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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: lyndsey86 on Sunday 04 July 10 11:58 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find information for this family William Wilson and Jane Hyslop or Hislop married 1840 Carluke, they had a son William 1847 and died 1877 Cambusnethan, he married Margaret Gray 1876, she went onto marry John Isaac 1890 Cambusnethan, her parents were Andrew Gray and Isabella or Elizabeth Muir don't have a marriage date for them, but I am sure they were married around the Lanark area.
John Isaac born 1841 his parents were James Isaac and Harriet Prater also can't find a marriage for them.
Hope someone can throw some light on all of the names I have mentioned.
Ann
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Hi :)
It might be better to tackle your requests one by one ~
A little bit of information. The marriage/banns for William Wilson and Jane Hislop in 1840 states that Jane was of the parish of Sanquhar which is in Dumfriesshire. This might be that Jane was working there or might have been born there. William was of Carluke.
Have you got the family on any of the censuses?
Gadget
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Hi
I know what you mean by searching family by family, but they are all related somewhere along the line.
Thanks for your help.
Ann
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but they are all related somewhere along the line.
Yes - of course they are but it is much easier for you and those trying to help if you were to tackle them one at a time:
~ Wilson/Hislop
~ Wilson/Gray
~Gray/Isaac
~Gray/Muir
~Isaac/Prater
Gadget
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It seems that I have come to a brick wall with this branch.
Ann
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I'm away now until Tuesday but if no one else has helped by then, I'll see what I can find.
Some census info on the various families might help locate their birth places, etc.
Gadget
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Hi Ann,
Check out the postings on the Cambusnethan grave find thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,183738.315.html
Lodger.
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Hi Ann :)
Just got back a few hours ago.
The Wilson/H*slop line
I think that this might be William Wilson and Jane/Jean H*slop and their children on the 1851:
Whitestripe Farm, Muirhouses, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
628 ED 11 Page 1
Wilson
William, 36, ironstone miner, b. Dumfries, Sanquhar
Jean,35, b -do-
James, 9, b. Carluke
John, 6, b. Dumfries, Sanquhar
William, 4, b -do-
Ann, 2, b. Carluke
Gavin, 10 months, b. Cambusnethan
so Wilsons in Dumfries :-\ I have some there and they are a real struggle. I'll try to follow them up if you'd like :)
Gadget
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Nearest baptism that I can find for Jean/Jane in Sanquhar is:
17th Sept 1819 Jean Hislop
Parents - James Hislop and Margaret Findlater
Gadget
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Not sure about the Sanquhar Jean/Jane
Here they are in 1861:
East Road, Cambusnethan
628 ED 21 page 5
Wilson
Wm, 45, coal miner, b. Sanquhar
Jane, 47, b. Kirkpartrick Durham, Kircudbrightshire
Wm, 14, b. Sanquhar
Annie, 13, b. Cambusnethan
Gavin, 10, b. -do-
will have a look in KP Durham
Gadget
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Can't see a good match at the moment.
However, because they lived beyond 1861, they should show in the deaths on SP. The certs would give their parents' names which would get you back another generation at least.
Gadget
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Research has been done on this family on the Lanarkshire page aready, I did look-ups on the Cambusnethan Burial Records (I think) for someone.
There is a gravestone in the old churchyard at Cambusnethan with the following inscription -
"Erected by William Wilson in memory of his wife Jane Hyslop who died 5th August 18(?)5 aged 37 years. (some unreadable) ...... Son Gavin died 11th November 1863 aged 13 years."
Some burial records for this plot -
Owner registered (In Victorian times) as William Wilson.
Buried in the Centre lair -
JANE WILSON aged 74 years, 22nd April 1887.
Buried in the North lair -
ANNIE THOMSON, aged 59 years, 11th February 1908.
Also some records from the Day Book of internments -
WILLIAM WILSON, miner, Cambusnethan, aged 30 years, married.
Parents - William Wilson and Jane Hyslop.
Interred in the old churchyard, 7th March 1877.
ANN THOMSON, housewife, Newmains, aged 59 years, married.
