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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Annie65115 on Tuesday 01 June 10 09:24 BST (UK)
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Are there many gravestones left at St Leo's in Basford? I know of the Basford general cemetery but the graves in which I'm interested predate its opening. I don't want a drive down the motorway to St Leo's if there's no likelihood of hitting gold!
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See
http://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/basford-st-leodegarius/hchyard.php
and there's a whole lot of other information there about St Leodegarius.
garibaldired
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Thankyou, very interesting!
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Hi Annie,
I have pictures of St. Leodegarius grounds in Basford that I took a few years ago which include general photos of the graveyard. If you'd like pictures, let me know. I'll send them to you. I tried looking for graves from the early pre 1638. No gravestones that early (what few there were) are readable. Janporter.edu@comcast.net . Put St. Leo's in the subject line, so I don't delete your message.
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Hi jan; thanks for that but it's not possible to exchange PMs until someone has a minimum of 3 posts.
Seperately, I managed to get to St Leo's a week or two back and bought a book about the church; it contains transcripts of all the tombstones that were legible so if anyone wants me to check out any specific names, let me know.
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Thanks, Annie!
I'm looking for anyone whose surname is any variant spelling of Whelden.
Also a woman named Jane who might have been buried in 1637 or 1638.
Thanks for your help! I live in the U.S., but I went to Nottingham to do research on my grandfather 12 generations ago named Gabriel Whelden. I had an article on him and his children (all baptised at St. Leo's) for the New England Historical and Genealogical Register that came out in October of 2009, so it was a very productive trip.
If you are looking for pre 1665 baptisms, etc., go to the Central Library in Nottingham. The first microfiche of St. Leo's has never been published. The probable reason for that is that most of those church records were not in very readable condition; however, we did our best and got quite a bit of information.
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Seperately, I managed to get to St Leo's a week or two back and bought a book about the church; it contains transcripts of all the tombstones that were legible so if anyone wants me to check out any specific names, let me know.
Hi Annie
Are there any Mosedales?
Lynne
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Sorry folks - no Wheldons, no Mosedales.
This doesn't mean that they weren't buried there, just that there's no surviving legible tombstone.
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Hi Annie,
Were there any gravestones from the 1600s or before that were legible?
I take it that you also did not find a person with the first name of Jane having been born in 1637 or 1638.
Thanks for your help.
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The oldest surviving stone was laid in 1669, for one John Clarke. There don't seem to be any others from the 17th century and none that match the description of a Jane.
Looking at the Notts FH CD, there was a marraige in Basford in 1678 between Jane Cutlar and John Cothory - any use?
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Thanks, Annie. Good to know. I never reviewed all of the gravestones at St. Leo's. The ones that I did look at were dated much later than I needed; I figured anything earlier was worn down if there were even a gravestone. Besides, I knew that Gabriel Whelden was buried outside of Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A in 1654. I went to that gravesite but knew ahead of time that there was no gravestone for him....and no evidence of where exactly he was buried.
Between the time that Gabriel sold his property in Old Basford until his name is mentioned soon after, his wife, Jane was not heard from again.
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Thanks for looking!
Lynne
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Bonjour Lynn
This is my very first venture into the world of forums
Living in France it is not easy to research in the UK. Would you be so kind and look in your book of the gravestones in St Leodagarius Church. The name is Dorothy Mason 1908-1929 nee Harrison
Célia
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Bonjour Charentais et bienvenue!
Burials in St Leo's graveyard stopped quite some time before the date you give. I'm afraid that I can't see any headstone with the name you give in the Basford general cemetery either.
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Hi, thought this might be of interest to you,my husband as been researching our row cottages and our neighbour let us look at their deeds .In 1952 Charles Holyland of Nottingham,a darkroom technician ,paid £380 for her cottage .
Marie
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Thanks Lynne and Jan for your interest
Celia
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The reference to St. Leodegar interested me, as I was only aware of the dedication to him at Wyberton, Boston, Lincs, which I was told was unique in Britain . You live and learn, 4 though double what I had anticipated is still a very low number of dedications,many thanks for the information.
