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Title: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Thursday 24 June 10 15:08 BST (UK)
I am interested in William Browne 1831-1908. A skinner in Watling Stret in his early years, he was reputed to be a United Irishman and definitely secretary of the Irish National Foresters Friendly Society in 1900 and before. In his later years he had a fruiterers shop in Ormonde Quay and died there in 1908 aged 77 years.
I am particularly inteested in his siblings and parents.
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 24 June 10 15:13 BST (UK)
This could be him on the 1901 census :

 Browse family, Ormond Quay,  (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Upper_Ormond_Quay/1280986/)

If you could locate a cert for the marriage of William and Margaret it would give you their father's names..

see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)




Shane
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Thursday 24 June 10 15:25 BST (UK)
William's Father was Henry, also a skinner in Watling Street. His Mother was Maria Sherlock but I dont know where or when they married, presumably before 1831 possibly St James parish in James Street Dublin. How do I get these details
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 24 June 10 15:27 BST (UK)
There are Dublin City parish records online at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

more are due to be added later this year

p.s. I see you are in Dublin...  RC records also on microfilm in the National Library


Shane
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Tuesday 29 June 10 21:24 BST (UK)
Greetings,

My great great grandfather George Browne was a skinner in Watling Street. I wonder if they were related?
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Wednesday 30 June 10 17:52 BST (UK)
Wow, William had a brother George buried in Glasnevin cemetery born 1831, died 1873. Does this ring any chimes?. Father was Henry and as far as I can ascertain Mother was Maria Sherlock
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Thursday 01 July 10 18:46 BST (UK)
Greetings,

That sounds fantastic could very well be a link here, i have just started this week to research my mothers side of the family(Browne). I will have more information over the next few days and will keep in contact.
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Friday 02 July 10 10:03 BST (UK)
I have a considerable body of material on the Browne family, particularly cemetery records. If you contact me at (*) I am happy to share them. Attached is the copy of George Brownes Burial record.

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Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Saturday 03 July 10 13:33 BST (UK)
 Greetings !
 Many  thanks for the cert on george browne its 'fantastic'!!!! I'm still struggling with the brownes on watling street there seems to be alot of them.  Do you know if geogre browne had a son called michael?
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Saturday 03 July 10 14:06 BST (UK)
No info on George but he and Wiliam seem to have been born in 1831, pehaps twins. I am descended from Wiliam and I have a fair body of info on his descendents. George was married but I have no info on his wife or children. Anything you have would be of interest. eorge's Father was Henry and he and his family are buried in a Vault in Glasnevin (see atached)
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Sunday 04 July 10 11:13 BST (UK)
Greetings !

All i have at the moment ( only started this last week ) is

Martha Browne ( grandmother ) Watling Street

Michael Browne ( her father ) married Johanna Daly .  Watling Street

George Browne ( Michaels father ) his wife could have been Ann Smith .

Many Thanks for the buriel cert and grave photo .

As the info comes in ill keep you informed

Best Wishes !
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Monday 05 July 10 07:26 BST (UK)
Hi,
    Do you have any dates, births or deaths?
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Tuesday 06 July 10 10:39 BST (UK)
At the moment nothing !  Just  names  I picked up from an elderly aunt !

Will get back to you when I have some definate dates ect .

Best Wishes !

Paul
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Tuesday 06 July 10 11:56 BST (UK)
At last something !

Michael Browne 35 Watling Street

Married Johanna Daly 26th Sept 1887 Parish of St James

Children ;

George ,  William  , Ann , Michael , Denis .

On marraige cert Michaels father listed as George Browne   

 
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Tuesday 06 July 10 12:59 BST (UK)
Possable brother of Michael Browne !   1901

William Browne No 12 Watling St .

Wife Sarah

children .

William , George, Ann , Margaret ,  Stephen ,
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Thursday 08 July 10 10:53 BST (UK)
Good stuff. Where did you get the marriage cert? There may be other records to be found in the same place
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 08 July 10 11:12 BST (UK)
that marriage record is on the IrishGenealogy Website at http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

see Browne/Daly marriage 1887 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/42b0de1395678)

 


Shane
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Thursday 08 July 10 11:18 BST (UK)
This is not the George in my burial cert as he died in 1873. May be his son, if so he would be William's nephew.
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 08 July 10 11:20 BST (UK)
marriage records do not always specifically state if the father of the bride or groom are deceased or not .. so this George may not necessarily have been alive at the time of marriage - the name is still recorded.


