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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Rachael89 on Tuesday 15 June 10 12:22 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
I was wondering if anyone here had any links to the 'Dale' family. Arnold married Robina Grant (b. 1865), who was the sister of my great-great-grandfather. I have what I belive is a photograph of Robina, and would love to get in touch with her American descendants to see if the photo I have is indeed of her.
I will post the information I have below:
Robina was born 6 June 1864 in Monifieth, Angus.
In 1886, she married Arnold H Dale (b. 28 November 1860, Dundee, Angus). At the time she was living at Hospital Wynd, Dundee.
On 30 April 1887, they left for America on The State of Alabama. They had the following children:
1. Louis Dale (b. 23 January 1887, Scotland)
2. Isabella G Dale (b. 1891, New York)
3. Lillian D Dale (b. 10 June 1894, New York)
4. William Dale (b. 27 February 1899, Patterson, Passaic, New Jersey)
Between 1890 and 1891, the family were living at 90 Mercer Street, Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey. In 1910, they were living at 78 Park Ave. East, Household 110-140, Queens, New York. In 1920, Arnold and Robina were living at 29 Hillcrest Ave., Household 152-157, Jamaica, Queens, New York with their two daughters, son-in-law and grandson.
When the family arrived in America, Arnold’s occupation was given as foreman. In the 1910 census, he was ‘Superintendent of Brass Foundry’, ten years later he was the factory’s owner.
Arnold died on 1 May 1939, his obituary in the New York Times read “Arnold H. Dale, retired president of the Queens Brass and Bronze Borough Foundry, died Monday in his home 36-38 203 St., Bayside, Queens. Mr. Dale was born 78 years ago in Dundee, Scotland and came to this country as a young man. He is survived by his widow, two daughters Mrs. Isabel Roberts and Mrs. Lillian Bull and two sons, William and Louis Dale.”
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There is an entry on Rootsweb World Connect for Robina Grant. If that isn't you then the family has been worked on recently and may give you a contact.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08x1/
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Thanks! I'll definitely check that out!
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You have William Dale 27 Feb 1899 Patterson. Passaic. New Jersey. Yet the 1910 Census says born 1889 New York ???
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Ah, thanks. That might be an error in one of the sources I used, or even a typo. I don't have subscriptions to any genealogy websites, and have had to rely on the scraps I've been able to pick up from public records/other people's websites.
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Ah, thanks. That might be an error in one of the sources I used, or even a typo. I don't have subscriptions to any genealogy websites anymore so can't check, but will look into it.
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1910 Census Queens Ward 2, Queens, New York
Arnold Dale 49 Immigrated 1887
Rolina Dale 45 Had 4 children. 4 Survived.
Lewis Dale 23 Born Scotland
William Dale 21 Born New York. Moulder at glass factory.
Bella Dale 18 Born New York Assebler Auto Factory
Lillian Dale 16 Born New York
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Thanks, that information is fantastic! Much appreciated :) :)
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1920 Census Queens Assembly District 4, Queens, New York
Arnold H Dale 59 Immigrated 1898 (that should be 1887) Natiralized 1893
Robina G Dale 55
Isabelle H Dale 28 Book-Keeper Publishing
Charles S Bull 27 Son-In-Law. Agent. Purchasing
Lillian D Bull 25
Arnold D Bull 1 Grandson
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1930 Census Weirsdale, Marion, Florida
The inage is jammed on this one so I cannot access.
Arnold H Dale 69
Robina Dale 65
You can view some census here:-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
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In 1930 Arnold and Robina are living in Florida. There are several family tree matches on Ancestry. I can help you with contacts.
Regards
DrD
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In 1930 Arnold and Robina are living in Florida. There are several family tree matches on Ancestry. I can help you with contacts.
Regards
DrD
That would be great, could you possibly PM me some contact details?
Also, dettori28 - thanks for all this digging! You're finding some fantastic stuff!
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1920 Census Manhattan Assembly District 16, New York, New York
Louis Dale 33 Born Scotland. Parents Scotland Immigrated 1890. Moulder. Brass Marker
Annie Dale 33 Born NY
Dorothy Dale 8 Born NY
Lillian Dale 3 Born NY
Lewis Dale 2 Born NY
Anna Dale 1 Month Born NY
Sarah Melhada 37 Sister-In-Law
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1930 Census Manhattan, New York
Luois Dale 50 Brass Moulder. Factory. Married age 33 yrs.
Anna Dale 49
Sarah Milhadl 49 Sister In Law
H Anna Henry 26 Step-Daughter. Paster at Cligar Factory.
Lilliam Dale 14
Louis Dale 12
Anna Dale 10
William Dale 5
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Sorry, forgot to add that there are photos for Robina and Arnold`s parents (William Dale and Martha Henderson) on two family trees.
Regards
DrD
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Wow, would you possibly be able to save the photo and send it to me? That would be wonderful if you could! I'll PM you my email address.
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1930 census Ocala, Marion, Florida
Again the image is jammed so cannot access. Gives you a rough idea of daughter Lillian though.
Charles C Bull 37
Lilly D Bull 32
Arnold D Bull 12
+ another son which I cannot name incase still living.
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1935 Florida State Census
Arnold H. Dale 74 Retired
Robina Dale 70 Housewife
Lillian Dale Bull 36 Housewife
Arnold D Bull 17 High School Student
The younger son born 1929 is also at school
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Some of those anc.try tree have wrong information on e.g. death dates for Arnold and Robina etc, so you will have to tread carefully with some.
WW1 Draft Dated 5th June 1917
Name: Louis G Dale City: Manhattan State: New York
Birthplace: Scotland Birth Date: 23 Jan 1887
Employer:- Walker M Leabitt & Co
Occupation:- Brass Moulder.
Dependants:- Wife and child
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Cannot find a 1900 Census entry so investigated a return to Scotland and found a UK Incoming Passenger list with the whole family.
Port of Departure: New York,
Arrival Date: 27 Dec 1898
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Furnessia
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Odd Snippets.
Lillian Dale born 10 June 1894 New York Died Dec 1970 Bayside. Queens. New York.
as per - this link
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08x4/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08x6/
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Son of Louis/Lewis Dale born 1917
SSDI Record
Name: Lewis G. Dale
Born: 7 Nov 1917
Died: 6 May 1992
WW2 Enlistment Record
15th Oct 1940
Private. Infantry.
Education: 3 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Photo Engravers
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Lewis G Dale. Born 1917
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Birth Record for William Dale 27 Feb 1888 in New Jersey.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08x5/