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Title: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: alisonjar on Friday 25 June 10 18:17 BST (UK)
Please could anyone help.
I am looking for the birth place of
Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd who marriage in New Zealand in 1881.  I cannot find a record of their birth in New Zealand or UK (well not accurately anyway, Davies is a very common name).
Can anyone tell me how to find out if they both emigrated to New Zealand and where from.

Thank you
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 25 June 10 20:19 BST (UK)
Their marriage certificate/Intention to Marry to say how long in region/NZ??? Assume you haven't got these

What about death details, a death cert would give length of time in NZ
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 25 June 10 20:22 BST (UK)
How old were they at death, so you can give us approx birth years
Bye
Althea  :D
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Friday 25 June 10 20:43 BST (UK)
I couldnt find record of a death either - too many Davies.  I assumed that they were both born in 1860s.  The only son I have a record of Herman George Tankersley Davies was born approx 1881.

Davies is a Welsh name and it is possible Walter emigrated from Wales. 

Were censuses done in New Zealand - is it possible to trace them via these?
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 25 June 10 20:46 BST (UK)
Electoral rolls for men, women not included till 1893
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 25 June 10 20:53 BST (UK)
There are lots of Annies in 1893 but one
ANNIE ELIZABETH is a widow
Source   1893 Electoral Roll
Electorate Wellington
Surname   DAVIES Given Names Annie Elizabeth
Place of Residence   Boulcott St
Occupation   Widow
Nature Of Qualification   Residential
   
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 25 June 10 21:08 BST (UK)
Had you seen the story about Herman
http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=x-sL4iNQOgcC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=herman+tankersley+davies&source=bl&ots=fIuPSjuLoX&sig=UD_4oeZHdgJ5CXPWu8k2M-6xm38&hl=en&ei=BgwlTKe8JYP_8AbLytWyDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=herman%20tankersley%20davies&f=false

It said failed draper
I think there was a Walter draper at Karori cem..past the link now
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi Althea.
Thank you for the info.  Herman was an interesting character - he served time in prison in NZ in about 1916 due to business fraud.  He went on to become very successful and died a fairly wealthy man.  He appears to have had at least 3 wives, my sisters great grandmother being his 3rd.
I have not done any research in the past in Australia and New Zealand - it is fascinating.  Herman was born in NZ, lived in Australia and died in UK.
It is my adopted sister's family that I am currently researching. 
How do I research the electoral rolls in New Zealand for Walter Davies?
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 12:07 BST (UK)
Thank you for the electoral roll information about Annie Elizabeth Davies, her husband Walter must have died relatively young.  I wonder if Herman had any siblings - he would have been only about 11/12 in 1893.

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi Ali

Herman certainly was a colourful character (I've just read the info presented on your Australian thread.)   :)

As it happens, he did have siblings - 2 sisters.

NZ Births

1882 - Evelyn Katherine

1888 - Dainty Winnefred
- b. 5 January 1888   

[Parents:  Annie Elizabeth and Walter. ]

I've traced Dainty's birth to Timaru (in the South Island) - and this in turn led to finding further information for Walter.

Birth notice > >  (at PapersPast website)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Search "by Region" >> click on "Canterbury" to find ...

"Timaru Herald" - 7 January 1888 - Births - page 2

More on Walter, in next post.

~  Lu

Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 13:05 BST (UK)
Walter DAVIES

Again at PapersPast website :

"Timaru Herald" - 20 April 1892 - Page 3 -- Column 2

Notice of a forthcoming auction of the property of Walter DAVIES.    [A footnote states that Mr. DAVIES has left Timaru.]
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"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 14 May 1892 - Page 3 -- Col 1

An advertisement shows that Walter DAVIES has been admitted to a business partnership (clothing manfacture).

"Evening Post" - 21 January 1893 - Page 4 -- Col  2

Dissolution of the partnership between William Stevens Pascoe and Walter DAVIES, clothing manufacturers (Wellington) :
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 13:05 BST (UK)
Thank you Lucy.

I'm on it...................
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi again

So I think you can be confident that the death found by Althea ( Reply # 6) ... is the right Walter DAVIES .  ;)

Karori Cemetery, Wellington
CH ENG  -  Plot 181

DAVIES - Walter
Age 30 *   [See note]   Edit:  Should be 36 years
Occupation:  Draper
Buried :  20 April 1893


[Note:   The NZ Death Index shows he was 36 years of age (30 yrs. on cemetery record, appears to be an error).  ]

Link to Cemeteries database :

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/search.php

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 13:41 BST (UK)
Thank you again Lu.
I cant keep up with you.

I have ordered Walter m Dodd marriage certificate to see if I can find details of both their fathers, and I have now ordered Walter's death certificate.
This genealogy business costs far too much.

The business between Pascoe and Davies didnt work out for long did it?  I assume that Walter continued on his own although he was dead 3 months later!!!

Thank you again, I am so grateful and so excited.
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 13:43 BST (UK)

I am looking for the birth place of
Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd who marriage in New Zealand in 1881.
Can anyone tell me how to find out if they both emigrated to New Zealand and where from.

Thank you
Ali

Haven't managed to find passenger lists which show when these people came to New Zealand (unfortunately not all lists are available).

Ideally, their marriage record should give you further information on places of birth and parents names.  These details were recorded for NZ marriages from the year 1881.

[If ordering the marriage record, be sure to request a "printout' of same - this gives the maximum amount of info (and is the less expensive option, also  :D ) ]

http://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home

Or, as Althea has suggested, you may like to firstly request a look-up here, for the Intention to Marry notice (ITM) ?
See Resources section of this board for further details.
[It's not a substitute for the actual marriage record, but may offer helpful info.]

~  Lu

 
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 13:49 BST (UK)
Ooops  ... seems our posts, crossed. :D

Sorry  ... didn't mean to bog you down with all of this ... just read it at your leisure  ... and fire back any questions you might have.

~   Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 13:55 BST (UK)
PS :   ;)

Haven't found the death of Annie Elizabeth yet.
It may be that she re-married.    Exploring a few possibilities.

