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Title: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:31 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have an Edward James STONE born about 1819 married to a Hannah HANAM in 1839. Can anyone find any information showing who Edward's parents were?

Thank you,
Rose-Twig  :)
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:34 BST (UK)


Hi

No guarantees that this is your man but.....

Baptism Register
St Saviour
Southwark

Edward James son of Edward and Caroline Mary Ann STONE of St Lukes.  Born Feb 17th 1819 Baptised May 30th 1819.  Father's Occupation Card Maker.

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Karenlee, this matches some other information I have previously found about Edward, i.e. born St Lukes and it appears he went on to become a Card Maker and name one of his daughters Mary Caroline, so I'd say this is my man  :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:43 BST (UK)

Do you want any other baptisms for children of Edward and Caroline if I can find any??

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:48 BST (UK)
Any information you can find about this family would be wonderful! Thank you  :)
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:52 BST (UK)

Okay, I can only find one more child to this couple...

Baptism Register
St Saviour
Southwark

Caroline Lydia daughter of Edward and Caroline Mary Ann STONE of Saint Michael Royal.  Born Feb 3rd 1824 Baptised  Sept 12th 1824.  Father's Occupation Card Maker.

Will see what else I can find for you..

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 07:57 BST (UK)


The Familysearch Pilot site has...

England and Wales Nonconformist Register
Burial of Caroline Lydia STONE
24th July 1825
Southwark London

Might well be your Caroline Lydia....

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:02 BST (UK)
That's sad news that she died so young.
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:03 BST (UK)

Marriage Register
St Saviour
Southwark

Edward STONE  of this Parish, Bachelor  and  Caroline Mary Ann KELLEY  of this Parish, Spinster.
Married in this Church onn the 9th June 1818.
Groom signed his name and bride made her mark.
Witnesses were James KELLEY and George STONE and James ??

Cheers
Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:09 BST (UK)
Oooh, KELLEY - a new name for the tree! Thank you Karenlee, you are wonderful  :)
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:11 BST (UK)

Free BMD has this...

Caroline Mary Ann STONE died June Qtr 1848 St Lukes 2 229

So she should appear on the 1841 Census.

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:17 BST (UK)

This looks promising

Baptism Register
St Saviour
Southwark Surrey England

Caroline Mary Ann KELLY
12 June 1795
Father = James KELLY
Mother = Lydia

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 08:22 BST (UK)

Marriage Register
St George the Martyr
Southwark

James KELLY and Lydia BECK married by Banns April 4th 1790

Will see if I can find any other children for them when I come back from making dinner.

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 09:38 BST (UK)

Okay... from the Register of St Saviour Southwark

Baptisms

James Edward son of James KELLY Lighterman and Lydia Baptised 30th Jan 1791

Caroline Mary Ann daughter of James KELLY Lighterman and Lydia Baptised 12 July 1795

Henry William son of James KELLY LIghterman and Lydia Baptised 10 May 1801 Born 10 April 1801

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 12:23 BST (UK)
So is LIGHTERMAN the surname???
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 30 June 10 12:31 BST (UK)
No Lighterman is his occupation... he worked on small river boats.

Surnames should always be written in capital letters to distinguish them from other names.

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 12:32 BST (UK)
Actually I'm guessing Lighterman was his occupation after Googling the term:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightermen
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Wednesday 30 June 10 12:35 BST (UK)
Another interesting link that looks promising for more information about James and his ancestors:

http://www.parishregister.com/aboutstp.html#ancestors
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: karenlee on Friday 02 July 10 03:12 BST (UK)

Hi

Going back to the STONE family, I think this might be Edward STONE the Card Maker, father of Edward James.  Unfortunate but no marital status supplied ....


1851 Census England Surrey Bermondsey St James
HO107/1560/412/10
"Prince of Orange"
Mill Street

Edward STONE Visitor ?? 54 Paper Maker Kent Maidstone.

Karenlee
Title: Re: STONE, Edward James
Post by: Rose-Twig on Friday 02 July 10 07:18 BST (UK)
Thanks Karen.

Edward's would've been dead by this time as per your earlier posting:

Caroline Mary Ann STONE died June Qtr 1848 St Lukes 2 229


So perhaps this why there is no martial status listed? This would back Edward snr's birth year about 1797 which is similar to Caroline's, so based on that and the Paper Maker occupation, I'm pretty confident this is our man!