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Title: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: MatthewJ on Wednesday 09 June 10 20:49 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am looking for burials in the parish of St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street, on and around the year 1808. However, I can't see anywhere that I can access them. The recordset in Ancestry's browsable collection for this parish that ends in 1810 actually ends around 1796 for burials. I thought that maybe burials stopped after this date, but I have since found a website that has transcriptions from 1813-53, so I assume burials were still taking place in 1808. If anyone is able to point me in the right direction, I would be very grateful.

Thanks,

Matthew
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: Valda on Friday 11 June 10 10:05 BST (UK)
Hi

Until these images come online on Ancestry the only place to check for the original register is with the Guildhall Library in the City of London

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_culture/Libraries/City_of_London_libraries/guildhall_lib.htm

As you will see from the topic on the London and Middlesex board

LMA/Ancestry "Missing" Parishes


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,430983.0.html


There is still much work to be done by Ancestry to complete the parish registers post 1813 for burials and baptisms and 1754 for marriages besides beginning serious transcription work on earlier registers and images.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: dawnsh on Friday 11 June 10 12:46 BST (UK)
Hi Matthew

I was at the LMA yesterday and asked where the images were, their reply corresponds with the info that Valda has given, but they are going to check that they have not been mis-labelled and are actually there but under a different parish name  :-\

The originals are at the Guildhall Library, but available on microfilm at the LMA, who are you trying to find?

Dawn
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: MatthewJ on Friday 11 June 10 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thank you both for your replies. Hopefully they will turn up on Ancestry in time then. The person I am trying to find is named Bruton Robins. I think he died February/March 1808. He his younger children were baptised in this parish as late as 1803, and he still lived in this area when he died.

Thanks,

Matthew
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 15 June 10 20:51 BST (UK)
From the burial register of St Mary Magdalen Old Fish Street with St Martin Ludgate

1808

Bruton Robins Church Vault (age) 44 years (on) February 22nd

Dawn
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: MatthewJ on Wednesday 16 June 10 10:17 BST (UK)
Hi Dawn,

Thank you very much for that; it is really appreciated. Do you have any idea how common it would be for people to be interred in this church's vault?

Thanks,

Matthew
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 16 June 10 13:53 BST (UK)
Not very common, it cost a lot more to be interred in the vaults. And there was the added expense of a lead lined coffin.

Dawn
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: MatthewJ on Thursday 17 June 10 12:58 BST (UK)

Thank you for all of your help Dawn. Is it likely that there will be any other records pertaining to this burial; if it was an uncommon event?

Thanks,

Matthew
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 17 June 10 13:13 BST (UK)
I don't think so, vault and churchyard burials were all entered in the same register.

'If' the vault has been cleared subsequently, as they have done at St Marylebone, there 'may' be other documentary evidence elsewhere.

What are you hoping to find?

Dawn
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: Valda on Thursday 17 June 10 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi


Have you obtained a copy of his will? (might be a mistake in the indexing of his first name but seems pretty likely it is his will)


Prerogative Court of Canterbury

Will of Burton Robins, Cotton Dealer of Old Change , City of London 29 March 1808 PROB 11/1476


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/power-search.asp?searchType=powersearch



Regards

Valda
Title: Re: St. Mary Magdalen, Old Fish Street Burials
Post by: MatthewJ on Thursday 17 June 10 15:28 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thank you both for your replies. In answer to you first Valda, yes I have obtained a copy his will. I only found it recently, and I am still working my way through it (I'm struggling with the hand writing). It was from that that I was able to deduce an approximate date of death. Thank you for taking the time to look for it.

In answer to your question Dawn, I'm hoping to find anything I can. I have marriage details for him in Newington, but nothing to give me any clues as to where he was born. The age you gave me from the burial record suggests he was born about 1763-4, and there is a 1764 baptism on the IGI in Stevenage which could well be him; but I'm not sure where to look next to prove it.

The church in question was demolished following a fire in the 1880's, so unless the vault was cleared before for some reason, I don't suppose there will be any other records then.

Thank you both for your help, and thanks again Dawn for finding the record for me.

Matthew