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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cornwall Lookup Requests => Cornwall => England => Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: dbath on Monday 28 June 10 02:32 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find information on an Elizabeth Tressadern, presumed to be born in Kea around 1748. She married a James Holman in Kea on 31 Aug 1769. Their first son was John Tresoderan Holman. Has anyone heard of this last name or something similar in the Kea area?
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Hi dbath,
Apparently Elizabeth signed TREZADERN
on the same day Thomasin TRESADDERN = Martin MAGOR (she also signed TREZADERN
15 May 1731 in Kenwyn Mr John HODGE = Thomasin TRESADREN
certainly more with similar names about Cornwall but these are the only marriages I am spotting in Kea and Kenwyn. Things like TRESIDDER could possibly even be considered.
Cheers Kris :)
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Thank you, Kris. I know there have to be multiple spellings since her son's middle name has to be linked to her maiden name. BTW, where did you find her signature and is there a way I can get a copy of it?
David
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Now this marriage may be of interest.
There is a John TRESADERN of Key = Elizabeth dau of Thomas HODGE 3 July 1731 Cubert
Key interesting, especially as I have now found
Thomasin TRESANDREN/TRESOUDRIN baptised 13 Nov 1736 Kenwyn father John
No luck with a possible baptism for Elizabeth.
may mean nothing of course as if this was Thomasin she was 33 in 1769 - but does seem to warrent further investigation.
Cheers Kris :)
You can order copies of parish records from the CRO
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14710
Cheers Kris :)
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Thank you. I lost control of the computer for a little bit, but found the Thomasine baptism right before I got off. That name is so unusual it at least has to be related (I think)! I also saw a John Tresandren and John Tresaudren in Kenwyn, so I will keep looking.
David
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On the map, it shows Kenwyn and Kea to be only 3.4 miles apart, so this makes the connection even more likely.
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I joined FindMyPast today and found Elizabeth, daughter of Nicolas and Elizabeth Tresaddern, baptized 13 Aug 1751 in Perranarworthal. Since they are so close, I think this is the same person. Although I took notes on Elizabeth before I realized I needed to document where I got my information, I believe the Kea location came from the marriage record, which is the only document I had about her. Like you, however, I am still very intrigued by the Thomasin. With the similar last name and location, I am pretty certain they must be related, especially when they chose to share a wedding date. Also, a Nicolas Tersadren was baptized on 29 Oct 1727 to John! Thank you for your help. This will definitely be something to work on.
David
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I am a descendent of John Tresadern brother to the above Elizabeth Tresadern Ch. 13 August 1751 Perranaworthal. Their parents were Nicholas Tresadern 29 Oct 1727 Illogan Cornwall, and an Elizabeth ?. It is thought that the father of Nicholas may possibly have been one John Tersadren Ch. 19 Jan 1704 in Reduth Cornwall, and that in turn his father may have been one Georg(e) Tresodran, m to Thamson ?.
Not much help to the original enquiry I'm afraid, but I do have a copy of the Will of Nicholas Tresadern dated 1759 from the Public Records Office leaving his estate to his wife Elizabeth, and his son John, and mine and my brother's transcription of the will. It seems that Nicholas was a moderately literate man and quite well off. I would be interested to know what Nicholas' wife Elizabeth's given name might have been. Illogan in Cornwall is nearer the N coast, and Perranaworthal is near the S coast, but at the narrowest point of the county, so they are only about 5 to 6 miles apart. Kea is about a quarter to a third of the way between the two, being nearest to Perranaworthal. Geoff
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Good to "meet" you, Geoff. I was looking in the Cornwall On-line Parish Clerks website and found that Elizabeth and John were baptized the same day. I wonder if they were twins or if their parents just waited to baptize one of them. While on the above site, I found a marriage between Nicholas Tresadan and Elizabeth Grose on 23 Jun 1751 in Stithians (Stythians). I believe this would be our family.
Elizabeth, the sister, married James Holman on August 31, 1769 in Kea. It would make sense that the Tresadderns were fairly wealthy as the Holmans were landowners and miners in the area.
To add to the information, according to Familysearch, John Tresadren married Mary ?? on July 6, 1726 in Illogan. I don't know if you have the ability to check that out, but it makes sense that it would be our John.
David
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I also found an Elizabeth TERSODRIEN who was buried in Perranarworthal on 26 April 1763. The Corwall OPC site says she was a widow. Since I saw that the Nicholas' will was dated about 1761, this would fit as Elizabeth Grose.
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More research from Familysearch:
George and Thamson (Thomasin?) had the following children:
Suzana Tresadren christened 2 Mar 1694 in Illogan
Jane Tresadron christened 6 May 1699 in Redruth
George Tresadron christened 11 Apr 1702 in Redruth
John Tersadren christened 19 Jan 1704 in Redruth
Thamson Tresodren christened 12 Jun 1707 in Redruth.
I could not find any marriage between George and Thamson or Thomasin, no matter what spelling I used for the last name.
I also found George Tresadderne christened 8 Dec 1667 to Richard Tresadderne in Illogan.
One other citation I found interesting was:
Ishmael Tresadren or Bauden christened 11 Jun 1762 in Illogan to John Tresadren and Cathr Bauden. (This presumably would have been after our John's death, but makes me wonder who he was.)
The Cornwall Records Office had the following documents in their catalogue:
AP/T/2498 Will of John Tresadren, yeoman, of Kea, dated 1743
AP/T/2272 Will of Thomasin Tresadren, widow, Kea, dated 1733
AP/T/1641 Will of Richard Tresaddern of Illogan, dated 1698
ARD/156/414 Citation, Elizabeth Tressadern, widow Nicholas of Perranarworthal, dated 1762
ARD/156/159 Citation, Thomas Tressadren of Constantine dated 1748
These should shed a lot of information on the family as well. However, I have not seen them, so don't know what is in them.
David