Interred in the old churchyard, 11th February 1908.
Lodger
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Hi Lodger
Yes, i've seen that but there is no info on parents of Jane and William senior (both b. circa 1815) and we need those to go further back. There appear to be two Janes unless the Mi is wrong!
Back to trying to locate the Janes' births or parents ~
It also states Kirkpatrick Durham as Jane's birthplace on the 1871 and 1881. Also,not sure of the William Mcdougall described as 'son'. It might well be your William (b. 1847) but the age is slightly out ~
1871
McIntyres Land, Cambusnethan 628 ED 4 page 3
Wilson
William, 55, newsagent (?), b. Sanquhar
Jane, 56, b. Kirkpatrick Durham, Kirkcudbrightshire
William Mcdougall, 27, Commercial Traveller, b.Kirkpatrick Durham
1881
Wishaw Road, Cambusnethan
628 ED 6 page 31
Wilson
William, 65, newsagent, b. Sanquhar
Jane,68, b. Kirkpatrick Durham
Gadget
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William Wilson married twice ~
His death, aged 81, in 1897 states widower of 1 Jane Hyslop 2 Jane Rae
His parents were James Wilson, Quarrier, deceased and Betsy m.s. Laurie, deceased
Gadget
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Ha! Gadget, you just beat me to it!
I was thinking that he married twice and that Jane Hyslop must have died in 1855 (which was a great year to die!) because she is on the inscription before Gavin, who died in 1863.
Lodger
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I'm having a look for her death in 1855 now - I can't see any likely H*slops on the 1841 in Sanquhar. Thought that I'd check them out first.
Gadget
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Lodger ~
Are you sure that it's 1855 and not 1853? I don't see a death record for her using all sorts of wildcards or soundex and Jane/Jean, etc.
She was down as 35 in 1851 so she would have been 37 in 1853.
Gadget
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Must be 53 if she's not in the 1855 index, pity about that.
I had a look in the C/nethan burials for any children of William and Jane Rae. I found the entry for Gavin, it makes interesting reading!
GAVIN WILSON, pit clerk, Newmains, aged 13 years, single.
Parents - William Wilson and Jane Rae.
Interred in the old churchyard, 13th November 1863.
Lodger.
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Children of James Wilson and Elizabeth/Betsy Laurie in Sanquhar ~
8 Jan 1809 Isabel
15 April 1810 Elizabeth
19 July 1821 Gavin
William's baptism/birth is not on the IGI or SP but the gap between 1810 and 1821 suggests that the records may be lost, the baptism not recorded or some other reason.
Gadget
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Just seen your info on Gavin - that doesn't fit with the 1851 info does it - maybe whoever entered the burial details got the Janes mixed up.
Gadget
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Death cert also has the mother as Jane Rae. Informant was son James - who was also the informant on his father's cert.
Gadget
Added - the 1851 was surely Jane Hyslop and not Jane Rae as far as I can see - age, place of birth, etc.
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An outside possible for Elizabeth/Betsy Laurie, mother of William Wilson ~
Sanquhar 9 Sept 1792 Elizabeth d/o Thomas Laurie and Katharine Gibson
I'm loath to go looking for a James Wilson (his father) as I've got one of those in either Dumfries or Kirkcudbright that I still can't identify after many many years - the same generation as well :-\
Wilsons in those counties are like my Joneses in North Wales!
Gadget
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Hi I am new to this I am also looking at information on William Wilson father of Tom Wilson in Sanquhar.
William Wilson he had was a bookseller and stationer he wrote the book The Visitors Guide to Sanquhar & Neighbourhood with a list of the people in business in Sanquhar,Wanlockhead and Kirkconnel. Tom Wilson his son wrote Burns and Black Joan as well as Memorials of Sanquhar Kirkyard which lists a plan for that and the names of those buried and what they did for a living.
William Wilson was born April 4th 1886. His parents were Robert Wilson Blacksmith(Journeyman) and Jane Wilson (M S Cunningham).I think this could be her maiden name Not sure if this of any help
lyncat