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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: bacall on Saturday 05 June 10 23:57 BST (UK)
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I am helping a relative who is trying to find information on her grandmother Irene May McEntee born in South Australia (possibly Kadina) and died in Adelaide December 30th 1935. She was 32 years old and a photograph developer. She may have died in a private hospital on South Terrace, Adelaide, South Australia.
I do not have any other information. This is my first post. I am a new member.
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Hi Bacall :)
Welcome to rootschat ;D
Starting with what we know and it appears that Irene's official status was single at her time of death.
Death
MCENTEE Irene May
30 Dec 1935 32 years Status Single No relative noted
Residence North Adelaide Death place Adelaide Ade HX 576/5134
Cross Reference BARNES Irene May
BARNES Irene May
30 Dec 1935 32 years Status Single No relative noted
Residence North Adelaide Death place Adelaide Ade HX 576/5134
Cross reference McENTEE Irene May
I can't see a birth for an Irene May McENTEE in South Australia. I would suggest purchasing a transcription of her death certificate which will give you the following information.
From the SA Resources board -
Death Certificate Information
1908-1947
* Date and Place of Death
* Name
* Sex
* Age
* Occupation
* Usual Residence
* Birthplace
* Length of Residence in Commonwealth
* Age at Marriage
* Number of Issue Living and Deceased
* Cause of Death
* Place of Death
* Informant
Transcripts are available from
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,280572.msg1367795.html#msg1367795
I will mention that on occasion, I have waited simply ages for transcripts from SAGHS.
You could also try the following if you do not live in Metropolitan Adelaide - residents are required to do their own research at the Unley Library.
Free Transcriptions of Adelaide Registration District BMD Certificates
http://www.gravesecrets.net/adelaide-bdm-free-transcriptions.html
You need to make two more posts and then you can use the personal messaging [pm] system. Click on the green icon on the left and under the username of the person to whom you wish to send a personal message. I have sent you a pm with some additional information.
Cheers
Cando
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I originally came across Irene May McEntee's name in another post on this site when mariac was asking about Clarence McDonald.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=230116e3868af64e47ab5d8fc75d75b9&topic=371468.msg2457346
This post would appear to refer to Irene's mother and father, 2 grandfathers and her siblings.
McENTEE Michael 22 years Single Father Thomas McENTEE
WHITFORD Marlan 20 years Single Father Elijah WHITFORD
19 Apr 1885
At the Sacred Heart Church Kadina Dal 143/381
The person I am helping to find out about Irene McEntee (her grandmother) was unaware of the existance of her relatives.
Is there any information about the birthplace of the earlier generations?
Thank you very much.
bacall
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Hi bacall
It would have been useful to have linked the thread you had previously found in your first post. You actually had Irene May McENTEE's birth already.
This is obviously the birth to which you refer ....in Western Australia not Kadina. Many South Australians left the mining areas eg Kadina etc and travelled to the mining areas of WA at the turn of the last century. Many also went to Broken Hill. My OH's forebears are amongst those that went from Kadina to both areas.
Western Australia
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Copied from the linked post
McENTEE Irene May
Father Michael Mother Marlan WHITFORD
District Coolgardie Reg# 909 1903
From the Biographcial Index of South Australians - not 100% accurate and there are many errors and omissions but a good resource. I would say there is quite a bit of submitted information on these two entries.
McENTEE Michael
Parents Thomas and Rose nee DUFFY
Born 19 Oct 1862 Wallaroo Mines, SA
Occupation Electric Supply emplyee.
Lived Adelaide Religion Roman Catholic
Married nee WHITFORD.
McENTEE Thomas
Parents Michael and Mary nee PHILLIPS
Born c1839 Drumgood, CAV IRL died 30 Jan 1907 and is buried West Terrace Cemetery.
Arrived 1858 on the FRENCHMAN
His occupations - labourer, copper lander and farmer.
Lived Adelaide, Kapunda, Wallaroo Mines, Hd Ninnes
Religion Roman Catholic
Married 8 Jan 1862 Sevenhills SA Rose nee DUFFY whose parents were James and Rose Anne nee McCAFFREY, born c1841 and died 18 Jan 1923.
Children - Michael [1862-], John, Mary VIAL [1866-], Ellen Florence [1873-1953], Frank, Rose, Ellen, Margaret FRANKLIN, Thomas, Patrick, another.