The daughter born 1888, married in 1918.

NZ Marriage

Dainty Winnefred DAVIES - James Frederick MONTAGUE - 1918

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 14:07 BST (UK)
I have so enjoyed being "bogged".  Thank you again.  My sister is going to be amazed by all this information and I cant wait to tell her.



I cant remember now - are we sure that Walter Davies was notborn in New Zealand??

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 26 June 10 16:29 BST (UK)

I cant remember now - are we sure that Walter Davies was notborn in New Zealand??

Ali

Hi Ali

No, we're not sure of anything.   :D   And as we have no names for Walter's parents, we can't go in search of them just yet.     It's important (especially with a surname like DAVIES) to obtain verification from official records (marriage or death -- or both) to ensure you are following up on the correct family.

But do let us know when you receive the records ... and we'll do our best to help further.   :)

~  Lu   
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 26 June 10 20:40 BST (UK)
For Lu..
Lu did you see that school record for Winnefred Dainty 1901 at Dunedin..how odd such an unusual combination of names but birth dates are completely different. But it did have parents dead

So suppose couldn't rule out that Annie went back south or its another relation who used important names
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 21:32 BST (UK)
Hi
I found an article about the history of Aspro (Herman George Davies, Walter's son, was involved) and it stated that Herman's parents both died when he was young and he was brought up by an uncle!

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Saturday 26 June 10 21:33 BST (UK)
The same article also stated that Herman George Davies' parents were both immigrants from England!
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 27 June 10 02:23 BST (UK)
For Lu..
Lu did you see that school record for Winnefred Dainty 1901 at Dunedin..how odd such an unusual combination of names but birth dates are completely different. But it did have parents dead

So suppose couldn't rule out that Annie went back south or its another relation who used important names
Bye
Althea

Hi Althea

No, I didn't see that record.      Can you supply the details please ?   :)     If parents were dead, was there a guardians' name given on the record ??

Cheers
   ~  Lu

PS:    Birth date for Dainty W.  - there was a birth announcement published Jan. 1888 (Timaru) - and on checking birth index, the date is an exact match for this girl.

Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 27 June 10 03:05 BST (UK)
Hi Lu
There are earlier Wellington SRecords for DAVIES Dainty Winnifred 1894&5 WEllington birthdate 27 Aug 1887

The Dunedin ones is Birthdate 05 Jan 1888
DAVIES Winifred Dainty
Admission Date 9 Aug 1901
Parent / Guardian Dead
Address 12 Scotland Street
Then says left School altogether
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 27 June 10 03:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Althea.    :)

I don't have "hands-on" access to school records - need to do look-ups at library  ...  but will follow up on this.

I think this Dainty in 1894/5 is same child, just that birthdate is wrong (not unknown on some of the school records.)  ;)

Cheers

  ~   Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 27 June 10 06:14 BST (UK)
Yes I would have thought same, strange though they got the 1887 one on 2 different records
Do you think the other daughter died..can't see her
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Sunday 27 June 10 10:22 BST (UK)
I found death of Evelyn Katherine Davies at 9 weeks - 1883/477.

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Sunday 27 June 10 12:49 BST (UK)
More advise please.
How would I find the record of Herman George Davies conviction of 2 years hard labour in NZ in about 1915-1917? 
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 27 June 10 12:55 BST (UK)
Hi Ali

Have just found (what I hope is), your DODD family.  ;)
It's all a bit complex so need time to sift through and sort it out.    Will try and post some info shortly (though it's near midnight here in NZ) -- if not, then tomorrow.

~   Lu   
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Sunday 27 June 10 13:06 BST (UK)
Thank you Lu.  I am sorry to keep you so busy.
Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 27 June 10 13:09 BST (UK)

Yes I would have thought same, strange though they got the 1887 one on 2 different records
Do you think the other daughter died..can't see her
Bye
Althea

Hi Althea

Looked at the school records this arvo.    I think probably that the birthdate -- 27 August 1887 -- is a clerical error (and has also been carried over to records in the following year).

Sure, the birth year is given as 1887 -- but the "last day" entry is < strangely > , also the 27 August (in 1894).
What do you reckon ?   :)

[I've got a few of these sorts of anomalies with some of my families -- one where a brother's birthdate has been given for his sister's school record !   :D ]

Great that you found that record though ... it's led me to finding a whole lot more for this family ... thanks.   :)

~   Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 27 June 10 13:13 BST (UK)

More advise please.
How would I find the record of Herman George Davies conviction of 2 years hard labour in NZ in about 1915-1917? 
Ali

Hi Ali

Will tackle this query later (I'm not quite sure about access to records in that time frame -- need to check it out further).  :)

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 28 June 10 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi Ali

Just to let you know, info is "still coming" ... I just didn't manage to get it done as hoped, today.   :)

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Monday 28 June 10 18:55 BST (UK)
Dear Lu

Don't worry - I'm just so grateful for your help.

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 15:56 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY  - in New Zealand

Hi Ali

Firstly, must give credit to Althea for having found a school record for young Herman DAVIES, which in turn has led to the discovery of his mothers' family in NZ.  :)

In February 1888, (and this was shortly after the birth of his sister Dainty in Timaru), Herman DAVIES (d.o.b. 14 August 1881), was admitted to the Arthur Street School in Dunedin (some distance from Timaru, where he'd been previously).
Walter DAVIES shows on the record as being Herman's guardian ... but the address given -- "c/- Mr. H. DODD, Scotland Street",  -- was a vital clue.

"Mr. H. DODD" was not too difficult to locate ... but better still, there were two persons of exactly the same name, who have proved to be the father and brother of Annie Elizabeth (DAVIES) DODD.

I'll give you cemetery record details shortly - they contain a few errors though, so it is necessary to firstly explain the different relationships between members of this DODD family.

~   Lu
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 16:28 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Annie Elizabeth DODD arrived in New Zealand as a young girl(on an as yet unknown date), with her parents and two ? siblings.

