton Cottage.   So who was living at Balkaithly…?

To add to the confusion, the 1841 census at Balkaithly shows
(in addition to the farmer’s son James Brown born abt 1826 Carnbee)
another James Brown born abt 1826 working as an ag lab!

I am new to this, hope I have the names and dates right…
Title: A Watson mystery
Post by: winnie7 on Tuesday 06 July 10 13:52 BST (UK)
Hello Harry,
Thanks for your interesting reply yesterday.

You mention Mary Innes and Catherine Innes married James and William Wood respectively
and that James Wood was a widower and his sister-in-law Janet Innes, also born in Kingsbarns,
was his housekeeper.

How fascinating - I have a James Woods as witness to the marriage
of John Watson Brown and Jotana Walker Watson 1862 both of Airdrie, parish of Crail.

John Watson Brown (born 5 April 1839) in Kingsbarns (whose line I am following)
was I believe the third child of James Brown and Ann Innes. I’m still wondering how
he had Watson for his middle name, his bride’s surname also being Watson
which may connect with the following mystery…

I have an old newspaper article passed down in my family papers
through the John Watson Brown line.

It’s about the Crail lifeboat and rough Fife seas of October 1898.
It mentions, 
“John Watson, age 57, coxswain, married, three daughters and five sons...” 

Searching, it seems that this John Watson was born 28 Oct 1841 in Crail
and lived at Nethergate, parents Alexander Watson and Catherine Stobie.
He married a Janet / Jessie Laird I believe, and there were maybe nine little Watsons.
A public tree on ancestry.com provides plenty of names and dates on that.

I suspect there is a connection,
otherwise why would John Watson Brown’s married daughter
and her husband in Kincardine keep the article?
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Tuesday 06 July 10 14:49 BST (UK)
Hello again. Although my Watsons were in Cellardyke, I have also researched the Crail Watsons to some extent, and there are at least two separate families, one which originated in Crail, and one which came from the north-east of England via a short stay in Cellardyke. My Crail relatives were called Peebles, and lived in the Shoregate, West Lane, and later the Nethergate.

Re John Watson in the lifeboat, my grandfather James Peebles was also in the Crail lifeboat at a later date. And as for Browns, it was probably the commonest surname of all in Crail, although your Browns appear to be from Kingsbarns.

Come to think about it, in 1875 my great-grandfather James Peebles was joint owner with a John Watson of a Crail fishing-boat called the "Unity" (I once made lots of notes from the Anstruther Fishery Office boat registers in the National Archives of Scotland).

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: mussenden18 on Monday 06 September 10 13:22 BST (UK)
Hi,

i am not sure if we are some far of relation but I have been able to trace my line back from myself(Born 1947) to James Brown's parents and also those of Ann Innes. Like yourself I have come to a halt apart from what appears to be some additional information on the parents which I have picked up from the threads on this posting.  I am descended from John Watson Brown/Joanna Watson's daughter Joan Birrel Brown (B1864 D 1903). Joan married James Thompson Stephen in 1888 and their daughter Mary Jane Thompson Stephen (B 1898 D 1984) was my Grandmother.  As far as I can ascertain James and Joan had 7 children but apart from Mary Jane and her sister Beryl Brown Stephen I have been unable to find any post birth information on the others. 

Can your research provide me with any additional information along that line and i would be happy to share any information that I may have.

Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Monday 06 September 10 16:15 BST (UK)
I don't know any more than I put in my last post. However, I thought I would check out Alexander Watson and Margaret Patrick on Scotlandspeople. This I have not been able to do, as I keep being told I am being denied access to the page I want, although I still have 16 credits. I don't know what is going on with that site, but they have changed their page layout and I'm not finding it as user-friendly as it used to be. Also, the Contact Us link isn't working for me.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: mussenden18 on Monday 06 September 10 18:16 BST (UK)
Harry,
 I used the new SP site yesterday and found no difficulty other than my credits had expired.   Alexander Watson and Margaret Watson Patrick married 04.08.1827 at Anstruther Easter and he was listed as a Miller. Alexander died 04.08.1877(his wedding anniversary) and Margaret died 20.10.1878.  They were both living at Craighead Crail at the time of their death.    I have not been able yet to trace their birth records but I know that he was born in Anstruther Easter and Margaret was born in Leith Mid Lothian.
Hope this helps.
David
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Monday 06 September 10 19:11 BST (UK)
Thanks, you inspired me to try again, and this time I had no problems. Must have been a temporary blip.