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Hi Annie, do you still have access to St Leodegarious buriels? Im looking for Ann Stainforth nee Burton, i last have her on the 1851 census so sometime after that. There is a death on freebmd for dec q 1861. Mamy thanks in advance
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Hi
Is it the Ann Stainforth who was born c 1785 and living at Hucknall Torkard in 1851?
If so she is still around in the 1861 census aged 72
Carol
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Hi Carol, yes, that is her. Thank you for finding that, who was she living with in 1861? The census would have been earlier in the year I assume
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Here she is
1861
Far Lees, Hucknall Torkard
STAINFORTH, Ann Widow 72 Farmer born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
STAINFORTH, Nichole Son Married M 30 Stone Mason born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
STAINFORTH, Susan Dau In Law F 29 Glove Seamer born Leicester
STAINFORTH, John Grandson 8 Scholar born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
STAINFORTH, George Grandson 6 Scholar born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
STAINFORTH, Lucy Granddaughter 4 born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
STAINFORTH, Elizabeth Granddaughter 1 born Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire
Carol
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Thank you for that info Carol
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I've looked on the Notts FHS burial CD, but Hucknall Torkard isn't covered on there yet for that period.
Carol
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Hi Carol, yes, that is her. Thank you for finding that, who was she living with in 1861? The census would have been earlier in the year I assume
Hi Stainforth
1861 census was taken Sunday 7 April
by the way did you ever find anything about the person who, on another site, seemed to be copying and pasting look ups we had done for you on RootsChat and taking praise for finding the information?
I was quite worried by it
You didn't answer the last post on Simoncelli topic ??
Suz
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I have Hucknall Torkard on my NFHS cd but no Ann Stainforth burial. There is one for an Annie but she was only 26 years old. 28-5-1886.
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Thank you for checking for me Annie
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Hi Stainforth -did you read my post giving the date of the 1861 census?
and a Simoncelli query?
Suz
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Yes suz, I did. Thank you for the census info. I have just seen your message on my other post too. Why were you worried? It is me on the other site, relaying information to someone else who was helping me. I didnt realise it was against the rules to share information?? My apologies again if it is
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Of course its not against the rules to share information - I didn't think it was you and I was just worried that someone was following me (and you) around - I have had this kind of thing happen before - not on this site - and my account was compromised.
I was even more worried when you didn't reply
No worries
Suz
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Hi; perhaps I should clarify that my St Leo listing is NOT the pr, or a general list of burials etc; it is a booklet about the church which details the surviving headstones in the churchyard. Obviously there will have been very many burials who have no memorial stone.
No Stainforth or Burton stones, I'm afraid (except one from the 18th century - Elizabeth and Frances Burton, d 1781 and 1799 - I can give further details if that's relevant).
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Hello
I know this post is old, but I wonder if anyone had transcript the names on the gravestones used in the plinth in the south side of the nave, outside ? Is there any Ingalls or Ingols ? around 1500 - 1600 ? Thanks !
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The booklet I've got on the gravestones doesn't include these stones, and the earliest burial on the Notts FH CD is 1654. Sorry!
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Thanks !
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Hi Annie, I'm interested in anyone with the name Diggle that were buried at St. Leodagarius. My husbands family are Diggle
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There are 42 burials for Diggle at Basford, St Leo's. Dating from 1768 to 1881. There are 77 baptisms with fathers name Diggle 1753-1895 and three Diggle single women- well two as Phoebe had two!! Would you like to narrow down the Christian names you are looking for.
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The names I'm interested in are:
William Johnson Diggle and his wife Sarah. He died 1841 but we're not sure of her death date. As newspaper say she died 1817 within 2 weeks of her son Daniel being hung. Daniel 1817. Another Daniel Diggle 1780 and his wife Phoebe 1785. Anything you have on them. Thank you
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The only one of these 4 burials that is represented on the FHS discis Phoebe:
9 Jan 1785 Phoebe Diggle Daughter of Johnson (who I think was aka William Johnson Diggle)
But I would think it likely that if this Phoebe was someone's wife, she would have been described in the reigster as that rather than as someone's daughter.
How sure are you of any of those dates? It's been suggested previously that Sarah may have been buried in 1827 and not 10 years earlier, as there's no burial to match the earlier date. I can't see anything in the papers about her death, though I acknowledge that it may be there, I just haven't found it!