An online index of marriages, shows that Annie married Walter DAVIES at the Knox Presbyterian Church in Dunedin on 15 February 1881.   She was aged 23 years (so born c. 1858) - Walter was 25 years.

Annie's parents were Herman (a.k.a. Henry Herman) DODD and Bethany (nee TANKERSLEY).    (Surprise  ::)  :D).

Two further children were born to the couple in New Zealand.

1865 - DODD - Eva Blanche

1867 - DODD - Alfred Ernest
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Other children :

Herman Tankersley DODD - bc  1862

Catherine Tankersley DODD - bc 1864


(Birthplaces unknown ) :
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 17:12 BST (UK)
DODD Family

Sometimes the online cemetery records in NZ (and particulary those on the Dunedin database), allow us to learn a persons' birthplace and how many years they have spent in New Zealand.   Unfortunately though, no such luck in the case of the wider DODD family.   :(

Bethany DODD (mother of Annie Elizabeth) died at Dunedin on 1 February 1885 aged nearly 59 years.  (bc 1826)

Her death notice thankfully is helpful - it tells that she was the d/o Robert TANKERSLEY of Gainsborough, ENGLAND.  

I don't have access to Census transcripts but see that the indexes (at "findmypast") show a Bethany TANKERSLEY b. 1827 residing in Gainsborough (Lincolnshire) in 1841 / 1851.
[Have not found anything conclusive on UK census for Herman  / Henry Herman DODD. ]

Link to funeral notice for Bethany DODD  >>

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Otago Witness" - 7 February 1885 - DEATHS

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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 17:25 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Herman (Henry Herman*) DODD
(father of Annie Elizabeth and husband of Bethany) died at Dunedin on 17 December 1906 - aged 80 years - (bc 1826).

[* There are a number of references (newspapers mainly) which refer to him as Herman Henry or H.H. DODD.]

After Bethany's death, Herman re-married - at the age of 67 ... and fathered two more children !!  ;)

Marriage (from Presbyterian Church index)

Herman DODD - 67 years
Catherine McASKILL - 32 years


Date:   21 March 1893
at Chalmers (Presbyterian) Church, Dunedin

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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 17:33 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Children of Herman DODD (bc 1826) and Catherine McASKILL :

NZ Births

1894 - DODD - John Henry

1895 - DODD - Mabel Isabella


Parents:   Catherine and Herman DODD
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Herman DODD (d. 1906) is buried (at Dunedin) with his first wife Bethany.

Death notice for Herman  (at PapersPast)   >>

"Otago Witness" - 19 December 1906 - DEATHS

[Catherine DODD (2nd wife of Herman) died 11 June 1948, aged 92 years.   Interestingly, addresses for Herman (and Catherine - 42 years after his death), both show "12 Scotland Street" -- which was also the address given on Dainty's school record in 1901.  ]
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 17:58 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Herman Tankersley DODD (bc 1862) - son of Bethany and Herman DODD -- died at Dunedin on 26 November 1899 aged 37 years.

NZ Marriage

Herman Tankersley DODD - May Wood LONG - 1897

[Note:   Herman T. may have been the uncle who raised Herman G.T. DAVIES  ? ]

NZ Births

1898 - DODD - Eva Mary

1899 - DODD - Winifred May  (died 1902)


Parents:  May Wood and Herman Tankersley DODD
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 18:12 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Death notice for Herman Tankersley DODD  >>

"Otago Witness" - 30 November 1899 - DEATHS

[Note:   The notices states that Herman T. was the oldest son of H. DODD of Scotland Street, Dunedin. ]
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Notice for Winifred May DODD (d/o Herman T. and May) >>

"Otago Witness" - 21 May 1902 - DEATHS

[ ... grand-daughter of "H.H. DODD of Scotland Street. ]

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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 18:47 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Eva Blanche DODD (bc 1865) - d/o Herman DODD and Bethany (nee TANKERSLEY).

[IGI also has a submitted entry, confirming parents names.]

Eva Blanche DODD died at Dunedin on 6 May 1888 - aged 21 years. *
[* Age at death is at odds with year of her birth registration 1865  ?? ]

She is buried with her nephew (Oswald DODD) and older sister Catherine.

Not able to find a death notice.  :(

Eva Blanche is mentioned as a prize winner at Middle District School, Dunedin.

"Otago Witness" - 11 December 1875 - page 10 - School Exams.
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 29 June 10 19:04 BST (UK)
Hi Lu
Looks like you are very busy completing whole family tree  :o
 ;D Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 29 June 10 19:07 BST (UK)
Hi Ali
when you are back online wonder how much of your original query has been sorted
Quote
Please could anyone help.
I am looking for the birth place of
Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd who marriage in New Zealand in 1881.  I cannot find a record of their birth in New Zealand or UK (well not accurately anyway, Davies is a very common name).
Can anyone tell me how to find out if they both emigrated to New Zealand and where from.

Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 19:20 BST (UK)
Hi Lu
Looks like you are very busy completing whole family tree  :o
 ;D Bye
Althea

Yes, well it's all info found along the way - seems something of a waste, not to let Ali have it.   ;D   Wouldn't you agree ?   :D
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 19:43 BST (UK)
Hi Ali
when you are back online wonder how much of your original query has been sorted
Quote
Please could anyone help.
I am looking for the birth place of
Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd who marriage in New Zealand in 1881.  I cannot find a record of their birth in New Zealand or UK (well not accurately anyway, Davies is a very common name).
Can anyone tell me how to find out if they both emigrated to New Zealand and where from.

Bye
Althea

Just adding my 20 cents worth.   ::)  :D

... Birthplaces not yet found.     DAVIES is rather a difficult one to tackle until names of Walter's parents are known.  ::)

Some progress at least made in finding that Annie Elizabeth DODD's parents arrived here also, and lived in Dunedin.   English record search has found Annie's mother's roots.
No marriage yet found for Annie's parents.
It seems possible that there could be a connection to Scotland ??

