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Title: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Canterburynorth on Friday 02 July 10 09:21 BST (UK)
Hello all,

Robert Petrie was born in 1833 at Glamis
He was the sixth child of eight, to parents Alexander and Barbara Petrie
In January 1860 he married Betsy Stark at Forfar
They then left for New Zealand.

I am trying to find the other siblings names, I would be so pleased of any help

Kindest regards
Leandra
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 02 July 10 09:40 BST (UK)
Hi Leandra

Have you used IGI at www.familysearch.org? If you do a 'parent search' on the IGI search screen, it brings up a number of children for Alexander Petrie and Barbara Gibson (actual extracts from the Parish Registers for births and christenings).

On the IGI search screen, simply put in full names for father and mother on the r/h side and then at the bottom British Isles and Scotland. You should see 19 entries (births and christenings).

Monica
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 02 July 10 09:46 BST (UK)
This looks to be the family in 1851 - younger children all born in Glamis:

Alexander Petrie 50, Shoemaker Employing One Man b. Forfar
Barbara Gibson 50 b. Forfar
Isabella Petrie 20 b. Forfar
John Petrie 13
Charles Petrie 10
Thomas Petrie 6
George Petrie 4

Address: Charleston, Glamis

Alexander is working away from home in Milltown Glen of Ogilvie as a blacksmith apprentice.

Monica
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: Canterburynorth on Friday 02 July 10 09:50 BST (UK)
Monica you are an absoloute star! I just cannot get any results for census ever.

Thank you so very much.

Kindest regards
Leandra
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 02 July 10 09:51 BST (UK)
A few links about the family:

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.gibson/1001/mb.ashx
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=21&p=surnames.joss

There is actually a lot of links relating to this family! If you google "alexander petrie" +"barbara gibson", you will see them  :) Lots of good information about them.

Monica
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: Canterburynorth on Friday 02 July 10 09:57 BST (UK)
Thank you Monica :D I really appreciate your kindness.
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: GEN10 on Thursday 29 July 10 20:56 BST (UK)
Hya Leandra, have you got the 1841 census for the family? If not heare it is. If you have already got it, never mind.
 PETRIE   Alexander  40   Shoemaker    Angus       
 PETRIE   Barbara     40       Angus       
 PETRIE   James        15   Apprentice Shoemaker    Angus       
 PETRIE   Isabella     10       Angus       
 PETRIE   Alexander    7       Angus       
 PETRIE   Robert         7       Angus       
 PETRIE   David           5       Angus       
 PETRIE   John            3       Angus       
  PETRIE   Charles      8m     Angus
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: GEN10 on Thursday 29 July 10 20:58 BST (UK)
Hya Leandra, have you got the 1841 census for the family? If not here it is. If you have already got it, never mind.
 PETRIE   Alexander  40   Shoemaker    Angus        
 PETRIE   Barbara     40       Angus        
 PETRIE   James        15   Apprentice Shoemaker    Angus        
 PETRIE   Isabella     10       Angus        
 PETRIE   Alexander    7       Angus        
 PETRIE   Robert         7       Angus        
 PETRIE   David           5       Angus        
 PETRIE   John            3       Angus        
  PETRIE   Charles      8m     Angus
Title: Re: Petrie
Post by: Canterburynorth on Thursday 29 July 10 21:46 BST (UK)
Hi GEN10,

Thats fabulous, thanks so very much for taking the trouble, very much appreciated.

Kind regards
Leandra
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Thursday 10 September 20 06:22 BST (UK)
Hi.

Looking for any info re the following Petries.

Cheers,

Gary
Australia.

 John + Petrie

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    Born about 1655 - Angus, Scotland.
    Deceased

 Spouses, children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren

    Married about 1680, Scotland., to Mary + Morgons, born about 1659 - Angus, Scotland., deceased (see note)

 
 Mary + Morgons

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    Born about 1659 - Angus, Scotland.
    Deceased

 

· #Janet PETER/PETRIE

· Given Name: Janet

· Surname: Peter

· Sex: F 1

1 John HUTCHEON b: 27 Dec 1702 in Tannadice, Scotland

    Married: 12 Oct 1729. spouse:Mary Peter or Petrie

    John Hutcheon Spouse's Name:Mary Petrie Event Date:15 Jun 1729 Event Place: Forfar, Angus, Scotland


James Hutcheon

Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910
   

marriage:

12 October 1729

Forfar, Angus, Scotland
   

spouse:

Jannet Peter
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Tuesday 16 November 21 05:30 GMT (UK)
Hi.

Looking for any info re the following Petries.

Cheers,

Gary
Australia.

