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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: annaS on Thursday 17 June 10 22:43 BST (UK)
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I expect that you have been asked this many times - but here goes anyway!
My grandmother's sister - therefore my mother's aunt -according to the IGI Jeremiah Austin married Emily Pennicott 30 January 1892 in Durban, Natal, South Africa.
It was always known that Emily went to live in South Africa and married 'Jerry Austin' - but I would like to know where I could obtain a marriage certificate for this couple?
It was always assumed in my generation of the family that Jerry came from the next village in Sussex, where there were a number of Austins, but I now have my doubts, and believe that perhaps he was born in South Africa, and Emily met him whilst living/working there.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards, Anna
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Hi Anna,
It is not an easy task to find marriage certs - copies of the church registers are held on file in Durban so if I go in it would be easy to find it. However it is unlikely to give parents names on that. Jeremiah died in 1911 and it would be best to order his death notice from NAAIRS and this should contain his birth place and parents if filled in correctly. It may also have a will attached.
Ruth
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That's super Ruth. How do I go about ordering a death certificate from NAAIRS?; and what does NAAIRS mean?
Sorry to be so dense! South Africa is all new to me, although I have been doing family history for over 15 years now, but all in the UK.
What sort of information is on the marriage certificate anyway?
Regards, Anna
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Sorry to be bombarding you with messages.
It would be interesting to confirm the date of the Austin/Pennicott marriage. I know that IGI are pretty good, but they do sometimes get the dates wrong.
If this incurs any cost to you please let me know.
Anna
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Hi Anna,
Please read the stickys at the top of this board - it should give you all the answers. If not, give me a shout again.
Ruth
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Sorry. What's a sticky?
I did a Google on NAAIRS and found out what that means. Do I email them for a death certificate for Jeremiah Austin?
Anna
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Hi Anna,
It is at the top of this board ( south africa) http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,291.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,211554.15.html
Click on the topics and you will the info.
Ruth
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Hello again Ruth,
I have looked through all that you have told me and have sent an email to the Durban archivist hoping that he will be able to furnish me with a copy of Jeremiah Austin's death notice.
As regards the marriage of Jeremiah Austin and Emily Pennicott you say that it will not be difficult to find this on the church registers; I would be interested to know which church they were married in. Thank you.
I have a couple of letters that Emily sent to my mother just before and during WW11 and the address on each one is 39, Assembly Road, Wentworth, Durban. I used the Google maps and see that it is still there!!
I just thought that you might like to know my observation.
Many thanks once again, Anna
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This link will give you the marriage certificate.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJeremiah~%20%2Bsurname%3AAustin~&collection_id=2063749
I live in South Africa and would love to know more about the family.
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Document 2 of 2
DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 43/79
PART 1
DESCRIPTION AUSTIN, JEREMIAH. (KNOWN AS CARMODY) (S/SP AUSTIN, EMILY).
STARTING 19110000
ENDING 19460000
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DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 233/1951
PART 1
DESCRIPTION AUSTIN, EMILY. (BORN PENNICOTT) BORN IN ENGLAND. PRSP. AUSTIN,
JEREMIAH. EST. NO. 191/11 DECEASED ESTATE.
STARTING 19500000
ENDING 198500
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Do you have a copy of that document.
Regards
Jill
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Hi
You can order the Death Notice via www.eggsa.org they can get them from the Pietermaritzburg archives for you. Their prices are reasonable. Unfortunately the online ones only go up to 1950 and the one you need is 1951. I would copy and paste the information posted by pampoen into your request to be sure you get the right file. What you are looking for is the Death Notice which if you look at the one with Jeremiah's estate can be quite detailed.
Here is the link for Jeremiah's estate file.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS7B-WQP5-3?mode=g&i=1028&cat=229462
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Can anyone help me with Jeremiah Austin and Emily Pennicott's parents.
Regards
Jill
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Hi
His parents are listed as deceased on his Death Notice, it says he was born in Dublin Ireland so perhaps if you post the query for his parents on one of the Irish boards you'll probably have more luck.
It also says he was also known as Jeremiah Carmody on the Death Notice and was a plate layer for the South African Railways. It lists the name of his children, 4 sons and 3 daughters and his wife.
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If you go to Family Search and type in her name and give a birth date of 1865 to 1869 there are a number of Emily's just a matter of finding yours
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Thank you
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:D :D
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Estate of Nicholas Charles Austin and Charles Martin.
DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MSCE
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 2627/1963
PART 1
DESCRIPTION AUSTIN, NICHOLAS CHARLES. BORN IN BRAKWAL, NATAL. SSP ELIZA ANN
AUSTIN. DECEASED ESTATE.
STARTING 19630000
ENDING 19640000
DEPOT TAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 180/76
PART 1
DESCRIPTION AUSTIN, CHARLES MARTIN.
STARTING 19760000
ENDING 19760000
REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE FLORENCE MAY AUSTIN.
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Thank you