I discovered that the Alexander Watson who married Mgt. Patrick was born in 1805 at Anstruther to Alexander Watson, weaver, and Janet Parky, which is the local spelling and pronunciation of Parker. I found this latter couple in the 1851 census of Anstruther, and discovered that Alexander senior was from the parish of Cameron, so I've lost interest in him. His wife was from Anstruther. There are still Parkers around, and the locals still say "Parky". Watson was the commonest local surname for centuries, and we don't need more Watsons coming in from outside to complicate matters!

I was really more interested in discovering why John Watson Brown and Johanna Watson called their daughter Joan Birrell Brown, as I know quite a lot about the local Birrells, but I haven't managed to solve that one.

Harry (Watson)
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: mussenden18 on Monday 06 September 10 20:14 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thanks for the marriage date. Did not know that.  I like you am at a loss as to why  the names Watson and Birrel were introduced.  Someone did suggest that at the time of marriage the partners family name was adopted as a middle name. I haven't seen anything to support this but it sounds plausible.

The name birrell was carried on as my great aunt born 1899 was called Beryl which i believe was a derivative of Birrel.

I will keep researching the middle name issue and advise if I find anything.

David Irwin
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Monday 06 September 10 21:51 BST (UK)
(extract) ... Joan married James Thompson Stephen in 1888 and their daughter Mary Jane Thompson Stephen (B 1898 D 1984) was my Grandmother. 

Hi David,
Mary Jane Thomson Stephen was one of my grandfather’s sisters.
Sending you a private message.
Thanks rootschat! :)
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Tuesday 07 September 10 01:27 BST (UK)
....Watson was the commonest local surname for centuries, and we don't need more Watsons coming in from outside to complicate matters!Harry (Watson)

Well sorry but here's another one, intriguing.... :)
Who was "Granny Watson" who washed football shirts for the local Crail football team for years?
There's a photo on the SCRAN website. Apparently she lived to age 102.
I have a short subscription. Reference http://www.scran.ac.uk/
search "Mrs Watson pegging out a football shirt, Fife, 1970s"
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Tuesday 07 September 10 10:56 BST (UK)
Ah, I'm glad you asked me that (no, really!). My mother was a Crail woman, and often spoke about "Granny Watson". I've seen the photo you mention. When she was 100, they offered to buy her a washing-machine to make it easier for her to wash the football shirts, and she was incensed, thinking they were hinting that she was past it. Every time she sneezed the word went round Crail that this time Granny Watson was on the way out, but she hung on in there. One day she passed out in a shop in Crail, but when they revived her and wanted to take her to the doctor she pooh-poohed their efforts, saying she had come out without her cup of tea that morning and that was all that was wrong.

I have details of her family-tree which I worked out earlier this year with the help of Scotlandspeople. She started life as Jessie Terras Scobie, born in Crail in 1875 to Andrew Stobie and Helen Watson (daughter of Thomas Watson and Helen Balsillie). These are Crail Watsons - but in 1894 Jessie married fisherman Henry Watson, son of James Watson and Janet Cowe, who came from Northumberland, from where they moved to Cellardyke - my home town - from where they moved the 4 miles to Crail.

As an amateur historian of Cellardyke (my book about the place was published in 1986 by John Donald Ltd.), where Watson was the commonest surname for hundreds of years, it has always intrigued me that this English couple called Watson moved there in Victorian times. They must have felt at home among all the other Watsons!

James Watson and Janet Cowe also had a son called John who was known in Crail as "English Jock". He was quite a character, and you can see his photo and read about him in one of those books of old photos of Fife. I've forgotten the author and title, but it's on my bookshelves somewhere.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Wednesday 08 September 10 02:39 BST (UK)
Extract.... Ah, I'm glad you asked me that (no, really!). My mother was a Crail woman, and often spoke about "Granny Watson". Harry

Thanks for that Harry, a great story!
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Wednesday 08 September 10 09:45 BST (UK)
One correction to what I said above - "Granny Watson" was Jessie Terras Stobie, not  Scobie.