 John + Petrie

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    Born about 1655 - Angus, Scotland.
    Deceased

 Spouses, children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren

    Married about 1680, Scotland., to Mary + Morgons, born about 1659 - Angus, Scotland., deceased (see note)

 
 Mary + Morgons

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    Born about 1659 - Angus, Scotland.
    Deceased

 

· #Janet PETER/PETRIE

· Given Name: Janet

· Surname: Peter

· Sex: F 1

1 John HUTCHEON b: 27 Dec 1702 in Tannadice, Scotland

    Married: 12 Oct 1729. spouse:Mary Peter or Petrie

    John Hutcheon Spouse's Name:Mary Petrie Event Date:15 Jun 1729 Event Place: Forfar, Angus, Scotland


James Hutcheon

Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910
   

marriage:

12 October 1729

Forfar, Angus, Scotland
   

spouse:

Jannet Peter
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Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Sunday 17 November 24 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi.

Still searching those in my previous post. Any help would be fantastic.

Cheers,

Gary.
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Sunday 11 May 25 09:20 BST (UK)
Hi.

Still looking for any info re Janet & Mary Petrie of Forfar married to Hutcheons.

Cheers,

Gary.
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 11 May 25 10:36 BST (UK)
I hate to have to disappoint, but the chances of finding anything more, and especially anything reliable (i.e. not some tree or other submitted to Ancestry or some other commercial web site) are very small indeed unless your Hutcheons or Petries owned land.

Your post raises a lot of questions.

From what you have posted, you have a marriage of a John Hutcheon to a Mary Petrie in Forfar in 1729. Have you looked at the original of that marriage record on Scotland's People to see what else (if anything) it tells you?

There is no surviving record on Scotland's People of a marriage of a James H*t*c*n* to a J*n*t* P*t*r*, either on the same date and in the same place as the marriage of John H and Mary P, or anywhere else at any time. Where did you get this piece of information?

There are no surviving records on Scotland's People of any baptisms of children to J* H*t*c*n* and either Janet or Mary P*t*r*. What is your connection to either of these couples, and what is the source of that information?

Scotland's People has no record of the baptism of a John H*t*c*n* in Tannadice in 1702 or 1703. What is the source of the birth date you found of 27 December 1702?

What evidence do you have to prove that it was this John H*t*c*n* who married Mary P*t*r*?

According to Scotland's People John Petrie and Margaret M*rg*n* had six children baptised in Mains and Strathmartine betwen 1682 and 1700. Ann 1682, Robert 1684, Helen 1686, Jean 1695, Euphemia and James 1700. What is your evidence that it was they who were the parents of Janet P*t*r* who married John Hutcheon?
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Sunday 11 May 25 14:02 BST (UK)
Hi & thanks very much for the reply & info. Most of my info came from Familysearch &/or Findmypast.

Could this be Mary her ??

Mary Peatry
Sex   Female
Birth Date   6
Father's Name   Tho. Peatry

Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Hel. Skea

Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   6 Jun 1703
Event Place   Montrose, Forfarshire, Scotland
Event Place (Original)   Montrose, Angus, Scotland
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Gary Allison on Sunday 11 May 25 14:08 BST (UK)
Hi.

Could this be Janet??

Janet
Last name    Petrie
Birth year    -
Baptism year    1679
Baptism date    04 Dec 1679
Place    Brechin
Father's first name(s)    James
Father's last name    Petrie
Father's occupation    ?ger
Mother's first name(s)    Elspit
Mother's last name    Hay
County    Forfarshire (Angus)
Country    Scotland
Record set    Scotland, Dundee & Forfarshire (Angus) Births & Baptisms 1562-1855
Category    Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory    Parish Baptisms
Collections from    Great Britain, Scotland
James
Last name    Petrie
Baptism date    04 Dec 1679
Baptism year    1679
Birth year    -
Mother's first name(s)    Elspit
Mother's last name    Hay
Father's first name(s)    James
Father's last name    Petrie
Father's occupation    ?ger
Place    Brechin
County    Forfarshire (Angus)
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James Petrie
Sex   Male
Christening Date   13 Jan 1639
Christening Place   Brechin, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom
Christening Place (Original)   Brechin, Angus, Scotland
Father's Name   James Petrie

Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Agnes Duncan

Mother's Sex   Female



Mary Petrie
Sex   F
Mary Petrie's Spouses and Children
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John Hutcheon
Husband
M
Name   #John Hutcheon
Title: Re: Petrie(completed with thanks)
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 11 May 25 17:32 BST (UK)
Hi & thanks very much for the reply & info. Most of my info came from Familysearch &/or Findmypast.
The thing is that when it comes to Scottish records most of the information on FS and FindMyPast, just like the other commercial web sites, is transcriptions and indexes of originals that are only available on Scotland's People. It's always necessary to look at the originals, for two main reasons.

First, to check whether or not the information in the transcription or index matches the information in the original. Errors do occur!

Second, to see whether there is additional information in the original that is not transcribed or indexed but might be useful.

The other thing is that, just because there may only be one possible candidate in the surviving records, it doesn't mean that they are the right person. There are so many gaps in the church registers before 1855 that you cannot assume anything.