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We are looking for relatives by the name of Pittendrigh who originated from Fife in Scotland.
James Murray Pittendrigh was married to Hilda Frances Kennedy in 1907, they had two children, we'd like to know of their whereabouts and what became of them. J.Murray was my mother's grandfather, (of his second marriage to Agnes Lyddon) We know that he travelled widely and we've uncovered some interesting facts...
Thanks,
Claire
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The Argus, Melbourne 5 December 1935
The wedding notice has a photo, so here's the link
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11861396?searchTerm=pittendrigh
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The Argus, 7 April 1942
On April 6 at her home, St George's Road, Toorak, Melbourne, Hilda Frances, beloved wife of James Murray Pittendrigh, loving mother of David & Ken
At Christmas 1934 David became engaged to Ruth Rodgers.
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Electoral rolls show:
1924, 1931, 1936
James Murray (merchant) and Hilda Frances, (home duties) PITTENDRIGH
795 Malvern Rd, Toorak Vic
1943
James Murray (merchant) PITTENDRIGH at 5 St Georges Rd, Toorak
also in Toorak at 1 Grange Rd, Robert Henry (BA COMM) and Denise Elizabeth PITTENDRIGH
1949
James Murray (coy director) PITTENDRIGH also Olive May PITTENDRIGH
519a South Head Rd, Edgecliffe NSW
I can't see them after 1949.
This is the marriage for James and Olive:
1947 James Murray PITTENDRIGH = Olive May LLOYD at MANLY Reg no: 14830
Can't see a death for either in NSW (to 1979) although there is this death
1979 John PITTENDRIGH, parents John and Eva Rosa Reg No 622
Judith
You can see some of the residences on Googlemaps - if you click on the red teardrop thingy you can see a street view.
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36 notices for Pittendrigh on the Ryerson Index
http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
Annie
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thank you very much for taking the time to reply, we are particularly interested to know what became of David and Ken...
Claire
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David Murray Pittendrigh - died 1986 - late of Lindfield & Terrigal
David married Ruth Rogers 4 Dec 1935 St Johns Church, Toorak (she was beautiful - check out the photo in the Melbourne Argus (http://trove.nla.gov.au)
David went on to marry Kathleen May in 1953 in Sydney.
Ken married Miss Denise Clark in 8 Feb 1941 Melbourne.
This is all searchable on Trove, Claire - do give it a go - you'll probably find a lot more.
Dazey
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So did Olive May LLOYD die or divorce? (marriage shown in 1947).
Judith
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DAVID MURRAY was living in Benalla when he enlisted for ww2
PITTENDRIGH, DAVID MURRAY Army Service Number V390554
Date of Birth is given 21 Oct 1909 and Place of Birth ADELAIDE, SA
He Enlisted on 27 Jan 1942 and was at BENALLA, VIC Next of Kin PITTENDRIGH, RUTH. Date of Discharge was 10 Oct 1945
Sue
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Hi Clare,
Births in SA
PITTENDRIGH David Murray 21 Oct 1909 Adelaide Dist Ade 831 441 parents James Murray PITTENDRIGH and Hilda Frances KENNEDY
+ 1 in 1917
Robert's (Ken) service details
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=R&VeteranID=546008
Cheers Kris :)
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J.Murray was my mother's grandfather, (of his second marriage to Agnes Lyddon) CLARE
When was this marriage Clare?
Do you know?
Have I misunderstood. ???
I thought OLIVE was his second wife.
Sue
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Travelling from London 28 Oct 1921 aboard the NALDERA Ticketted to Melbourne
PITTENDRIGH James Murray 42 Merchant address in UK 28 Finsbury St EC2
+ Hilda Frances 44 + both sons
Travelling from London 5 Nov 1926 aboard the COMORIN Ticketted to Melbourne
PITTENDRIGH Jas Murray 47 Merchant address in UK 28 Finsbury St EC2
Cheers Kris :)
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St Mary Teddington
James Murray PITTENDRIGH Bachelor 27 Merchant of Vicarage House Teddington (father James PITTENDRIGH deceased Presbyterian minister) = KENNEDY Hilda Frances 29 spinster of Vicarage House Teddington (father Robert KENNEDY Deceased Gentleman) 14 July 1906 Teddington Parish Church Middlesex. Both signed
James Murray PITTENDRIGH Bachelor 28 Tea Valuer of York St Baker St (father John Kay PITTENDRIGH deceased sea captain) = Agnes Mary LYDDON Spinster 24 of 114 Lerham Gardens (father William Albert LYDDON deceased gentleman) 10 Apr 1919 St Philip Church Kensington both signed
As well as the information provided - even the signatures do not look the same
James M PITTENDRIGH = Sep 1/4 1948 N Surrey 5g 1134 Kathleen D EXSHAW or KEMP or PAULING
http://website.lineone.net/~hstjw/p30.htm
James Murray PITTENDRIGH died Hastings 1973 5h 1257 dob 20 Aug 1890
There is no way this can be the same person ???
Cheers Kris :)
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Canada
Oct 1931 Crossing from Canada to US
James Murray PITTENDRIGH 52 Managing Director Australian Scotch b Pittenween Scotland
Hilda Frances PITTENDRIGH 54 Home Duties Australian Scotch b Collingwood Australia
David Murray PITTENBOROUGH 21 Warehouseman Australian Scitch b Adelaide Australia
Port of arrival Vancouver BC - Visa No PV4 Transit Certificate 1 Sep 1831 - Melbourne
3 Jun 1919 Crossing from Canada to US
James Murray PITTENDRIGH 28 Valuer British Scotch last address Weston Super Mare Name and address of nearest relative Mrs R PITTENDRIGH Hill Rd Weston Super Mare.
