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Hi
I am hoping that someone can assist me. Christopher Knight was supposedly born in 1845 to James and Betsy Knight in Cornwall. He came to Australia, where he married Mary Daintry in 1884 in Sydney. He then apparently went to South Africa to work in the mines, where he died in 1893.
I am unable to find a Christopher who was born around that time, can't locate why and when he travelled to Australia, or the details of his journey to South Africa and his subsequent death. The descendants of him in Australia know virtually nothing about this man.
Any assistance would be gratefully accepted.
Thanks
Daree
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He is on the family search pilot.
Christened a little later than 1845.
12 Apr 1857
Luxulion Cornwall
Parents James & Betsy Knight
Film 254456
Sue
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James Knight married Betsy Matthews
24 Dec 1840
St Austell Cornwall
Fathers Anthony Knight & John Matthews
Film 1545297
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I have just checked the 1851 census and there is no Christopher, so assume he was born c1857...he was younger than you think.
That may be why you haven't been able to find him
1851
James Knight 36T in Miner Roche Cornwall
Betsy 33 Blisland Cornwall
Sabina 9 St Austell
Ann 8 "
James 7 "
Jemima 6 "
John 3 "
Jane 11mths Luxulion
Living Hr (?) Mewdew Luxulion
Higher on the page is
Sarah Knight 68 Head Annuitant Roche
Mary 34 Daug Infirm "
HO107 /1904/176/2
Sue
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In 1861 there is also Henry 6 and Christopher 4
There is a Matida 14, but no Jemima....maybe the same person
James Senior is now a Copper Miner (gone up in the world??)
RG9 /1533/9/12
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Hi Sue
No wonder that I could not find the information that I wanted. That now makes him 9 years younger than his wife, and is now more understandable that he went to South Africa to gold mine.
Is there any information about why and when he came to Australia?
Thanks again for all this information.
Daree
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I have found a C Knight working as a seaman - says A B - think that is some kind of personal butler???
Arrival 13/10/1890
Ship Maranoa
Leaving Bristone
Arriving Sydney
Born England
AB
Arrival 23/10/1890
Ship Marama
Leaving Melbourne
Arriving Sydney
AB
C T Knight
Arrival 13/4/1885
Ship Cahors
Dept Melbourne
Arrival Sydney
British
On page it says he is a sculleryman
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C Knight
born c1860 England
Dept Durban
Arrival Sydney 3/3/1910
Ship Persia Would have died
C T Knight
born c 1853 England
Dept London
Arrival Adelaide/ Melbourne/ Sydney 11/12/1881
Ship Orient
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Blimey, there's loads...you'll have to sort them out
C I Knight
b c1852 England Age 24 (Would really be 19)
Dept Gravesend (England)
Arrival Melbourne 22/1/1876
Ship Somersetshire
C W Knight
born c1862 English
Dept London
Arrival Sydney 14/6/1910 Died
C L Knight Occupation Miner Born c 1859
Dept Cape Colony SA - On the actual page, it says port of Dept was Melbourne
Arrival London 9/6/1899
Ship Avondale Castle
Any of this any good??
Sue
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Betsy Knight died Mar Qtr
1881 Bodmin Cornwall
Vol 5c p66
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Betsy Matthews
Christened 13/4/1818
Blisland Cornwall
Parents Jn Matthews & My
James Knight
Christened 12/6/1815
Roche COrnwall
Parents Anthony & Mary
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Hi Sue
Thanks for all the information. He has been a real problem for some time. Now I will chase him to South Africa and I can put him to bed, so to speak.
Daree
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G'day Daree,
Christopher Knight, was my great,great grandfathers' Henry Knight's little brother.
Henry was born 1854 in Polperro, Cornwall and Christopher was born Feb 17 1857.
I too have struggled to find info this far back. I do know that Henry came to Australia (possibly with Christopher) in the 1870's.
He is rumoured to have gold mined in north Queensland. Henry married in 1882 to a Maria King and they sailed to South Africa and lived there from 1889 to 1896. They had all their children there, and consequently moved back to Australia (Coffs Harbour region).
I have Henrys Family Bible with all his siblings date of births, and I also have his bank account book.
Dearly love to know more about his English background, notably Christopher.
Craig
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Actually,
Before Henry Knight moved back to Australia from South Africa, he actually went back to Polperro Cornwall and ran the Ship Inn. He left for Oz in 1904.
Craig
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Hi Craig
Thanks for getting back to me. Where are you? I am in Sydney Australia. I have no idea how to find out where and exactly when Christopher died. He had two daughters here, and obviously they have passed away, but I have tried to contact their descendants to see if they know anything about him or his family, but no luck as yet. I seem to have more information than they do and I don't think they are that interested.
Henry married Maria in 1886 in Sydney and died in 1910 in Bellingen NSW. He had three sons in South Africa and a daughter in UK. One of his sons, William, died in Sydney, so I guess that some of them came back to Australia, though his daughter Irene did not. I assume that you have this information.
I would be grateful for anything that you can tell me about Christopher in particular, but the family in general. I will do what I can at my end if there is something that I can help you with.
Regards Daree
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Hello Daree,
I live in Coffs Harbour.
Henry and Maria lived in Nana Glen (was Nana Creek) and were were buried in Coramba. Consequently a good majority of their descendants are buried their also.
I only know about Christopher marrying Mary, but as for him dying in S.Africa I had no idea. I guess that is why Henry named his third son William Christopher.
Henry and Maria had 4 surviving children. Edwin John Henry 1889(my G great grandfather), Sidney George 1893, William Christopher 1895, and Irene 1899. Irene did live here also. In fact both William and Irene married into the Sharpe family.
Basically the Knights with the Sharpes continued to mine for Gold in the Orara Valley behind Coffs.
Love to know what you have Daree. my email is
Craig
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Hi Craig
Thanks for getting back. Such a shame that you do not live in Cornwall, but never mind - ever hopeful of a direct link from the area of origin. I will send you what I have on Christopher and his offspring, as well as what I have on his siblings. I'm afraid that I do not have as much as I would like, but every little bit helps to create the picture.
Do you have any photos of any of this family. Christopher, his siblings and/or his parents? I have photos of Christopher's two daughters, but am still hunting for more.
I will get things off to you shortly. Thanks again for your assistance.
Regards Daree
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Hi Craig I noticed your post regarding the Knight family and it seems we are distant relatives. My grandmother was Irene Sharpe nee Knight and her parents were Henry and Maria Knight nee King. I know that Christopher Knight lived at Coymboyne married Alice Jones Sullivan and had 2 daughters. Regards Bronwyn Gray