I can claim a distant connection by marriage. Her uncle Thomas Stobie married a Jane Smith who was a half-sister of my great-grandmother Margaret Spink (Mrs. James Peebles). Thomas Stobie and Jane Smith had a daughter called Magdalene Dewar Stobie who was thus a 1st cousin both of Jessie Stobie/"Granny Watson" and of my maternal grandfather James Peebles junior.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: winnie7 on Wednesday 08 September 10 20:04 BST (UK)
Extract.. I can claim a distant connection by marriage....Harry

May you enjoy those inherited genes of longevity! :)
Enjoyed reading publisher's review and your biog;
thanks for sharing your research and amusing stories
here at rootschat.
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Wednesday 08 September 10 23:51 BST (UK)
Thanks. The problem with me is getting me to stop once I've started. I promise this is my last posting on the subject of Watsons in Cellardyke and Crail.

The situation I've outlined in the above posts, re Watsons, is only half the story. James Watson and Jane Cowe - the Northumbrian couple who settled in Cellardyke - must have had regular visits from Jane's sister Elizabeth "Betsy" Cowe - because she ended up marrying a Cellardyke fisherman called ... James Watson. He was a genuine Cellardyke Watson, better known as "Hanksey", and was a 1st cousin of my grandfather Watson.

James Watson and Betsy Cowe had a son called Thomas Watson who moved to Aberdeen and became skipper of a trawler called "Lord Talbot". Thomas's claim to fame is that in 1932 he rescued the famous "Flying Family", an American family of aviators who were trying to become the first family to fly across the Atlantic together when they pranged their plane on the  Greenland ice-sheet. Luckily none of them were hurt. Thomas Watson abandoned his fishing trip and took the American family back to Aberdeen. His reward was to be sacked by the boat's owners, as they were not amused by his returning to port without any fish. The crew were paid no wages, really savage treatment during the Depression when times were hard enough already.

However, President Herbert Hoover presented skipper Watson with a pair of binoculars which his family later gave to the Aberdeen Maritime Museum, where you can still see them.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: blackisler on Saturday 08 January 11 19:22 GMT (UK)
Harry,
I've just stumbled on this as I've just discovered Charles Black and Margaret Peebles in our tree. Do you know if the same Margaret Peebles had an illegitimate daughter Alison Jack (father Thomas Jack, never married), in circa 1853? I have more details if necessary.

Carrie
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Saturday 08 January 11 20:10 GMT (UK)
Hi! I'd forgotten all about this correspondence.

I don't know which Margaret Peebles had the illegitimate daughter called Alison Jack, but I looked up the birth of that child on Scotlandspeople, and she was born on 25th June 1853 and baptised on 28th November 1854. I bet there was some manoeuvring behind the scenes to get Thomas Jack to admit paternity! I have a lot of material on the Jacks.

Strangely, Alison Jack doesn't appear in the 1861 census and I can't find her death any time between 1854 and 1861. I'd be interested in any information you have.

Harry
Title: Wood Wallace Morris McPhee Watson of East Neuk and Fife
Post by: garvaghnames on Saturday 23 April 11 08:36 BST (UK)
I have an Ahnentafel report for William Wood, b 1895, Fife, Scotland. It features Wood, Wallace, Morris and other names in Cellardyke/Kilrenny, Pittenweem etc. These reports can be hard to read in email so there is a PDF image available on request. Mary Ann Wallace (MS McPhee), b 1816 France, is an interesting ancestor. Her father was in the 71st Regiment of Foot and some evidence leads me to the tentative belief that he was James McPhee, b Minnigaff, Kirkcudbrightshire, who enlisted at Leith and served in the Peninsular War and at Waterloo, though this link to Mary Ann is not proved definitively as yet. Mary Ann also had a sister, Helen McPhee, who is captured in one census in Fife and, I believe, married in Fife.

All links and colour detail gratefully received


Ahnentafel: Ancestors of William WOOD b 1895 Pittenweem

.....................................................................................................................................


Generation 1

1.   William WOOD, son of James WOOD and Mary Ann WALLACE was born about 1895 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. He married Annie Currie YOUNG. She was born on 21 Jan 1897 in Larkhall, Lanarkshire, Scotland.


Generation 2

2.   James WOOD, son of William WOOD and Margaret Watson MORRIS was born about 1867 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. He married Mary Ann WALLACE.

3.   Mary Ann WALLACE, daughter of James WALLACE and Lillias SMITH was born about 1867 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT.

Mary Ann WALLACE and James WOOD had the following children:

i.   Lilias Wood was born about 1892 in Anstruther, FIF, SCT.

2.   ii. William WOOD was born about 1895 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. He married Annie Currie YOUNG. She was born on 21 Jan 1897 in Larkhall, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

iii.   James Wood was born about 1898 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT.

