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Title: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Morganllan on Wednesday 02 June 10 21:24 BST (UK)
Hello

Job Bithell's mother was Phoebe Bithell, christened 11th July 1784 at St Chad's Church, Holt, daughter of Thomas and Mary Bithell.

Previous post re Job Bithell:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,449614.0.html

Please can someone look up a marriage of Thomas Bithell and Mary ? and whether Phoebe has any brothers or sisters? The Farndon PRs are on the new LDS site, but Holt doesn't seem to be so well covered.

 :)
Many thanks
Morgan
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Daisypetal on Thursday 03 June 10 15:15 BST (UK)
Hi,

I found these,


Joseph BITHEL
Christening Date: 30 Apr 1768
Christening Place: Holt, Denbighshire
Father's Name: Thos. Bithel

not sure if Joseph is yours because it doesn't give a mother's name and this looks like the marriage of Thomas and Mary, of course Thomas could have been married before :-\


Thomas BITHELL
Mary WYNNE
5 May 1772
Marriage Place: Holt, Denbighshire


then there are these christenings,


John BITHEL
Christening Date: 15 Jan 1774

William BITHEL
Christening Date: 24 Aug 1777

Jonathan BITHEL
Christening Date: 5 Sep 1779

Elizabeth BITHELL
Christening Date: 17 Oct 1781

Phebe BITHEL
Christening Date: 11 Jul 1784

Thos. BITHEL
Christening Date: 9 Sep 1787

David BITHELL
Christening Date: 21 Aug 1791

all with,

Christening Place: Holt, Denbighshire, Wales
Father's Name: Thos. Bithel
Mother's Name: Mary


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 03 June 10 15:18 BST (UK)
Thank you Daisy  :)
I assume these are not on LDS.
Did it give the details of Mary Wynne's father please? or Thomas Bithell's father?
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Daisypetal on Thursday 03 June 10 15:44 BST (UK)

Hi,

The christenings are from 'England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906' and the marriage is from 'England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940'. There are no images and no other details given, sorry.

Daisy

Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 03 June 10 15:45 BST (UK)
Thanks again Daisy
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Morganllan on Monday 14 June 10 23:37 BST (UK)
Hello
Please can anyone provide details of Thomas Bithell's father and Mary Wynne's father from their marriage record?  :)
Many thanks
Morgan
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 11 July 10 10:26 BST (UK)
Thomas BITHELL
Mary WYNNE
5 May 1772

On a marriage  this early it`s doubtful it will  have these details. The best you can hope for are names of witnesses
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: Morganllan on Tuesday 27 July 10 01:31 BST (UK)
thanks, Wilcoxon

Modified - Please does anyone have any details of Mary Wynne who married Thomas Bithell at Holt in May 1772?

Thank you very much
Morgan
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: suehic60 on Saturday 08 August 20 14:36 BST (UK)
I have just found out I am related to the Bithell’s from Holt, Great grandfather was Henry Bithell/Ellis born 1866 to John Bithell & Mary Price, siblings Alfred & Alice, does anyone have this family in their tree, or any info as to why my great grandfather suddenly became an Ellis in 1897 ?
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 27 August 20 19:20 BST (UK)
I have just found out I am related to the Bithell’s from Holt, Great grandfather was Henry Bithell/Ellis born 1866 to John Bithell & Mary Price, siblings Alfred & Alice, does anyone have this family in their tree, or any info as to why my great grandfather suddenly became an Ellis in 1897 ?

Where was this change found.
Title: Re: St Chad's Holt PR - Bithell
Post by: suehic60 on Thursday 27 August 20 20:05 BST (UK)
Henry Ellis has always been a mystery/brick wall, we have not been able to trace a birth, and he didn’t physically appear on any records until 1897 when he married Mary Jane Povey, and gave his name as Henry Ellis he was listed on the baptism of his daughter Emma as Henry Ellis Bithell, even this was confusing at first as it appeared that Emma was born & died on the same day, this was however a transcription error, and Emma Ellis lived in to her 90’s, Henry was thought to have been born in 1866, in Rossett there was no record, however there was a Henry Bithell born in Rossett, who was tracked through the census until 1891 when he was living in the same village as Mary Jane Povey his future wife, between 1891 & 1897 Henry Bithell became known as Henry Ellis Bithell then the Bithell disappears & Henry Ellis emerged !