If there's an objection to me posting what appears to be "a whole family tree", then I'll happily delete the lot !   :D
[I work on the principle that "snippets" of information, most often build up to provide extra clues and clues (generally) equal, "results". ]  :)

~  Lu

Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 29 June 10 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi Lu
there was no objection
just wondered if we had got sidetracked and needed to look at what info was first requested.
Whole familytrees are great but sometimes if we give links formore info it can help others build up skills too

So short answer if you have the time to keep making the posts with new info keep them going  ;)
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:06 BST (UK)
Hi you two.
Just got in and I am absolutely gobsmacked.  I cannot believe not only how much information you have gathered Lu but how detailed.  The newspapers in England usually only cover the death/school exams info for the upper class and important citizens.  What you have found is amazing.
I am so so grateful.
I will start searching for details of Annie E Dodd's family in Uk.  I vaguely remember seeing details for a Annie Elizabeth Dodd in London so will look at that again.
I am sure you have covered everything I was looking for (apart from the details I hope to gain from certs. ordered).  I admit to have found it compulsive and have even been calling into rootschat hoping to see a message all day at work. 
I so wish my sister could be here to see this - she lives 200 miles away from me and doesnt have a computer.  It will be difficult to explain all this over the phone.
 
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:08 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Alfred Ernest DODD (b. NZ - 1868)

[Parents names not given on birth index but thought to be son of Herman DODD and Bethany (nee TANKERSLEY).  Family connection ? :  Alfred's infant son (Oswald) shares a burial plot with two daughters of Herman and Bethany. ]

NZ Marriage

At Knox Presbyterian Church, Dunedin
- 12 September 1889

Alfred Ernest DODD
Catherine Emma CRAWFORD
* (*  CRAWFURD)
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NZ Births

1890 - DODD - Alfred James

1892 - DODD - Oswald Crawsford (Crawford ??)
- died 1893
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Alfred James DODD (b. 1890) died WW1 (further details at Commonwealth War Graves Commission website.)
At this time, his parents were living in Wellington.

Catherine Emma DODD - died December 1924 and is buried at Karori Cemetery, Wellington.   Cemetery records notes "married".    [Have not found a death in NZ for Alfred Ernest DODD.]

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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:08 BST (UK)
There is an NZSG member researching the TANSKERLEY/DODD family
they have submitted first family forms and pedigree forms
If you are not a member, emailing NZSG they may still give you the info for a small research fee  ???
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:09 BST (UK)
Thank you again.
Ali x
Attached is a photo of myself and my younger sister Stephanie so you have some idea of who you have been working so hard for>...
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:22 BST (UK)
Is there anyway of finding out occupations of the Dodds family?  I know Herman G T Davies was a draper (amongst other things!) and so was his father (for a while at least).
I am so excited - thank you so much Lu.

I have been researching my own family for years and have never found out the amount and detail of info. that you have found for my sisters family, so quickly and so accurately.

Ali x
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:32 BST (UK)
Hi Lu
there was no objection
just wondered if we had got sidetracked and needed to look at what info was first requested.
Whole familytrees are great but sometimes if we give links formore info it can help others build up skills too


Hi Althea

I don't see this as "getting sidetracked".   :D
[Hell's bells  ... there's an awful lot of "unnecessary stuff" that gets dumped in threads here that really does deserve to be deemed "sidetracking" !  ::) ]

I do agree it is often helpful to offer assistance so that people can enhance their research skills - and that especially applies to fellow NZ'ers, researching in NZ !!!

I'm happy to add additional detail for those researching from the other side of the world, and who are likely to be unfamiliar with NZ records.
(And that of course is my prerogative.  ;))

  ~   Lu

  
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:34 BST (UK)
I am still reading and re-reading the info.
If Annie Dodd married Walter in Feb 1881 and Herman was born in Aug 1881, I am guessing that she was pregnant when walking down the aisle!!
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:36 BST (UK)

Is there anyway of finding out occupations of the Dodds family? I know Herman G T Davies was a draper (amongst other things!) and so was his father (for a while at least).
I am so excited - thank you so much Lu.


Hi Ali

Yes  ... I have  all that information for you ... will add it shortly.   :)     [ Bear with me ... I keep getting "sidetracked".   ;D ]

Nice photo.   :)

~  Lu

Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:38 BST (UK)
Thank you Lu.
It is the "little" details that make all the difference and how you get to know the family.  I have traced my mother's side of my family back to the 13th century but it is the trivial details of the most recently born ancestors that are the most exciting - what they did for a living?, where they moved to and how?, record of service at war and even better school records and photos of where they lived and what they did on a day to day basis.  I was more excited to find out that my great grandmother was a "match girl" in the slums of Manchester that finding that my mother had royal blood ( v. diluted of course).
Ali x
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 20:47 BST (UK)

I am still reading and re-reading the info.
If Annie Dodd married Walter in Feb 1881 and Herman was born in Aug 1881, I am guessing that she was pregnant when walking down the aisle!!

Hee, hee ... isn't it great when you get actual dates and can work these things out.   ;D      Wonder what our rellies would make of this ... knowing all these years later that we were 'airing their dirty laundry'.

I'm with you "that the little details" do make a difference.
[Am trying to deliver this in a format so you can just print it out and pick over it all, later.  ;)   It's probably just the "tip of the iceberg"  ... I'm sure there'll be much more to discover.  ;) ]
Glad to hear you've made those wonderful discoveries in your own family tree.

~  Lu
                                   much more to come     >>
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 21:00 BST (UK)
I know - I found illegitimate children, incest, bigamy and suicide in my stepfathers tree - all in the same village - fabbie!

Thank you - all your info. is so clear - I got so excited that I forgot to hook up the printer and have been scribbling like mad..........

If nothing else this is a great distraction from the football!!

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 21:08 BST (UK)
Ah yes   ... now, drapers in the family.   ;)

This next lot of info is for Catherine T. DODD - Annie's sister.