Cheers
Cando
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Births
WHITFORD Marlan Cole
8 Jan 1865
Father Elijah WHITFORD Mother Elizabeth Harriet COLE
At Kadina Ade 33/122
and siblings
WHITFORD Elisha
19 Sep 1869
Father Elijah WHITFORD Mother Elizabeth COLE
At Kadina Dal 77/22
WHITFORD William Gifford
29 Dec 1872
Father Elijah WHITFORD Mother Elizabeth COLE
At Matta Dal 117/342
WHITFORD Edwin Cole
10 Jan 1875
Father Elijah WHITFORD Mother Elizabeth COLE
At Matta Mine Dal 146/364
Parents marriage
WHITFORD Elijah 27 years Status not known Father Elujah WHITFORD
COLE Elizabeth Harriett Geford 24 years Single Father Samuel COLE
19 Mar 1864
At the Residence of Rev H Cole Kooringa Bur S 57/405
From BISA
This is the only info on a Elyah/Elijah.
WHITFORD Elyah
Born 14 Aug 1811 Callington, CON ENG. Died 17 Nov 1871.
Arrived in 1857 on the SUMNER Occupation Miner
He lived at Burra and was a Methodist.
Married 16 Sep 1830 at Gwennap CON ENG, Johannah nee WHITEFORD born 7 Mar 1810 Callington CON ENG and died 31 Oct 1882.
Children - Richard [1835-], Elyah [1836-], Ellen [1838-], Maveyan [1840-], Elisha [1841-1916], Lavinia DAVEY [1845-] Isaac [1846-1907]
WHITFORD Elyah
Parents Elyah and Johannah nee WHITEFORD
Born 29 Oct 1836 Maney Tavey DEV ENG
Arrived in 1857 on the SUMNER
Occupation Miner. Lived Burra, Moonta. Religion Methodist
Cheers
Cando
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This looks like the family in 1851, living at Well Lane, Callington, Cornwall, only the father has an occupation shown:
Elijah Whiteford 39 copper miner b Gwennap, Cornwall
Joanna Whiteford 42 wife b Tavistock, Devon
Richard Whiteford 16 b Devon, Mary Tavy?
Elijah Whiteford 14 b Devon, Mary Tavy?
Ellen Whiteford 12 b Devon Lammerton
Maryann Whiteford 10 b Devon Lammerton
Elisha Whiteford 9 b Devon Lammerton
Lavinia Whiteford 6 b Cornwall Callington
Isaac Whiteford 4 b Cornwall Callington
Plus three lodgers: George Lucas 23, Abraham Lucas 23, Maria Clemas 20
In 1841 the WHITFORD family are in Lamerton, Devon-
Elijah, Joanna, Richard, Elijah and Mary
Judith
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Thank you so much for all the help - sorry about not including the original link - I am new at this and didn't think to do so! The information is overwhelming as we had nothing previously.
Now that I have the name and year of birth of Irene, Ellen, Mary, William and Francis McEntee, I would like to know if and when they married and if they had children, and when they died. We know that Irene had one child, but Irene did not marry. I read that Ellen married (in the other link)
Marriage
McDONALD Clarence Alick St Clair 26 years Single Father Henry McDONALD
McENTEE Ellen Veronica 25 years Single Father Michael McENTEE
26 Dec 1921
At St Pauls Church Port Adelaide PtA S 289/1014
Regards
bacall
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I will go to the indexes as BISA is not always accurate but then there are also registrations missing as well. I always like to validate any information where possible.
Births
McENTEE James
25 Sep 1864
Father Thomas McENTEE Mother Rosa Ann DUFFY
At Wallaroo Ade 31/467
McENTEE John
27 Jun 1866
Father Thomas McENTEE Mother Rose Ann DUFFY
At Wallaroo Mines Ade 44/427
McENTEE Mary
8 Dec 1868
Father Thomas McENTEE Mother Rosa DUFFY
At Wallaroo Mine Dal 65/510
McENTEE Francis
5 Nov 1870
Father Thomas McENTEE Mother Rosa Ann DUFFY
At Wallaroo Mine Dal 90/424
McENTEE Ellen
18 Nov 1872
Father Thomas MCENTEE Mother Rose DUFFY
At Wallaroo Mine Dal 116/82
Marriages
McENTEE John 27 years Single Thomas McENTEE
HART Mariane Elenor 24 years Single Father Thomas Rusher HART
20 Aug 1893
At Sacred Heart Church Kadina Dal 176/560
McENTEE Thomas 24 years Single Father Thomas McENTEE
SPURR Ethel Jane Kathleen 22 years Single Father Thomas SPURR
29 Apr 1906
At St Patricks Church Adelaide Ade 227/663
McENTEE Francis 46 years Single Father Thomas McENTEE
KILLICOAT Ruby 32 years Single Father William KILLICOAT
27 Sep 1916
At St Patricks Church Adelaide Ade 268/705
VIAL Thomas Edwin 37 years Single Father Edwin VIAL
McENTEE Mary 39 years Single Father Thomas McENTEE
24 Oct 1908
At Holy Rosary Church Bute Dal 237/230
FRANKLIN Ernest Clarence 26 years Single Father Arthur Grovenor FRANKLIN
McENTEE Margaret Alice 30 years Single Father Thomas McENTEE
12 Jul 1913-
At St Pauls Retreat Glen Osmond Ade 256/94
I have to leave it there for the moment.....evening meal to prepare.