Generation 3

4.   William WOOD, son of Alexander WOOD and Grizal WATSON was born on 14 Dec 1827 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT. He married Margaret Watson MORRIS on 28 Apr 1848 in Kilrenny, FIF, SCT.

5.   Margaret Watson MORRIS, daughter of John MORRIS and Margaret DUNCAN was born on 19 Jul 1829 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. She died on 21 Feb 1909 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT.

Margaret Watson MORRIS and William WOOD had the following children:

i.   Alexander Wood was born about 1849 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

ii.   John M Wood was born about 1851 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

iii.   William Wood was born about 1852 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

iv.   David Wood was born about 1854 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

v.   Margaret Wood was born about 1860 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

vi.   Mary Wood was born about 1862 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

vii.   Grace W Wood was born about 1865 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. She married DUTCH.

viii.   Thomas Wood was born about 1866 in Pittenweem, Fifeshire.

3.   ix. James WOOD was born about 1867 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT. He married Mary Ann WALLACE, daughter of James WALLACE and Lillias SMITH. She was born about 1867 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT.

6.   James WALLACE, son of John WALLACE and Mary Ann McPHEE was born on 01 Aug 1841 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT. He died on 31 Dec 1906 in Anstruther, FIF, SCT. He married Lillias SMITH on 10 Sep 1864 in Anstruther, FIF, SCT (At the United Presbyterian Manse. Witnesses: Daniel Fleming and Elizabeth Wallace.).

7.   Lillias SMITH, daughter of Alexander SMITH and Jacobina 'Binnie' WOOD was born on 28 Oct 1841 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT. She died on 17 Jan 1910 in Anstruther, FIF, SCT.

Lillias SMITH and James WALLACE had the following children:

i.   Jacobina WALLACE was born about 1864 in Kilrenny, Fifeshire. She married James Anderson. He was born in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT.

3.   ii. Mary Ann WALLACE was born about 1867 in Cellardyke, Kilrenny, FIF, SCT. She married James WOOD, son of William WOOD and Margaret Watson MORRIS. He was born about 1867 in Pittenweem, FIF, SCT.
 
iii.   Lilias WALLACE was born in 1869 in Kilrenny, Fifeshire.

iv.   John WALLACE was born in 1871.

v.   James P WALLACE was born in 1875.

vi.   Lillias Smith WALLACE was born in 1877. She died in 1936.

vii.   Margaret E WALLACE was born in 1880.

More on request




Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Saturday 23 April 11 09:15 BST (UK)
Hello! The Wood family-tree is a well-known one in the East Neuk of Fife, and they have been well researched by a number of people. I think it can be proven that most of the Woods of St. Monans, Pittenweem and Cellardyke are related to each other. I have known a lot of Woods in my time and am related to some of them.

Harry (Watson)
(originally from Cellardyke)
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: garvaghnames on Sunday 24 April 11 12:40 BST (UK)
Hello and thanks for replying. Any links to other researchers of Wood and Wallace would be great. Do you want a PDF of my research of not? My uncle was a Wood from St Monans whose father died before my uncle was born. He went to school in St Monans and went down to live with an aunt or granny in Lancashire when he was 11.

Best regards
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Sunday 24 April 11 14:10 BST (UK)
Thanks, I have a PDF on the computer that somebody else sent me, and I've done a fair amount of research on the Woods myself. The links between the different towns are interesting.

There was a boy called Wood from St. Monans in my class at secondary school in Anstruther, and my dad had a cousin married to a St. Monans man called Wood who became an inspector in the Thames River Police in London. They retired back to Cellardyke and my dad and I used to first-foot them at the New Year.

Harry
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: James Wood on Thursday 27 June 24 13:58 BST (UK)

There was a boy called Wood from St. Monans in my class at secondary school in Anstruther, and my dad had a cousin married to a St. Monans man called Wood who became an inspector in the Thames River Police in London. They retired back to Cellardyke and my dad and I used to first-foot them at the New Year.

Harry

Your Dad's cousin must have been Mary Anderson, married to my Grandfather who was the Inspector on the Thames River Police. He had sons William and Robert  and daughter Marina . I am Robert's son, I have a son named Robert and we live at the East Neuk after having travelled all over the world.
Title: Re: BROWN / WATSON of Crail
Post by: hdw on Saturday 29 June 24 09:53 BST (UK)
Spot on! Hello, and welcome to Rootschat.

Harry