Shane
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Friday 09 July 10 18:14 BST (UK)
I have located William and Georges baptisms In St James Church. The Spelling is Brown without the E but their Mother is recorded as Sheridan and Sherlock
WILL BROWN    Name
N/R N/R N/R    Date of Birth
DATE OF BAPTISM   17/11/1830
N/R       Address
HENRY BROWN   Father
MARIA       Mother
ANDW KEOUGH   Sponsor 1
BRADY      Sponsor 2
Book Number2
Page8
Entry Number19
Record_IdentifierDU-RC-BA-331024
St James Church

GEORGE BROWN       Name
N/R N/R N/R       Date of Birth
DATE OF BAPTISM      28/02/1832
N/R          Address
HENRY BROWN       Father
MARIA          Mother
CHRISTOPHER LARKIN   Sponsor 1
EMILI BRADY      Sponsor 2
Book Number 7
Page 51
Entry Number 682
Record_Identifier DU-RC-BA-330976
St James Church

It looks certain that they are brothers.
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Friday 09 July 10 18:17 BST (UK)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=&name2=&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=DUBLIN%20%28RC%29&parish=ST.%20JAMES&century=1800&decade=1830&type=&sort=&pageSize=100&submit=Search

I got the records from the above address
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Sunday 11 July 10 08:37 BST (UK)
I am trying to trace birth or baptism records for Henry Browne, Father Henry, Mother Maria Sherlock.
He was buried in the family plot in Glasnevin in the 1830s. He died young but at what age I only have 1830s. I have his siblings WILL BROWN, GEORGE BROWN, MARIA MONICA BROWN, ANNE MARIA BROWNE
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Knowles on Monday 12 July 10 09:25 BST (UK)
Great  news re George Browne Many Thanks !

Need to find out his wifes name !

Will get back when i have anything 1

Paul
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Monday 19 July 10 20:27 BST (UK)
http://www.myheritage.com/site-126242761/browne-family
This website has the latest cut at my family tree. It may be useful
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: Paul Sheridan on Saturday 25 August 12 04:20 BST (UK)
Hello Henry Browne and Paul Knowles, I came across this post on Google while researching my great great grandmother Johanna Daly/Browne from Watling Street (forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place I never use these forums)...
Paul I believe you know my mother Betty O'Neill (Daughter of Paddy and Esther)?
Henry I haven't figured out yet what relation we are as I have literally and frantically just signed up to all these websites when I found the post in Google only 30 mins ago   :o
Hopefully you can both get back to me as I would love to share the info we have on our ancestry.

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: William Browne
Post by: hbrowne4 on Sunday 26 August 12 18:33 BST (UK)
Attached below some certs fro the website Irish Heritage

Baptism of GEORGE BROWN of N/R on 28 February 1832
Name      GEORGE BROWN
Date of Birth   N/R
Address   N/R
Father      HENRY BROWN
Mother   MARIA (Sherlock?)

Sponsors   CHRISTOPHER LARKIN / EMILI BRADY

Baptism of ANNE SMITH of N/R on 22 January 1839
Name         ANNE SMITH
Date of Birth   N/R
Address      N/R
Father      PAT SMITH
Mother      AN TALLANT

Sponsor    ANN TOLLENS
Priest      JAS F ENNIS

Marriage of George Browne and Anna Smyth13 September 1863
      Husband               Wife
Name      GEORGIUS BROWN      ANNA SMYTH
Address   160 THOMAS ST         10 EARL ST
Occupation   N/R               N/R
Father      HENRICI BROWN         PATRICII SMYTH
Mother   MARIAE SHERLOCK      ANNAE TALLANT
Further details in the record
Priest      M A FRICKER
Witnesses JACOBUS ENNIS / ALICIA MURPHY

Marriage of Michael Browne and Johanna Daly 26 September 1887
      Husband            Wife
Name      MICHAELIS BROWN      JOANNA DALY
Address   66 WATLING STREET      50 WATLING ST
Occupation   N/R               N/R
Father      GEORGII BROWN         DIONYSII DALY
Mother   N/R               N/R

Witnesses   JACOBUS CLEARY / BRIGIDA MULLALLY

George is the father of William, (The old guy in my picture) and George, the father of Michael.This is all I have on your branch to date