NZ Marriage

Catherine Tankersley DODD - 25 years
William Stevens PASCOE *  ;)  -  24 years  


married at Knox Presbyterian Church, Dunedin
1 January 1889  :

[*  Mr. PASCOE above, is of course the guy mentioned earlier in the thread, as having been in business in Wellington with Walter DAVIES ... so he was also his brother-in-law ! ]

NZ Births

1892 - PASCOE - Bethany Eva

Parents:  William Stevens and (Catherine) indexed as "Kate Jan Kersley" (obviously a mis-transcription of "Tankersley" ?)
[Note:   Catherine died in Australia - her husband had died earlier in NZ.    Catherine also had another daughter - who may or may not have been William's  child. ?  Will add details shortly. ]
                                                                   more  >>





Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 21:24 BST (UK)
  ...  just digressing ... and getting back to the subject of "drapers"  ... I think very possibly this occupation went back beyond Herman DAVIES ?

This from an index of early Dunedin Electoral rolls and Trade Directories  >> 

1868

DODD - Mrs. H.

Draper  -   George Street, Dunedin 
     ;)
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also  ...

1864   (Harnett's Directory)

DODD - H.   -  George Street

Butcher - Dunedin
     ???

and  ...

1893

DODD - Alfred Ernest
Coachbuilder
Residence:  Scotland Street



[PapersPast has an article or two about a fire in Dunedin (can't remember the year) ...  a Mr H. DODD's butcher's shop was destroyed ? ]




Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Tuesday 29 June 10 21:50 BST (UK)
I saw the 1841 and 1851 UK censuses for the Tankersley family at Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.
Bethany's father Robert Tankersley was a joiner but unfortunately died in 1850.  In 1851 Bethany was living with her mother and one sister - she was a straw bonnet maker.  Her mother died in c.1862.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 22:16 BST (UK)
  ... straw bonnet maker  ...

Here's "Mrs. H. DODD" (most likely to be Bethany) in another Directory listing.   ;)

1870-71  (Wise's)

DODD - Mrs H.
Milliner and Draper
George Street, Dunedin

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There were some other listings under "Henry DODD" (suspect this is Herman Henry? ) also  ...

1878 & 1880

DODD - Henry
Leasehold : George Street - shop and dwelling

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

1887 & 1890

DODD - Henry
Settler
Residential:   Scotland Street

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

and this one back in 1861

DODD - Henry
Electoral claim
"Otago Colonist" (newspaper ?) - 12 April 1861    ???
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Possibly 1861 Henry (is Herman Henry) ?
Have also just noticed a birth registered in 1862 for a "Catherine DODD".  :-\   [Parents names not on index and can't tell, where this birth was registered. ]  So maybe the DODDs did arrive around this time ?
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 29 June 10 22:54 BST (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Catherine Tankersley PASCOE (nee DODD) - bc 1864

Catherine's husband William Stevens PASCOE died in NZ in 1913 - aged 47 years and is buried at Linwood Cemetery in Christchurch.
Cemetery link  >>

http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/cemeteries
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Catherine Tankersley PASCOE died in Sydney, Australia on 22 December 1954.   Her ashes were returned to NZ and buried in a family plot at Dunedin in 1955.   

Catherine's  funeral notice appeared in the "Sydney Morning Herald" 30 December 1954 - (page 14).
Link to Australian newspaper website can be found in Resources section of R/Chat Australia board.

Her two daughters' were mentioned in the notice - bit hard to read, but looks like "Victtorine / Victorine"... surname is LANAGHAN;  and Eva (Bethany Eva ?) (Mrs B E HUNGERFORD).
[Marriages for daughters can be found on the New South Wales (Australia) online BDM.  "Victtorine" as Edith Victtrine ? married 1st in 1926 using the surname PASCOE.  For a later marriage (to LANAGHAN - 1948) she uses the surname TANKERSLEY ???.  ]
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  ... will be back soon with the Dunedin cemetery info and explanation of same.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 30 June 10 03:43 BST (UK)
Here's the link to the Dunedin Cemeteries database  >>

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/

Click on "Cemeteries Search" .

[They have a note there regarding "accuracy of records". ]

You'll see there are 3 records for "Herman (and variants) DODD".

The one labelled as "Herman F. DODD" would seem to relate to the disinterrment of the Herbert who died in 1899 ?
[There doesn't appear to have been a "3rd Herman DODD" who died in New Zealand in 1902.  The record gives dates of death and burial but is probably in error ?   1902 is the year that Herman's wee daughter Winifred died, and he has been re-buried with her.   The letter "F" in the name I think should probably be "T" (for Tankersley) ?  ]

*  Bethany Tankersley DODD - record shows her as "male".   :D

*   The "Elizabeth Jane WALTON" buried with Herman jun. and Winifred May DODD, is the sister of Herman's wife, May Wood DODD (nee LONG).   [Elizabeth Jane LONG (m. Walton) b. 1879 - d/o Mary and Robert LONG.]

*  Catherine DODD (d.1948) is the 2nd wife of Herman DODD Snr.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 30 June 10 04:41 BST (UK)
Hi Ali

Just to finish up with, some info on Annie Elizabeth.

She did re-marry after the death of Walter.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

LADD  -  DAVIES

On 1st  July 1895 at Wellington, Henry LADD ......
to Annie Elizabeth DAVIES, relict of the late Walter, and eldest daughter of H. H. DODD, Esq., of Dunedin.


Full text at ...
"Otago Witness" - 5 September 1895 - Marriages page 27

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

But not able to find her death on the NZ index ??  [Have tried "LADD" and all manner of variants ... plus DAVIES (and var.].

The closest I've got is  >>

1899 - DAVIS [sic] - Annie - 42 years    (bc  1857 )    ???

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

  ~  Lu



Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 30 June 10 05:50 BST (UK)

More advise please.
How would I find the record of Herman George Davies conviction of 2 years hard labour in NZ in about 1915-1917? 
Ali


Hi Ali

Wasn't Herman George DAVIES actually convicted and sentenced, in Australia  (January 1915) ???

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Wednesday 30 June 10 19:49 BST (UK)
Thanks again Lu.
Yes, you are right, Herman G T Davies was convicted and sentence in Australia, I was reading the court case today.  I will see what I can find in the Australian records.

