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Title: John Rafferty and family
Post by: tailz03 on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:42 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information on John Rafferty and family.
Heres what i have so far...
John Walter Rafferty married Mary unknown in Birmingham...i think.

They had the following children.

Thoe Rafferty b.1822
Sarah Rafferty b.1828
William John Rafferty b.1832 m. Emily Bale.
George Rafferty b.1833 m Catherine unknown 1838
Mary Ann Rafferty b.1836
James Rafferty b. 1840 m Lydia Truman d. 1886.

(I could be out on the years but only just)

I am particularly interested in James's family too (my direct line) and would like to know about the following names too. Yet again the years may be incorrect.

Ezekil James Rafferty b.10 dec 1860 m. maud deebank and kate honner
Walter Rafferty (do not need to know about him already have him)
James Rafferty b.1865
Elizabeth Rafferty b.1870
Laura Rafferty b.1871
William Albert Rafferty b.1874 m. Mary Adshead
Lydia Rafferty b.1878

Hope someone can help. Thank you :)
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:52 BST (UK)
not sure what you are looking for? do you have your family through the cencuses?
if not here is your family in the 1851 cencus
living at 3,house1,court coventry street birmingham
mary rafferty 54yrs widow house maker born ireland
william 19yrs unmarried son brass caster born birmingham
george 10yrs son janne's man born birmingham
mary 14yrs unmarried daughter pearl button worker born birmingham
james 11yrs son printers roll boy born birmingham
SOURCE INFO-H0107-2053
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regards
alli
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: tailz03 on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:55 BST (UK)
Im looking for birth dates, marriages, children or/and death certificates :) I think i already had that but thank you anyway. :)
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:59 BST (UK)
transcribed as raffattee in 1841-
living at park lane,st martin birmingham
mary raffattee 45yrs born ireland
thomas 19yrs born ireland
sarah 13yrs born warwickshire
william 11yrs born warwickshire
george 8yrs born warwickshshire
mary ann 5yrs born warwickshire
james 2yrs born warwickshire
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1142
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regards
alli
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:59 BST (UK)
the 1841 states thomas was born in ireland therefore the marriage was proberley in ireland not england.
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:12 BST (UK)
there is a marriage for a laura rafferty on free bmd in sept qtr of 1888 looking at the 1891 cencus she married henry musgrove
living at 15 elm grove,miles street,bordesley,birmingham
thomas moore 62yrs married
eliza 65yrs wife
harry musgrove 23yrs married lodger carter born birmingham
laura musgrove 22yrs wife born birmingham
sarah musgrove 2yrs daughter born birmingham
john musgrove 5months son born birmingham
SOURCE INFO-RG12-2405
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regards
alli
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:17 BST (UK)
they are in kingsnorton by 1901 with more children
6 vicarage road,sycamore place,kings norton
henry musgrove 33yrs married labourer nightwatchman born birmingham
laura 32yrs wife born birmingham
john 10yrs son born birmingham
sarah 12yrs daughter born birmingham
laura 9yrs daughter born birmingham
beattie 7yrs daughter born birmingham
william 4yrs son born birmingham
henry 2yrs son born birmingham
SOURCE INFO-RG13-2805
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regards
alli
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:23 BST (UK)
wow another 3 kids by 1911 -
lydia born 1904
james 1905
joe 1907
still in kings norton
regards
alli

there is a death for a laura musgrove aged 61yrs registered march 1933 birmingham district may or maynot be her.
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:33 BST (UK)
a possible marriage for lydia born c 1878
lydia rafferty and william henry miles coventry district june 1897
with this in mind here the couple is in 1901-
living at 35,2,court house,gosford street coventry
william miles 22yrs married bicycle brazier born coventry
lydia 23yrs wife born birmingham
william albert 3yrs son born coventry
elsie florence 2yrs daughter born coventry
SOURCE INFO-RG13-2906
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regards
alli
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: tailz03 on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:40 BST (UK)
wow thanks guys, i only went to eat food, i came back and had all this :) Loving it! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 17:58 BST (UK)
cant see lydia and william and daughter elsie florence in 1911 but i do see this one-
william miles 12yrs inmate at the workhouse scattered home,whitley boys homefor children under the control of guardians in whitley nr coventry he was born coventry.
regards
alli
p.s and iam a girl  ;D
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: tailz03 on Wednesday 02 June 10 18:04 BST (UK)
haha i didnt mean as in guys or girls, i call everyone guys like 'heya guys' :) but hey! im a girl too :) thank you for that bit of info will add it on. im doing this part of my dads tree first because my nans is going to be nearly impossible (they were carnival travellers) and she doesn't remember anyones names! hah oh well, its all fun and games.
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 18:47 BST (UK)
lol need any help with nans just yell  ;)
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 02 June 10 19:40 BST (UK)
this looks like a possible for thomas born c1822 ireland
living at 1,8,court high street deritend aston birmingham in 1861
thomas rafferty 38yrs bricklayers labourer born ireland
mary 38yrs wife washer woman born newcastle under lyme staffs
jane 1yr daughter born aston warwickshire
SOURCE INFO-RG9-2170
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cant see them later
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: liz taylor 2808 on Thursday 29 November 12 00:56 GMT (UK)
james and lydia Rafferty are my great great great grandparents
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: tailz03 on Thursday 29 November 12 15:15 GMT (UK)
oh really!? :) send me a private message and we can compare trees :)
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: liz taylor 2808 on Thursday 29 November 12 15:25 GMT (UK)
I dont really know how to send a private message on here my tree is on Genes Reunited

found it !!!
Title: Re: John Rafferty and family
Post by: Jerryxx on Thursday 06 February 20 16:14 GMT (UK)
I found this very interesting. From various sources I now have three different lots of parents for James Rafferty and two different places of birth and two different birth years.

Either he was born in Ireland in 1839 with Parents of James and Elizabeth Rafferty. They arrived in England in 1840 and stopped in Aston and registered their last place of residence in Ireland as County Tyrone. Interestingly they had a son born in 1841 in Aston of the same name suggesting that James born in Ireland may have died young.

Or he was born in England in 1841 in Aston with parents of the same name.

Or he was born in England in 1841 to Michael and Mary Rafferty (nee Burke)

Or he was born in England in 1841 to John Walter and Mary Rafferty

Or he was born in Ireland in 1839 to John Walter and Mary Rafferty (this seems unlikely as they had been in England some years by then).

Does anyone have any information that could verify any of these