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Title: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: cfw5 on Wednesday 16 June 10 11:30 BST (UK)
Any links to Bartholomew: born around 1821 and emigrated to Manchester before 1842?

Regards
Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 16 June 10 11:37 BST (UK)
Since the birth of Bartholomew is long before the start of civil registration in 1864 you will need to research parish records. To do this you need to establish the religion of the Doran family and a detailed location for them - i.e. parish, town or townland.

With a common surname like Doran you would probably need further clues to confirm any details you may find. Do you have a marriage record for Bartholomew showing his father's name ?


Shane
Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: cfw5 on Wednesday 16 June 10 11:43 BST (UK)
All I have is his age/DoB, from the marriage registration to Frances Collins in Manchester in 1842. Place of birth "Ireland". Very poor pickings!
 Thanks, Chris
Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 16 June 10 14:44 BST (UK)
hi
bartholomew doran was a tailor he marrys 1842 and dies 1861 .
copy of cert on www.ancestry.co.uk a subscription site , censuses there as well as is a family tree .

info below is from censuses

on 1841 english census ancoats manchester
thos (thomas ?) doran 1786 ireland , tailor
hannah doran 1796 ireland
bartho (bartholomew) doran 1816 ireland , tailor
john doran 1821 ireland , tailor

on 1851 english census ancoats manchester
bartholomew doran 1821 ireland tailor
frances doran
list of children , several .

it would well be worth your while checkin out the censuses for bart,s parents and see what happend to his brother

this site might help to trace parents deaths and bro,s marriage
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

if you want list of children to bart and frances please just ask , no probs
Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 16 June 10 14:52 BST (UK)
too good to be true , dont know how common names are , but
thomas doran hannah scott 26 nov 1820 lucan
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html
Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: cfw5 on Wednesday 16 June 10 14:55 BST (UK)
This is great. Thanks very much. :D

Is the list you just sent the children of Bart and Frances or is it a list of Bart's siblings?

Regards, Chris

Title: Re: Bartholomew DORAN
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 16 June 10 15:31 BST (UK)
sorry information overload .

barts father was thos his mother hannah he has brother john ,
all born ireland
irishgenealogy link is a POSSIBLE marriage

bart marries frances collins there list of children is
mary ann 1843 margaret 1846 matilda 1848 thom 1851 john 1854 catherine 1859 frances 1861 ,,

francis collins parents were
bernard collins and bridget , born ireland
siblings
mary 1826 bridget 1828 sarah 1830 matilda 1833
there family tree is also on ancestry.co.uk

the connection between the two trees and barts parents has not been made yet by the host of the trees but by looking through the censuses the link is obvious .