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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: alison1970 on Tuesday 01 June 10 23:37 BST (UK)
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Hello i am looking at a friends family history, and have become stuck with one person,
George isaac Allen born 1860.
I can find him on the 1901 census, but nothing previous to that, please could someone help me locate his where abouts from birth til 1901,
This is the details i have for him in 1901.
Name: George Allen
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Reading
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members:
Name Age
George Allen 41
Mary Allen 32
George W Lacey 14
Albere E Allen 6
Eliza E Allen 4
Sarah J Allen 1 month
Any info would be great thank you.
Alison x
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Hi Alison,
You have his second name down as Isaac, where did that info come from as I have been unable to find a birth nor marriage for that name.
According to the next census he was born in Drayton Berks and he has been married to Mary for 17 years
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Hey TU, you just beat me to this one..... ;D
I too have been searching for a birth for a George Isaac ALLEN that fits with the place and year that you have given us Alison, and been drawing a blank.
Perhaps if you could let us know how you made it back to this man, then maybe we can try and help sort it out for you... ;)
Cheers
Karenee
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Hi thanks for your help. The name came from my friend,
george isaac Allen was his grand father. I can find a death for him recorded as Name: George I Allen
Death: Reading, Berkshire, England
Death: Apr-May-Jun 1937.
He married Mary Ann Lacey in 1894 but i can find no record of this either.
This is a mystery, where was he previous to 1901???
Found him on the 1911 census too.
Again any help much appreciated.
Thanks
Alison.
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Hi Alison
I am still not finding anything satisfactory here. Can I please ask how your friend got back to this man....?? Perhaps if we start with his children and go back from there we might get somewhere??
Cheers
Karenlee
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Found the marriage
Marriages Sep 1894
Allen Isaac Reading 2c 707
JOHNSON William George Reading 2c 707
Lacy Mary Ann Reading 2c 707
Lamb Louise Reading 2c 707
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Once again TU..... I was about to post just that same thing..... ;D ;D ;D Great stuff.
Karenlee
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doesn't really help though not for 1891 the only one I can find that sort of fits is already married with two children :'(
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Hi Alison,
In the Drayton PRs (ex OFHS) is this entry;
Baptism;
14-3-1860 Isaac s/o Isaac & Jane Allen, Labr
I can find no other entries for Allen in Drayton.
Alan
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There is this one using the birthplace info from 1911...
1861 Census England Berkshire Drayton
RG9/735/41/25
ALLEN
Isaac Head Marr 29 Ag Lab Oxfordshire
Jane Wife Marr 30 Berks Marcham
William Son Unmarr 6 Berks Drayton
Thomas Son Unmarr 2 Berks Drayton
Isaac Son Unmarr 1 Berks Drayton
Karenlee
this looks like that one Allen...thanks for the bapt info to corroborate
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Now you beat me to it Karen ;D
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Just in case we are on the right track...
1871 Census England Berkshire Marcham
RG10/1263/61/6
Packhorse Lane
ALLEN
Isaac Head Marr 39 Ag Lab Bershire Marcham
Jane Wife Marr 40 Berkshire Marcham
William Son Unmarr 16 Ag Lab Berkshire Marcham
Thomas Son Unmarr 12 Scholar Berkshire Marcham
Isaac Son Unmarr 10 Scholar Berkshire Marcham
Eliza Dau Unmarr 7 Scholar Berkshire Marcham
Sarah E Dau Unmarr 1 Berkshire Marcham
Marcham/Drayton are in Abingdon area so that fits too
Karenlee
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Hmmm this is interesting if we are with the right person
1881 Census England Hampshire Carisbrooke
RG11/1177/118/7
Military Barracks Called Parkhurst Barracks
ALLEN Issac Soldier Unmarr 22 Soldier Berkshire Marcham
Cheers
Karenlee
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Hi all,
I can't help with the Marcham PRs as the bapt. only go up to 1801, marrs to 1754 and burials to 1804.
Also they're not on the IGI.
Alan
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Hmmm this is interesting if we are with the right person
1881 Census England Hampshire Carisbrooke
RG11/1177/118/7
Military Barracks Called Parkhurst Barracks
ALLEN Issac Soldier Unmarr 22 Soldier Berkshire Marcham
Cheers
Karenlee
Going back to earlier pages that seems to be the 66th (Berkshire) regiment. Can't see any military records for him on FindMyPast.
Milly
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There's a George Allen working as a Butler in 1891- born Cookham, Berkshire
age 30 single (quite old to still be single so he could have done that after the army?)
RG12/1592/108/27
Chippenham/Corsham
Address:
Hartham House, Pickwick, Corsham County:
Chippenham, Wiltshire
George W Lacey was born in Cookham.
Milly ;D
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Wow thanks for all your help. The george W Lacey mentioned in the last post was George Isaac Allens adopted son, he was born out of wedlock to Georges wife Mary Lacy. I did find the census's you all mention, but If these are the correct ones george would of been listed using his middle name?
George Isaac Allen is the father of Sarah jane Allen born 1901 died 1975.
Sarah Jane is the mother of the friend i helping. So he is pretty certian on names, he does have George and Marys marriage certificate. To confirm. This man is a complete mystery to me. I have contacted my friend again and asked for more info like did he know georges fathers name?
Once again thanks this is a great site, if any of you come up with anything else much appreciated.
have a good day
Alison x
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George's father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate would certainly help narrow down which george Allen he is from the earlier census as there are a few possibilities. Also his occupation on marrige certificate, confirmation of age and the addresses they both gave.
Milly ;D
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Hi all,
Just noticed some references to Isaac Allen b.1860 in this thread. I don't think it helps with your hunt for George Allen but I think Isaac Allen most likely died in Egypt as per the the reference in the Jacksons Oxford Journal here. http://www.mr.pentops.btinternet.co.uk/Tree/JS1828.htm
Hope this helps