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Title: registration numbers
Post by: norag on Thursday 10 June 10 07:10 BST (UK)
Can someone tell me how i get the registration number for anyone I am attempting to purchase Certificates for.

Date of event and Registration number is mandatory. Where are they available?

EG Michael Smith who died 1903 I want to get his death certificate, and those of all his siblings bur need that number.  Norag
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: Deb D on Thursday 10 June 10 07:25 BST (UK)
You can search for free at

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

Births are searchable up to 1909, Deaths up to 1979, and Marriages up to 1959.  There are instructions on the page, and fees are quoted for Certificates

 ;)
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Thursday 10 June 10 07:44 BST (UK)
May I butt in on this one please? It seems a waste to start a new thread on the same subject.

I have a registration number (from a cousin) but he isn't coming up in the name search. (NSW)
It's a country city that has had some records lost.

Is there any way to search the NSW BMDs with just a number?

Leonie.
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: cando on Thursday 10 June 10 07:49 BST (UK)
Norag I gave you the registration numbers on this thread and Michael and siblings died in Victoria
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,460520.0.html

From the linked thread

SMITH Michael
Father Smith Michael  Mother Mary UNKNOWN
43 years  at Melbourne East  1903  Reg#6464


I will go back and check if I gave you instructions but here they are again
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Good luck
Cando
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: cando on Thursday 10 June 10 07:54 BST (UK)
May I butt in on this one please? It seems a waste to start a new thread on the same subject.

I have a registration number (from a cousin) but he isn't coming up in the name search. (NSW)
It's a country city that has had some records lost.

Is there any way to search the NSW BMDs with just a number?

Leonie.

There is no place on the search page to search using a registration number.

Leonie have you tried just using the first two letters of the surname and * and his given name or just the first couple of letters of his given name and* and a year either side of what you think is the registered year.

I try all sorts of searches...some more successful than others :-X :P

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: duinnsleibhe on Thursday 10 June 10 16:24 BST (UK)
Is there any way to search the NSW BMDs with just a number?
Leonie.

If you have access to the old NSW BDMs on  CD you can perform a search on a registration number, or part of a registration number etc.
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 00:51 BST (UK)
Thanks duinnsleibhe   :D
I think my library has the CDs.
I've also discovered if you use the web page, just enter * in surname, the year, with the name of the city/district in the [District] box, then click on [Search]...it brings up all births registered in that city in that year. You can then click on [Registration numbers] and it sorts them by number.  Thanks to a good friend.  :D
But I still can't find him.  :'(
Unfortunately, I've also learned that a lot of files have been missplaced from this city.
But we are working on it.  :D
I hope this information is helpful to other researchers.

Leonie.
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: cando on Friday 11 June 10 01:13 BST (UK)
Leonie I thought the places of registration in NSW were for districts not just towns or cities.  Unfortunately I think many regs are missing from all states bdm records not just NSW.  An informative book about the missing SA records was published sometime ago and I have been meaning to locate it.  What era are you seeking the registration?  Have you thought about Parish records?  Did you notice a 'block' of numbers missing when you sorted the records online?

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 03:00 BST (UK)
Hi Cando,
I've been getting help via PM with a very good friend, who shall remain nameless for a while.
No, I didn't notice a gap  ???
The district is Wagga Wagga and it's 1877. William Henry JONES, to be precise.
I also have a couple of deaths missing from Wagga, but luckily have buriel records for proof. Plus another birth in Wagga, but have army records for him.
William is my Grandfather, so my direct line, the others are great-uncles and cousins, so I'm not as concerned to have their certificates.


Sorry norag, to have taken over your thread,  :-[  but the knowledge might be helpful to others as well.
Leonie.
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: SherlockBones on Friday 11 June 10 05:36 BST (UK)
Leonie
Thanx for the heads up re the * wildcard. I had been using it for example:-  S* would find all the births for people with the surname starting with 'S' for a particular year, but didn't know you could just use the * in the surname.

Just found a rellie I was looking for  ;D

Cheers

Jon
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 06:22 BST (UK)
Good onya Jon.  ;D

I feel vindicated for butting in now.
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: norag on Friday 11 June 10 06:34 BST (UK)
Lonebones
Ni need to apologise. I made it a separate thread for that very reason. I knew there would be others with the same query. Glad you are getting it sorted. It is all like learning  a new language. Good for the brain cells. Norag
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 06:44 BST (UK)
Thanks.  :D
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 11 June 10 07:56 BST (UK)
Leonie the Christening from the NSW Pioneers index that matches the reference number you gave me is this:  ;D

JONES William H
Father: William
Mother: Sarah
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: St Phillips, SYDNEY
Volume Ref: V1878315 153
Reg Year: 1878
Reg No: 0
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 11 June 10 07:58 BST (UK)
Also matching from the AVRI index:  8)

JONES William H - Christening
Father: William
Mother: Sarah
Reg Year:   1878   
Reg State: New South Wales
Ref Number: V1878315 153
Parish: Sydney, St Phillip's, Church of England
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 08:49 BST (UK)
Thank you Merlin,  :D you really are a magician.
That's weird tho', all evidence says he was born in Wagga. And if they were in Sydney, they should be in the Mascot/Botany area.  ???  St Philips is down in The Rocks.
Also strange that it's from the Pioneer Register.  ???
There's also info about him in the "Aldine Centenial History of NSW", that was published in 1880.
Everything says he was born in Wagga. His parents must have come up to Sydney for the christening. That's something I would never have thought of.

Next question....
How do I get a certificate?

In the past I have written to St Philips and they sent a photo copy of the church register page. But that number sugests it should be on the NSW BMD site. But it isn't.  ???
Can anyone access the Pioneer Register?  What do people with the CDs do?
If you have the answer to this one I'm sure it would be helpful to others as well as to me.

Leonie.
 :D

Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: BevBre on Friday 11 June 10 09:10 BST (UK)
Hi Leonie,
I would ring or email the Registry Office through the Contact Us page, quote the number and see what they can do  -
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/contactUs.htm

--
Bev
Title: Re: registration numbers
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 11 June 10 09:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Bev.  :D