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 04 July 10 04:29 BST (UK)
Omitted to post this earlier ... but it may be of interest ?

Archives New Zealand (Dunedin) office, hold the following probate record.

DODD - Henry Hermann - Dunedin - Draper - 1906

[Unfortunately we do not have anybody doing look-ups in the Dunedin area at present, but the record is available directly from Archives NZ (Dunedin) - cost is about $20 to $25 NZ.]

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 04 July 10 04:47 BST (UK)
At PapersPast  ...

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

"Otago Witness"  - 8 May 1907 - "Deceased Persons' Estates - page 38

[Article gives names of sizeable estates being dealt with by the Stamp Department (stamp duties being applied ? ). ]

Otago Region

Henry DODD -  L 21,139
  (twenty one thousand, one hundred and thirty nine pounds).

[I'm pretty sure the above relates to Herman (Henry Herman(n) ) DODD.   He died mid-December 1906, so it's reasonable to expect that matters concerning his estate, were still be dealt with in May 1907.] 

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: alisonjar on Sunday 04 July 10 16:54 BST (UK)
Dear Lu
Thank you for the info.  and thank you for all your hard work, I really appreciate it, especially keeping me on the straight and narrow.
Ali x
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Kik on Tuesday 26 April 11 03:41 BST (UK)
Hi to all those writing about the Davies, Tankersley and Dodd families,

Imagine my surprise to log on and find people talking about my family and filling in the links that I have not been able to find before. I am Herman Dodd's great grand daughter (Through his second marriage to Catherine MacAskill) My grandfather, John Henry Dodd, only passed on snippets about his half brothers and sisters and as time has gone on there are less and less people still alive who know very much. An uncle of mine had done quite a bit of research but there were still holes. I would love to make contact with whoever was making progress on the Dodd/ Tankersley connection and maybe share what I have.
Kik
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Kik on Thursday 28 April 11 00:03 BST (UK)
Hi,
Not sure if you found out your answers to where Annie Elizabeth Dodd was born. I have here their wedding notice
"16 February 1881   
Annie Elizabeth Dodd 23 milliner spinster, born Victoria, presently of Dunedin, usually of Timaru
Daughter of Henry -draper and Bethany (Tankersley)
to Walter Davies 25 -draper born England, presently of Dunedin, usually of Timaru, son of Daniel (Confectioner) and Elizabeth(nee Brown)
Witnesses: Mary Weatherburn
                   Herman T Dodd -draper, Scotland st
celebrated at the house of Henry Dodd, Scotland St"

Hope this helps

Kik
               
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 28 April 11 00:26 BST (UK)
Hi Kik

  .... and welcome.    :)

So pleased to hear that you've found this thread helpful.

[I'm just going to go back over the postings here, to refresh my memory. ]   :D

~  Lu
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: alisonjar on Thursday 28 April 11 17:50 BST (UK)
Hi there.
I was researching this family for my adopted sister and have saved most of it on my ancestry.co.uk family tree.   

Ali
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Kik on Thursday 28 April 11 21:06 BST (UK)
Hi Ali,

Is there any way I could have a look at your findings on your tree to see if it will fill any gaps for me. I would really appreciate it.
Thanks
Christine
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd
Post by: pasclaw on Sunday 12 January 14 04:20 GMT (UK)
DODD FAMILY

Catherine Tankersley PASCOE (nee DODD) - bc 1864

Catherine's husband William Stevens PASCOE died in NZ in 1913 - aged 47 years and is buried at Linwood Cemetery in Christchurch.
Cemetery link  >>

http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/cemeteries
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Catherine Tankersley PASCOE died in Sydney, Australia on 22 December 1954.   Her ashes were returned to NZ and buried in a family plot at Dunedin in 1955.   

Catherine's  funeral notice appeared in the "Sydney Morning Herald" 30 December 1954 - (page 14).
Link to Australian newspaper website can be found in Resources section of R/Chat Australia board.

Her two daughters' were mentioned in the notice - bit hard to read, but looks like "Victtorine / Victorine"... surname is LANAGHAN;  and Eva (Bethany Eva ?) (Mrs B E HUNGERFORD).
[Marriages for daughters can be found on the New South Wales (Australia) online BDM.  "Victtorine" as Edith Victtrine ? married 1st in 1926 using the surname PASCOE.  For a later marriage (to LANAGHAN - 1948) she uses the surname TANKERSLEY ???.  ]
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Just for a bit of extra info and to clear up some justifiable confusion:
Catherine's two daughters were Bethany Eva (Eve to the family) and Edith Victtrine (Victtrine to the family; note that odd double-T spelling is correct).  However, she also had a son, Ralph William Pascoe (my grandfather), born in Adelaide 22/10/1900, d.5/9/1959 in Sydney.  Victtrine and Eve married two brothers - Victtrine to Merlin Herbert Hungerford, and Eve to Kenneth Stuart Hungerford.  (Victtrine's subsequent marriage to John Herbert Lanaghan has her name at marriage as Edith Victtrine Hungerford in the BDM records; she and Merlin had divorced in 1938.)  And to further the confusion, Eve and Ken had a daughter Bethany Elizabeth (18/1/1925-25/12/2013, known as Elizabeth to the family), who was therefore also B.E. Hungerford until her marriage to Kris van Veen in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Kik on Tuesday 18 March 14 04:00 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm jumping back into the Davies and Dodd tree following the latest posting by Pasclaw with some updates of the Catherine Pascoe (Dodd) side of the family siblings. As I've said before my knowledge of my grandfathers half siblings is scant and therefore my tree on that side runs out early. I have been absolutely fascinated finding out about that scoundrel Herman / George Davies - brilliant stuff. I have been able to piece together lots of loose ends. Not sure how many more 'holes' you have to fill but maybe I have a few answers for you from my research. Pasclaw I would love some more details of the next generations after Bethany Eve, Edith Victtrine and your grandfather Ralph William Pascoe.
Some titbits from my tree notes of the other siblings of Catherine Tankersley Pascoe - Mary Catherine b.1856 at Prahran, d.1856, Annie Elizabeth b.1857 at Maryborough we have heard lots about, Herman Tankersley b.1859 at Gardiner d.1899 of syphilis! (I have a copy of his death certificate)- is this the uncle you talk of who brought up Herman Davies?? may not have been the greatest role model!!, then Catherine Tankersley b.1862 at Dunedin d.1954 in Sydney, Eva Blanche b.1865 at Dunedin d.1888 "died after a painful illness of 30 hours" says her headstone, and Alfred Ernest b.1868 at Dunedin d.1903 at Adelaide- he was a bit of a scoundrel too and deserted his wife and young son also. I have even got notes of the Dodd/Dodt/Dodemann family back into Bremen,Germany where they came from ,dating back to 1686 if that's of any help to anyone.

