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Title: Occupation help
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 19 June 10 08:20 BST (UK)
Please can you help with Eliza Cocks occupation in 1911
She has previously worked in a cotton mill

Now she is a dealer in ?Yeants?
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: maidmarianoops on Saturday 19 June 10 09:08 BST (UK)
http://www.andrewalston.flyer.co.uk/cottonindustryjobs.htm


this should help

sylvia
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 19 June 10 09:11 BST (UK)
I can't imagine what it says, but occupation code 789 was

789 Chemists, Druggists
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 19 June 10 10:02 BST (UK)
She is working on her own account no at the cotton mill any more if that helps
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 19 June 10 10:11 BST (UK)
Looks like ?eant Dealer but what the first capital letter is beats me

charlotte
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: kathb on Saturday 19 June 10 10:12 BST (UK)
Hi, Stonechat, it looks like scent dealer
Regards
Kathb
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: danuslave on Saturday 19 June 10 10:15 BST (UK)
Hi stonechat

It might be Fent dealer.  Fents are (or were) fabric remnants and she probably had contacts in the cotton industry who could supply them.

Linda

PS the word fent is still in use - try google
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 19 June 10 10:18 BST (UK)
Kathb, You reckon that first capital could be "S"?
I agree the following letters could be "cent" but can't see
 the "S" :-\
charlotte
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: JenB on Saturday 19 June 10 10:32 BST (UK)
It might be Fent dealer.  Fents are (or were) fabric remnants and she probably had contacts in the cotton industry who could supply them.

I think danuslaves suggestion is the most likely solution. The 'f' at the start of the word looks like two letters but is actually only one - it's been written with an extra loop which makes it look like two.

Try googling 'fent dealer'  ;)

Jennifer
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: JenB on Saturday 19 June 10 10:40 BST (UK)
Fent Dealer - Dealer in "Fents" - cloth remnants, ends of bolts of cloth etc
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/f.html

Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 19 June 10 10:44 BST (UK)
On the page  on whch the original scan comes are there any other words starting with a capital "F"as a basis for comparison?

charlotte
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 19 June 10 10:51 BST (UK)
Hi

The problem with the 1911
She is living alone no other comparison

Bob
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Saturday 19 June 10 16:51 BST (UK)
when I read first read it I thought Fents - both my parents were in aspects of the cotton trade so it was a word I was familiar with.
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: nickgc on Saturday 19 June 10 17:43 BST (UK)
Fent doesn't make "scents" (sorry) when combined with Geoff's discovery of the occupation code.  Why would a dealer in fabric remnants be classified with chemists and druggists?  A "scent dealer" as Kath proposed would be classified as such.  Much more likely I think.

Nick
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 19 June 10 19:20 BST (UK)
Fent doesn't make "scents" (sorry) when combined with Geoff's discovery of the occupation code.  Why would a dealer in fabric remnants be classified with chemists and druggists? 

Of course, the census clerk would have to do the same deciphering as we all are ... if he thought it said "scent", he would treat it accordingly.  If his version was wrong, he'd classify it wrongly!  :-\
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: roopat on Saturday 19 June 10 21:36 BST (UK)
I went into our local fabric / pattern / dressmaking shop today, it's been there years - it's called the Fent Shop - it's in Norfolk miles from the cotton industry, must admit I'd never heard of it before I came here.
Pat
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 19 June 10 22:25 BST (UK)
Thanks for the ideas

I had never realised that those numbers were a code that meant something
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 20 June 10 11:42 BST (UK)
I had never realised that those numbers were a code that meant something

Here's the list http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&127
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: charlotteCH on Sunday 20 June 10 11:47 BST (UK)
Everywhere there is room for error ::) ::)
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Sunday 20 June 10 15:30 BST (UK)
I agree - anyone can make a mistake - even census clerks !!
Title: Re: Occupation help
Post by: JenB on Monday 21 June 10 12:22 BST (UK)
Of course, the census clerk would have to do the same deciphering as we all are ... if he thought it said "scent", he would treat it accordingly.  If his version was wrong, he'd classify it wrongly!  :-\

Quite  :D

Given her previous occupation I still go for fent dealer.