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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex => England => Essex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lindyloo26 on Sunday 13 June 10 16:36 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find the wife of Robert PETTIT, the father of Susannah ADKINS, my great-grandmother.
She was born at Ingatestone around 1824. So far I have her living in Haverill in 1841 and what I think is her parents living in Ingatestone. If this is correct, her mother's name is Ann.
Is there anyone around that area who could look up Susannah's christening and possibly her parent's marriage? I live in Oxford so bit of a trek down to Chelmsford!!
I'm willing to look up anything in Oxford as I live very near the Oxfordshire records office
Linda
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Did you get her fathers name from her marriage cert
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Yes, she was married at Fryerning on 15th feb 1846. Her father is given as Robert Pettit - labourer -(how unusual!!)
Linda
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Hi Linda
I think this is the information you are looking for;
Baptism, Ingatestone 16th October 1825
Susan Armstrong Petit daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Petit. Labourer.
Marriage, Ingatestone 18th December 1821
Robert Petit OTP Widower
Elizabeth Turner OTP Widow
Both Marked with a X.
Witnesses; John Boultwood & ? Boultwood
There's a lot of Adkins activity too in Ingatestone.
If it's your direct ancestors, it may be worth purchasing the fiche from the ERO. A treasure trove of info.!
Best Wishes
:D
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Thank you so much!
I have been going round in circles for days trying to find that. I am a member of EFHS. I have been looking at what CDs are available, I didn't realise you could buy fiche. I presume I would take them to the Oxford records office to read them?
My maiden name was ADKINS, so yes I would find it very useful. I have managed to do lots on Mum's side of the family as they all lived around here, but Dad's family are more difficult. Both my parents are now dead, so I just have a few family stories to go on. I know the ADKINS come from the Braintree area. Does the fiche cover several areas or would I have to buy several?
My grandparents were both ADKINS (cousins once removed) Grandma came from Shenfield. So I have lots of ADKINS to find!
Thanks once again,
Linda
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Hello Again
Glad I could help you. Each parish has it's own set of fiche at the ERO but for what you get and the amount of travelling they save they work out very cheap. Go on their web-site and have a browse around for how to order them etc. (SEAX).
By the way, there's a 15 year old Susan Pettitt, a female servant living in Ingatestone Street, Fryerning in 1841. I would have thought this was your Susan rather than one in Haverhill. (HO107/325/15).
Take Care.
:)
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Thanks again, I will investigate the fiches tomorrow.
I think the reason I didn't find that 1841 entry is because there are so many variations on the name. She is definitely Susannah on her marriage certificate, but she signed with a cross so obviously couldn't check what the vicar had written! And so many versions of the surname too!
Just one other favour please!! I though Robert might have been married before. due to his age in 1841 census (if that is him? as his wife is given as Ann??) but I found a marriage on IGI of Robert PETIT to Jane WHEELER in Ingatestone - 18/10/1802. Do you think this was his first marriage?
Linda :)
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Sorry, me again, ;D Just thought he may have married 3 times :o
First Jane, then Elizabeth, then Ann!
Just a thought :)
Linda :)
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Just looked at EFHS website and found this
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=462071.0;num_replies=7
and family history on line doesn't exist any more :(
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Sorry, wrong link!!!
http://www.esfh.org.uk/CDs-by-Post/CDs%20-%20Top_%20level.htm
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Hi Linda
The fiche you get from the ERO have images of the original documents. The ESFH CD's are probably indexes/transcriptions. OK for basic searches, but there's nothing like seeing the real things!
My Ingatestone fiche only start in 1813, so I can't help you before those dates. SEAX has Ingatestone covered from 1558-1732 where you can view the original images, but for the missing years, you'll have to buy the fiche.
Robert was certainly married before (the widower status says that) but I've looked at the marriages from 1813 in Ingatestone and have drawn a blank on that as a location/timespan.
Here's another thought for you...Although you see a Robert Pettitt with an Ann in 1841, on the 1851 Ingatestone census, there's an Elizabeth Pettitt, widow aged 60 and as we know Robert and Elizabeth married in 1825!
I think you have much investigating to do and many false leads to dodge. ::)
Best Wishes
:D
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Hi,
I expect she is Elizabeth Ann or somesuch!! My other Great,grandmother on the Adkins side is Emma Key and her mother is Ann Charlotte and she varies her names each census!!
Regarding the CDs, if you scroll down to the bottom of the link it says they no longer sell fiches and as I think I said they don't do a CD yet of the areas I want. I must say ORO are very good, they have loads of CDs, but obviously I don't need them, living so close. I know Nigel (I expect you know of him, he uses this site a lot) has bought some and he finds them very good. He is my 4th cousin and we made contact through Genes Reunited :)
Do you by any chance have a fiche of Tendring/Clacton area, because
I enquired on Genes as well yesterday about the Pettits and got a reply from a chap called Ian. He had no details before Susan and James. I hope you don't mind but I passed on the info you gave me about Susan's baptism and her parents marriage. He then got back to me and asked about the 4th child in my father's family. Now I had no idea there was a 4th child until yesterday :o :o He thinks it may be a George who was born and died in 1897. I have no idea why this child was not mentioned. Maybe there was something wrong with him. As I said my grandparents were related and Mum's mother was horrified when she found out, she thought we would all be idiots - well nuff said ;D
Sorry to be a pest, I think I may have to have a trip to Chelmsford sometime or go to Kew (never been there, I hear it is an awkward place to find)
Thanks for all your help,
Regards
Linda
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Hi Linda
No, sorry, I haven't got Clacton/Tendring fiche.
If you do go to Chelmsford R/O, plan your visit with military precision with a "to do" list. Time goes by at about triple speed in a record office, so every minute is precious and needs to be used wisely!
I always recommend checking for yourself everything you are told by anybody else before putting it on your tree, especially if they're a "Genes" contact.
A lot of time and effort can and has been wasted because of errors passed on by well meaning but not so careful folk!
Happy Hunting
;)
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Hi,
The forth child was a matter of simple maths on the 1911 census (the caveat being that they had not lied on the census!), four born, two still alive. But as this child wasn't on any census's and the parents moved about a lot. It was going to be difficult to pin the forth child down. There second child was born in Clacton, there was one other Adkins born in a 20 year span in the tendering area (the following year!), that child also died in the same quarter. So I would suggest that would be a very good starting point, you have to start somewhere and work through the possibilities.
My very best regards IAN.
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Thanks for all your help. I will put a general look-up for George on.
Linda
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Your more than welcome Linda. You should have received an email.
Regards Ian.