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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Oaks and Acorns on Thursday 03 June 10 13:15 BST (UK)
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This seems like a silly question, but can someone tell me where to find Baldoyle on the 1901 Census?
Dara.
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I've already found 3 places in 1901 census where the townlands are incorrectly spelt. Have you tried searching with surname, etc. yet?- if you want to post the details here we'll try to find it.
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Looks like they just did an update.
Baldoyle Town is now showing up in Coolock DED.
Forget that, I was looking on the 1911.
Dara.
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I think it should have been in the Coolock DED - but I've found no sign of it yet.
I dont think google has finished indexing the new 1901 pages yet, but when it does it might be worth another search to see it's ended up in another DED .
the following google format searches the 1901 Dublin data by location :
baldoyle site:http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/
Shane
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I've already found 3 places in 1901 census where the townlands are incorrectly spelt. Have you tried searching with surname, etc. yet?- if you want to post the details here we'll try to find it.
I have the Genealogical Society index to 1901 for Howth, Sutton, Kilbarrack & Baldoyle and so far, despite numerous searches, I have found nothing on Baldoyle.
The townlands listed in the Coolock, Part of, DED for 1911 seem to be missing from 1901 e.g. Baldoyle, Grange, Stapolin etc.
Here's just one example of many from the GSI Index to 1901:
James Arnold, house number 83, Baldoyle Village, ref 32/5.
I have a hard copy of this record which I got previously from the NAI so I know it should be online.
Dara.
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The census website is down at the moment, but when it comes back on line I'll have search for some people listed in Thom's 1904 in the Baldoyle area, to see if any of them show up...
Shane
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Hi all, I'm having similar problems, I have a
couple on the 1901 for Dublin and the wife
is listed with birthplace Portown and can't find it under this
spelling but there is another family listed in Antrim who also
list Portown as birthplace but it does'nt come up in a place search
for anywhere in Ireland.
Anne
p.s. The name is not mistranscribed,it's on the actual form too.Help! :'(
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Some of the people listed in Baldoyle in Thom's appear in the the various Howth DEDs - Kilbarrack upr/lwr, Howth, Censure [?], Quarry etc
e.g the Rev. Rob. S. Kerr is listed in Thom's as living in Baldoyle, but appears on the 1901 census in Quarry, Howth (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Howth/Quarry/1270636/) A Todd family are also listed in Baldoyle in Thom's, but seem to appear on the census in the townland of Censure in Howth DED
There are definitely quite a few that I cannot find, also some in Thom's just have Mr or Mrs with no occupation etc - so not easy to confirm the details.
Shane
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Thanks for trying Shane.
I have found the various Howth townlands.
All the townlands listed in1911 as 'Coolock, Part Of' seem to be missing:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Coolock__Part_of/
Dara.
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For anyone else researching Baldoyle etc. I have been informed that the area is indeed missing from the online version of 1901. However, the original documents are in the possession of the NAI.
This note on the website helps clarify the issue:
"Missing Townlands/Streets
A number of townlands/streets do not appear in the online census for 1091 and 1911, mostly due to their never having been microfilmed, and thus never digitised. This is being remedied, and the missing material will be placed online as soon as possible. A list of the missing material will shortly appear on this page.
The records for some streets and townlands have never been in the custody of the National Archives, and these will be clealy indicated."
From: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/about19011911census.html#missingtownland
Dara.
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thanks for the update,
I have heard of a few other townlands and individual streets missing in the 1901 details on the website .. will keep an eye out on that link for news from the NAI
Shane
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I've had the same problems-my family come from Maynetown, Baldoyle so I am glad to see that its just a matter of missing files. I look forward to seeing the missing files online in due course.
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. They have no staff allocated to the task. Same situation applies to 1911 corrections.
I have an index to the 1901 census that lists Head of Household (but not all family members) lodgers, boarders, visitors etc. in Howth, Sutton, Kilbarrack & Baldoyle (that includes Maynetown). I can do a look-up if you'd like.
You can but a copy of the 1901 returns for 2.54 Euro from the NAI if (like me) you are too impatient to wait.
Dara.
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Hi Dara,
Many thanks. I'll buy a copy from the NAI--the family were there in 1911 (apart from those members away at school) so I'm sure they will all be listed in 1901.
Many thanks for your tips.
By the way--have you seen Michael Hurley's book on Baldoyle, published locally last year? Its full of information on the locality.
Cheers
Patrick
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Yes, I have read most of Michael's books, I think I may have mentioned his last book on here. It sold out in a matter of weeks. He's doing a great job and I hope he continues for a long number of years to come.
My offer to look up the 1901 index is still open. You can send me a PM once you have 3 posts on here.
Dara.
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Hi Dara,
Many thanks--Michael used some family photos in his latest books--Daly's of Moyne Lodge.
Thanks for all the help.
Patrick
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Hi
Thank you for all the extra info on this.
I know you kind people on here, told me in a reply to one of my posts about Baldoyle being missing, ad I was a bit puzzled and decided it wasn't worth bothering them for a copy if it was on it's way, but it ooks as if it may well be worth getting a copy.
Can anyone tell me the best way to get a copy from England please? We keep having the same problem in Ireland where many places have no online payments, and only take cheques and postal orders from Ireland.
In the "Olden days", I just sent £2 sterling and got a copy for 1911, but I think I can't anymore.
Meantime I'll check the details.
Best wishes
Emms :)
Does anyone know the set up please?
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Hi there
just a note on Michael Hurley's book, i was trying to get a copy and they are sold out, apparently he will be hoping to get more printed for xmas if anyone missed out (like me) on the first batch
Regards
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Hi everybody,
Is anybody still active on this particular topic these days ? I note that the last exchanges go back as far as 2010 .....
10 years on, NAI have confirmed to me that they are aware of the issue, but no dates for resolution in sight.
Somebody mentioned on the forum having an Index of Heads of household for Baldoyle for the 1901 Census.
Any chance we could hook up ?
Many thanks !
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