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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: shazs on Tuesday 29 June 10 11:33 BST (UK)
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Hi,
The plans to rebuild St Barnabas Church Erdington have been passed and I have noted that they propose to move some graves/ headstones.
Current graveyard plan:- http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80b7d680.pdf&unique=384189&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP
New graveyard plan :-http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80b7d679.pdf&unique=384189&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP
Design report:-http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80a54540.pdf&unique=384190&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP
All other documents relating to the planning can be found here:- http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/Application/FolderView.aspx?type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP&key=384189
Taken from the Archaology report:-
APPENDIX 2: Marked graves likely to be affected by the development (taken from St. Barnabas Church Graveyard Survey)
Plot no( s). Principal name( s) Year of death Monument type Notes
A328 John Stanley 1835 headstone laid flat
A332 David H. Skerritt 1939 kerbed monument displaced
A312 Sgt. J. W. Harris 1943 W.G (R. A. F); in situ
A313 Florence Maud Mary Allcock 1931 kerbed monument displaced
A314 John Joseph Chandlers 1957 kerbed monument in situ
A296 Eileen Copeland 1966 kerbed monument displaced
A297 Joan Simms 1959 kerbed monument displaced
A299 James Cartwright 1843 chest tomb in situ
A237 John Kestin Oran 1845 ledger in situ
A205 Mary Ann Moore 1950 headstone in situ
A190 John William George Greaves 1950 kerbed monument displaced - Swanwick C19 ledger in situ
A225 Frank Howard Whittington 1950
Elizabeth Whittington 1954 kerbed monument displaced
A210 Mary Houghton ? ledger in situ
A193 Thomas Henry Reynolds 1964 kerbed monument in situ
A194 Frederick Charles Green 1985 kerbed monument displaced
A195 Edna Minnie/ Henry G. Radford 1976 kerbed monument in situ
A174 William T. Austin 1931 kerbed monument displaced
A161 Herbert William Paxton 1947 l edger (small) in situ
A338/ A320/ A321/ A322 - - kerbed monuments in situ
Sharon
P.S Apologies if the above table is out of line I couldn't get it to publish how it looked on screen!
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Hi,
I reasearch aviation crash sites in Northumberland.
I have just about located the site of this chaps crash.
My interest is in the grave at St SBarnabas of:-
A312 Sgt. J. W. Harris 1943 W.G (R. A. F); in situ
Can you tell me if it has been damaged due to the building work?
regards
Chris D.
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Hi Chris,
From looking at the plans above I think your grave is affected. On the plan there is a W312A grave ( perhaps the W is for war?). This grave is at the front of the church and at the moment all the monuments have been removed. I think some will be put back but your grave might be where the new staircase entrance is going to be (see my photos below).
View of High Street side of Church - where grave W312A is positoned:-(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/St%20Barnabas%20Erdington%2018th%20June%202011/IMG_0211.jpg)
View of model showing changes to Church from High Street side, showing the new staircase entrance:-(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/St%20Barnabas%20Erdington%2018th%20June%202011/IMG_0207.jpg)
View from Church to the High Street showing that gravestones have been removed :-(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/St%20Barnabas%20Erdington%2018th%20June%202011/IMG_0208.jpg)
View from inside :-(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/St%20Barnabas%20Erdington%2018th%20June%202011/IMG_0202.jpg)
For anyone interested the next open day is on SATURDAY 3rd SEPTEMBER 2011 from 10.00am ~ 2.00pm. Access from the High Street.
Hope this helps you,
Sharon
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Chris I forgot to add this on :-
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/stbarnabasw312aandkey.jpg)
This is an extract from the new graveyard plan above. From the key to the plan it looks like grave W312A is of architectural/ historical interst - to be retained and a war grave. But as you can see it will be situated right at the top of the stairs into the entrance, so it remains to be seen if they keep it there.
I'll post more photos from the next open day and keep you updated.
Sharon
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Hi Sharon,
Taken from one of your links earlier.
Extract from the Design and Access Statement, St Barnabas Church, Erdington October 2009: Discussions and a site meeting have been held with Simon Wilson, Regional Supervisor, of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission in respect of the several War Graves within the churchyard. In particular, the grave and headstone of Sergeant J W Harris (grave ref: A312) has been discussed. This falls outside of the area of the proposed extension but within the new external paving. The accepted proposal is to raise the headstone to suit the new higher paving levels (approx. 500mm) and set it within a gravelled space for emphasis. The internment will be protected at the current ground level and need not be disturbed.
so it looks like plans are afoot to replace the head stone.
Chris
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Well spotted Chris, I'd read everything when I originally posted it but not this morning. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do.
Sharon
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Update photograph from open day on Saturday 3rd September, showing the new steel structure for the glass entrance / staircase:-
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e206/meatloafmaniac/St%20Barnabas%20Erdington%2018th%20June%202011/stbarnabasnewsteelstructureforstaircaseentrance.jpg)
THE NEXT OPEN DAY IS ON:
SATURDAY 17th FEBRUARY 2012
10.00am ~ 2.00pm
Access from the High Street.
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Hi all,
I haven't managed to get to any open days for St Barnabas this year but the good news is that it has been rededicated and will have Christmas services :-http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/services/ (http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/services/)
ITV had a litlle piece on it here:-http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2012-12-16/church-reopens-after-fire/ (http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2012-12-16/church-reopens-after-fire/)
There are open days in January to have a look around the church:-http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/about-us/open-days-january-2013/ (http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/about-us/open-days-january-2013/)
Merry Christmas,
Sharon
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Well better late than never I suppose, I've finally managed to see the inside of St Barnabas on a weekday although I hadn't got a decent camera with me!
(The grave photo of Sergeant Harris is for Chris.)
I am remembering WW1 military men who are buried at St Barnabas and adding to their life stories on https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/community/1059 (https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/community/1059) So if anyone has information about them either let me know or add information to their page yourself.
many thanks, Sharon