Cheers
Cando
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Am in contact with bacall so no more will be posted here.
Cheers
Cando
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Am in contact with bacall so no more will be posted here.
Cheers
Cando
Would have to wonder WHY? Perhaps it is just Cando who will not be posting anything further here ??? I hope the rest of us will continue to post. ;D
Rootshat would prefer that UNLESS the information is of a sensitive nature or concerns possible living persons that it should ALWAYS be posted on the public board. ;)
I can only suggest that if ANYBODY has ANYTHING (Which does not concern possible living persons or could be considered SENSITIVE) they should continue to post it here on this thread (We have no idea what information has been passed on privately or if we may have found something which may not been passed on privately). Thank You.
Cheers Kris :)
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Would have to wonder WHY? Perhaps it is just Cando who will not be posting anything further here ??? I hope the rest of us will continue to post. ;D
Rootshat would prefer that UNLESS the information is of a sensitive nature or concerns possible living persons that it should ALWAYS be posted on the public board. ;)
I can only suggest that if ANYBODY has ANYTHING (Which does not concern possible living persons or could be considered SENSITIVE) they should continue to post it here on this thread (We have no idea what information has been passed on privately or if we may have found something which may not been passed on privately). Thank You.
Cheers Kris :)
I am sure that a pm thank you and a request for another area research does not have to be posted on this board and there was no other person posting info from the SA records on the thread.
Kris have you considered that no more may be required on this line of enquiry? Of course if you wish to continue with further research that may not be required, that is your prerogative.
Next time I will not post when I have been thanked by pm and therefore not continuing to research further.
I always understood that words typed in upper case indicated shouting.
Cando
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I am sure that a pm thank you and a request for another area research does not have to be posted on this board and there was no other person posting info from the SA records on the thread.
Kris have you considered that no more may be required on this line of enquiry? Of course if you wish to continue with further research that may not be required, that is your prerogative.
Next time I will not post when I have been thanked by pm and therefore not continuing to research further.
I always understood that words typed in upper case indicated shouting.
Cando
Sorry Cando, myself and others could not "consider that that no more may be required on this line of enquiry", by what we have seen posted. You posted a statement (You probably meant it was only your choice not to post anything further for whatever reasons, but others were understandably wondering)
Am in contact with bacall so no more will be posted here.
The statement no more will be posted here
caused confusion. Other members wondered just what information had been sent privately and wished to know if this statement meant they should not post any further information to the thread ??? RootsChat (as I am sure you are aware) is all about posting information to the public board wherever possible. It means others searching for ancestors via seach engines may find the information and in doing so make connections. There was no "I have sent such and such sensitive information privately. The original poster wants nothing further, and I have been thanked via PM" :-\
Perhaps we all are missing something. ???
Kris
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My goodness what a fuss. Kris please continue to research this family if that is your wish.
Perhaps you would like to pm me the names of all theothers [who] were understandably wondering)
I will contact each on individually with an apology for causing such overwhelming confusion.
Cando
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Hi
I am currently researching Marlan McEntee (born around 1910) who was the sister of Irene McEntee. Your friend and my partner would be second cousins.
I don't know how far you got with the research, however I have some information on the family if you are still interested.
Marlan was one of 11 children. Her parents were Michael McEntee and Marlan McEntee (nee Whitford). The children were all born in SA, WA & NSW.
Regards
Bry
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Hi, thanks for letting me know that you have more information. My friend would be very grateful for whatever information you have found out about the family of Irene McEntee.
Regards Bacall
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hi,i am searching for relatives of Irene May Mcentee, for my mother. cheers joan norma