Kik








Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Hayden55 on Tuesday 18 March 14 07:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,
My wife (*) has found this thread very interesting and it has helped to answer several questions. We just found this site today and plan to do some more exploring. (*) is slowly tracing the Tankersley family back in England. Here family tree is http://www.tankersley.tribalpages.com/ (http://www.tankersley.tribalpages.com/) the password is "tory".  :-X
No doubt I'll be back to check out my family also.
Cheers, Hayden McGrail

(*) Moderator's note: Names of living person removed to protect personal privacy.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Tuesday 18 March 14 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Pasclaw I would love some more details of the next generations after Bethany Eve, Edith Victtrine and your grandfather Ralph William Pascoe.
...
I have even got notes of the Dodd/Dodt/Dodemann family back into Bremen,Germany where they came from ,dating back to 1686 if that's of any help to anyone.

Kik

I'd love to see the notes of the Dodd origins - the difficulty of researching in another language has always deterred me from tracking back that line.

On the Pascoe connection - Ralph William Pascoe m. Dorice Wilhelmina Neruda Beck in NZ and they came to Australia on their honeymoon and stayed.  RWP was a government surveyor.  They had four children (one being my dad), three of whom are still alive.

I included something incorrect in my earlier post - Ken Hungerford was Merlin Hungerford's uncle, not brother.  Merlin and Victtrine had one daughter, who last I knew was living in London, but I haven't stayed in touch with her.  Eve and Ken had, as I said, one daughter, Bethany Elizabeth, who died on Christmas Day last year.  She had one daughter, who was given up for adoption, but no children with her husband Kris, who died a few years before her.
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Tuesday 18 March 14 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Pasclaw and Hayden McGrail, and welcome to RootsChat. :) :)

Pasclaw, as we don't post the names of living or possibly living persons on RootsChat, could I ask you to edit your post above, please. RootsChat is rigorous in its policy to protect individuals from the threat of identity theft, spam and other abuses.

And with that in mind, could I strongly recommend to Hayden McGrail that you remove what I assume is your personal image from your profile and perhaps also change your profile name to something more anonymous. ;) Don't make it easy for them. ;)

Once you have both made three posts you can use the Personal Message (PM) facility to exchange personal information as that above, email addresses, ask questions of your Moderator 8), etc. Even a couple of smiley posts to reach three is fine.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

Congratulations on finding a connection and happy hunting.

Don't hesitate to contact me or another Moderator if you have any questions.

Spades
Moderator, New Zealand Board


Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Tuesday 18 March 14 22:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the welcome, Spades, and the instruction.

And on that note, I have a question - when I realised I'd made an error in my first post, I went to find some way to amend the post, but couldn't see any way to do it.  OTOH, the post you asked me to amend had a "modify post" option, which I used.  Did you specifically set that post so that it could be modified by me, or am I just going crazy and can't see a similar option on the first post? :-)
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Tuesday 18 March 14 22:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Pasclaw,

Excellent question. :) Once you make a post you can only edit it within twenty-four hours, which is presumably why you couldn't edit your first post but could edit the next.

After twenty-four hours only Moderators can edit a topic.

If you want a topic edited for a correction after twenty-four hours feel free to ask a Moderator to do this for you, although it's perfectly ok to simply discuss errors in earlier posts further down the topic (e.g. 'refer Reply#7...').

Spades

Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Tuesday 18 March 14 22:35 GMT (UK)
If you want a topic edited for a correction after twenty-four hours feel free to ask a Moderator to do this for you, although it's perfectly ok to simply discuss errors in earlier posts further down the topic (e.g. 'refer Reply#7...').

Thnaks.  So if I wanted to ask a Moderator, would I use the "report to moderator" link, or is that only for "bad" posts?
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Tuesday 18 March 14 23:03 GMT (UK)
No, not at all. ;D

You can use the Report to Moderator (commonly known as 'R2M') link to sign off a topic as Completed (very helpful to your poor hardworking bottle-washers), to advise the Moderation Team of email addresses or living persons which need to be removed from any posts you come across, to tell us of a topic posted in the wrong place (it's not uncommon to find new topics accidently posted in a Resources & Offers Board or in Completed Requests - we'll move them to the appropriate board where they will be seen), and in general, anything you think we should know about.

The advantage of R2M's is that all the Moderation Team will see it and someone will be able to help.

You can send a Moderator a Personal Message (PM) instead if you prefer.

Spades
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Hayden55 on Tuesday 01 April 14 01:07 BST (UK)
Hi Pasclaw and Hayden McGrail, and welcome to RootsChat. :) :)

Pasclaw, as we don't post the names of living or possibly living persons on RootsChat, could I ask you to edit your post above, please. RootsChat is rigorous in its policy to protect individuals from the threat of identity theft, spam and other abuses.

And with that in mind, could I strongly recommend to Hayden McGrail that you remove what I assume is your personal image from your profile and perhaps also change your profile name to something more anonymous. ;) Don't make it easy for them. ;)

Once you have both made three posts you can use the Personal Message (PM) facility to exchange personal information as that above, email addresses, ask questions of your Moderator 8), etc. Even a couple of smiley posts to reach three is fine.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

Congratulations on finding a connection and happy hunting.

Don't hesitate to contact me or another Moderator if you have any questions.