Agnes Mary PITTENDRIGH 24 wife British British "
Travelling to Ceylon Columbo
Port of Arrival Quebec
Cheers Kris :)
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So is this the info we have about the James Murray PITTENDRIGH who came to Australia?
James Murray PITTENDRIGH married Hilda Frances KENNEDY in 1906, Teddington UK and had the two sons mentioned in Hilda's death notice - David and Ken. Described as a 'merchant' shown arriving in Melb 1921 and 1926, lived in Toorak (Melb), then Edgecliff, married Olive May LLOYD at Manly in 1947.
Do we have a death for him or for Olive?
Judith
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Hello all,
would you mind stating what interest you have with this bloodline? were you related?
This is becoming very curious, either there are two James Murray Pittendrighs or he was a bigamist!
(I shall post more information of his marriage to my great-grandmother at a later date, my mother has this information...)
The JMP of our bloodline is the nephew of David Murray 1829-1907 Merchant and politician, married to Rebecca...
I'll mail soon,
thank you all once again,
Claire
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Hi Claire,
No interest in this line at all, just trying to help with the lookup.
This is not bigamy - There are definitely two James Murray PITTENDRIGH's ten years apart in age and from different parts of Scotland.
1. b 1880 Pittenween Scotland to Rev James PITTENDRIGH and Helen (appears in Pittenween Fife with both his parents in 1881 and Anstruther Easter Fife with both parents in 1891)
= 1. Hilda Frances KENNEDY
2. Olive May LLOYD
2. b 1890 Edinburgh Scotland to John Kay PITTENDRIGH (a sea captain according to marriage record) and Ros[e/a] (appears in Edinburgh Scotland with his mother (no sign of father) in 1891 and 1901 census) They must have moved to Weston Super Mare at some stage as he lists his next of kin as Mrs R PITTENDRIGH Hill Road Weston Super Mare in 1919. I did find a John Kay PITTENDRIGH aboard a ship coming into Sydney a few times as a young lad "apprentice" in 1867 and 1869 so looks like he was at sea from an early age. By 1871 he is already 3rd mate at just 19 so looks like an interesting chap. BTW That marriage was in Cardiff Wales John Kay PITTENDRIGH = Rose Eliza ARLINGTON Sep 1/4 1883 11a 408. John Kay PITTENDRIGH was born 15 Apr 1852 and baptised 6 May 1852 Saint Nicholas Aberdeen parents William PITTENDRIGH and Jane KAY
= 1. Agnes Mary LYDDON
2. Kathleen Doreen PAULING
(I shall post more information of his marriage to my great-grandmother at a later date, my mother has this information
I did post the marriage details from the certificate in reply 12 Claire
Cheers Kris :)
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I don't have any connection with the family either, Claire. Like Kris, I've just been trying to help you with your query. Dazey.
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I am sorry Claire but you really seem to have the wrong line.
The JMP of our bloodline is the nephew of David Murray 1829-1907 Merchant and politician, married to Rebecca
I am afraid that does not appear to be the case. The chap who came to Australia is the MURRAY Connection. His mother was Helen MURRAY. If your line is from James Murray PITTENDRIGH and Agnes Mary LYDDON then it is not connected to these MURRAYS I am afraid as the MURRAY connection is through this James mother. Your James' mother was Rose Eliza ARLINGTON. I do fear someone has made a terrible mistake with this. Both of these lines can be followed in the census and through their marriages.
From Founders of Australia
We now pass on to the PITTENDRIGH section of this history.
This name represents one of the best families in Scotland. Since the thirteenth century the Pittendrigh family have been the owners of estates in Banffshire and, in fact, the locality bears the family name to the present day. There has never been a break in the long line of Pittendrigh through the centuries and many members of the family have been honoured members of the Church and professions. For example, we find one James Pittendrigh in, approximately, 1485, Abbott of Deer and, nearly four centuries later, another James Pittendrigh, M.A., was Minister of the United Presbyterian Church at Pittenween, in Fifeshire and retained such holding for thirty years until within a year of his death in 1893. This member of the family married a Miss Helen Murray, who was a sister of the well-known David and William Murray who came to Adelaide, South Australia, in the early fifties of last century and founded the since-famous House of D. & W. Murray Ltd. James Murray Pittendrigh, son of this union, joined the London office of the firm in 1896 and came to Adelaide in 1897 for the firm. In 1901 he joined the management of the Perth office and, since 1923, has been Managing Director of Australia at the principal office for Australia in Melbourne.
Mr. James Murray Pittendrigh married Miss Hilda Frances Kennedy of "Wonnaminta" Station and thus we see the connection between the pioneer families already mentioned and the Foundation of one of Australia's finest Merchantile Houses. From this union there have been two sons in David, who was born at Adelaide in 1909 and is now a grazier at "Werri Park'', Benalla, and Robert Kennedy who was born at Adelaide 1917.
Cheers Kris :)
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Kris, thank you so much, you are very kind to have researched this, I wasn't expecting such interest or such a result.
We too were thinking there were two men of the same name after being puzzled by the age differences and the marriages. We initially wondered if our grandfather had had a secret family somewhere! My grandmother (his daughter) and her two brothers are now deceased, we are constructing a family tree, and are having to dig for information ourselves.
It's all becoming clearer now, thanks to all of your input, thank you all.
Information on this bloodline has been vague to us as my grandmother and her brothers became estranged from their father.
Thanks again to you all,
kind regards,
Claire