Spades
Moderator, New Zealand Board

Hi Spades,
Thank you for your guidance. Will avoid "living names" in future.
As for name & photo, I logged in using facebook so these were automatically adopted by rootschat. It's the way the rootschat app has been set up by rootschat.
I have managed to edit my name but not my photo - any help with this would be appreciated.
Found this was the only why to reply to you - any advise on a better way would also be appreciated.
Also couldn't work out how to edit my "rule breaking" post or even delete it - so your suggestions on this would also.

Regards, Hayden55
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Tuesday 01 April 14 01:17 BST (UK)

Hi Spades,
Thank you for your guidance. Will avoid "living names" in future.
As for name & photo, I logged in using facebook so these were automatically adopted by rootschat. It's the way the rootschat app has been set up by rootschat.
I have managed to edit my name but not my photo - any help with this would be appreciated.

Regards, Hayden55

Hayden, I clicked on my own user name, then on "forum profile" and there's an option in there to select an avatar, upload an avatar or use no pic at all.  That's how to change your forum pic.

HTH
Pasclaw
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Tuesday 01 April 14 03:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for giving the advice, Pasclaw. ;D

Hayden, see Reply#81 above for the reason you couldn't edit your first reply.

If you make one more post (even a reply with a smiley will do) you will have access to the Personal Message (PM) facility and can then send private messages to other members and the Moderation Team members.
See here for more: http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

I've edited your first reply to the topic to remove the name.

Spades
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Gandydancer on Friday 20 March 15 08:44 GMT (UK)
Hello Pasclaw,
I was very interested in your posts about the Pascoe family.  We have similar ancestors and you have clarified some missing information for me.   :)

Thank you,
Gandydancer
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Gandydancer on Friday 20 March 15 17:03 GMT (UK)
Dear Kik and Pasclaw,
I have information about the living ancestors of the Pascoe family - Eva and Victrrine.  I am looking for information about Juliet - Merle and Victtrine's daughter. I hope you are still on this post.
Gandydancer
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Gandydancer on Friday 20 March 15 17:05 GMT (UK)
Dear Kik and Pasclaw,
This is my third post so I can send a personal message.  I'd like to communicate further with both of you about the Pascoe line and the living relatives.
Cheers,
Gandydancer
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Calametals on Thursday 09 April 15 01:27 BST (UK)
Hi Pasclaw,

I came across these postings while doing some research I've been doing on Elizabeth Van Veen's history and have been astounded at what I've been reading. I'm quite nervous posting this comment. I may have a personal connection to her based on the corraboration of information I am reading to what I have discovered on my own so far. Is there any way you could PM me to discuss? I understand I can't post  my email here and I don't have the required 3 posts to PM you. I haven't used this before so am quite unsure what protocol is for this.

Thanks!

Calametals
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 April 15 02:42 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Calametals on Thursday 09 April 15 03:23 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Calametals on Thursday 09 April 15 03:24 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: Calametals on Thursday 09 April 15 03:27 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: spades on Thursday 09 April 15 04:54 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Sunday 12 April 15 08:27 BST (UK)
Following recent posts on this thread, and some private messages related to the descent line, I remembered that I have a pile of about 10 photos which came from Elizabeth (Hungerford) van Veen, and which I volunteered to scan for the family.  I've just had another look at them, and they include one labelled "Eve Dodd, my aunt".  I'm assuming that's Eva Blanche Dodd, who would have been Elizabeth's great-aunt (with the photo's label having been written by her mother, Bethany Eva (Pascoe) Hungerford).  Given Kik's information that she died at around 23yo, and that this is a 19th C photo of a young adult woman, it may be one of the only - if not THE only - photo of her in existence, and it would be hugely unfair of me to keep it to myself.

If anyone would like a copy, please PM me.  It'll make me get off my backside and do the scanning! :-)

Pasclaw


Hi,

I'm jumping back into the Davies and Dodd tree following the latest posting by Pasclaw with some updates of the Catherine Pascoe (Dodd) side of the family siblings. As I've said before my knowledge of my grandfathers half siblings is scant and therefore my tree on that side runs out early. I have been absolutely fascinated finding out about that scoundrel Herman / George Davies - brilliant stuff. I have been able to piece together lots of loose ends. Not sure how many more 'holes' you have to fill but maybe I have a few answers for you from my research. Pasclaw I would love some more details of the next generations after Bethany Eve, Edith Victtrine and your grandfather Ralph William Pascoe.
Some titbits from my tree notes of the other siblings of Catherine Tankersley Pascoe - Mary Catherine b.1856 at Prahran, d.1856, Annie Elizabeth b.1857 at Maryborough we have heard lots about, Herman Tankersley b.1859 at Gardiner d.1899 of syphilis! (I have a copy of his death certificate)- is this the uncle you talk of who brought up Herman Davies?? may not have been the greatest role model!!, then Catherine Tankersley b.1862 at Dunedin d.1954 in Sydney, Eva Blanche b.1865 at Dunedin d.1888 "died after a painful illness of 30 hours" says her headstone, and Alfred Ernest b.1868 at Dunedin d.1903 at Adelaide- he was a bit of a scoundrel too and deserted his wife and young son also. I have even got notes of the Dodd/Dodt/Dodemann family back into Bremen,Germany where they came from ,dating back to 1686 if that's of any help to anyone.

Kik
Title: Re: Davies and Dodd *COMPLETED*
Post by: pasclaw on Sunday 17 May 15 08:50 BST (UK)
Earlier in the thread, I said this:

Eve and Ken had, as I said, one daughter, Bethany Elizabeth, who died on Christmas Day last year.  She had one daughter, who was given up for adoption, but no children with her husband Kris, who died a few years before her.

And I now need to add to it.  Bethany Elizabeth not only had one daughter, whom she surrendered for adoption, but also a son surrendered for adoption.  The process of discovering that has been quite fascinating, and partly due to this very discussion, so I felt it incumbent on me to update the info :-)  Thanks to all who've contributed pieces of the jigsaw puzzle.

Pasclaw