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(Sarah Diggle who was buried in Basford on 24 June 1827 was apparently 65 years old. This would make her a similar age to William Johnson Diggle, who was 80 when he was buried in 1841).
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I have that Johnson Diggle did have a daughter and she was about 2 when she passed In 1785. The other dates I've not verified as of yet. William Johnson Diggle has a burial as being St. Leodargarius 14 sep 1841. Daniel Diggle the elder has his Surname as Digley in records. At the moment I only have dates that are showing on ancestry. Is there any way I can get a copy of the book that states the baptism, marriages and burials for St. Leodargarius as my husband's family are from Old Basford and I think maybe helpful for me.
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Baptisms to Sarah and William Johnson, or Johnson, Diggle:
1785 11 08 Samuel father Johnson, no mother named.
1789 08 02 William William Johnson mother Sarah
1791 11 13 Ann William Johnson Sarah
1794 05 15 Nathan Willm Johnson Sarah
1797 03 24 Daniel Wm Johnson Sarah
1799 09 22 Samuel Wm Johnson Sarah
1804 02 19 George Johnson Sarah
Burials:
1785 01 09 Phoebe DIGGLE Basford Dau of Johnson
1785 11 18 Samuel DIGGLE Basford Son of Johnson
This may have been Phoebe's baptism:
1784 08 08 Phebe father William DIGLEY mother Sarah HUCKNALL TORKARD St Mary Magdalene
Likely marriage:
1783 08 18 Johnson DIGGLE and Sarah RHODES NOTTINGHAM St Mary
There's only one Digley burial in Basford on my disc; Ann Digley, 1811.
There's the burial of Daniel Diggle, householder, on 19 May 1768; the only other one I can see for Phoebe Diggle was in 1834 (no age given)
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Thank you for this Annie. I've not been able to find names for Daniel Digley s parents. I have him born in 1725 in Basford married to Phoebe Barton in either 1745 or 1750 and him dying in 1780 and Phoebe passing in 1785 but theres no burial info I've found. We intend going to the Churchyard once the weather picks up
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Marriage:
1745 12 01 Daniel DIGGLEY Phoebe BARTON RADFORD St Peter
I wonder if this is Phoebe's baptism:
1728 04 12 Phoebe Esau BARTON Phoebe NOTTINGHAM St Mary
I can't see a baptism for Dan* Dig*
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Thank you, you've been so helpful
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I'm looking for all the Diggle names please that are buried, baptised or married at St. Leodagarius Churchyard, my husbands family is Diggle and I'm tracing his family tree. I know there is quite a few buried there but there is no headstones now apart from one, Ann Diggle, who is definitely related to him. Any help would be appreciated.
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There's already a lot of such info on this thread. Rather than invent the wheel, what are you looking for that hasn't already been covered?
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My husbands 3 x great grandparents both died in Loughborough, James diggle died 1878 and his wife Maria died 1881, but both are supposedly buried in St. Leodagarius Churchyard, I've been to the Churchyard and have only found an headstone for Ann Diggle passing in the 1790s, she is related. So at present I'm trying to trace other Diggle names to see how many are actually related to my husband. I have seen some of the replys you put to me previous which are much appreciated and they are also related. I've senn from one of your previous reply that there are about 46 Diggle names buried there. My husbands family all come from Basford. James was born there so I presume he wanted to buried back home. Was there a family burial plot. Any help you can give me Annie would be much appreciated. Many thanks Sue.
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Some M.I.s for St. Leodegarius were printed by Notts. F.H.S. in Vol. 64, described in the N.I.P.R. as "Relief Cemetery". (Source: National Index of Parish Registers, Vol. VI: North and East Midlands, Part 2: Nottinghamshire, compiled by W.T. Stott, series editor Cliff Webb, Society of Genealogists, 1988, page 29)
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Ok thank you watson
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Hello .... :)
Notts family History have Monumental Inscriptions for Basford but there is only the one you have already mentioned - Ann Diggle in 1779 - Basford St Leodegarius .
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169256910/ann-diggle
There are 35 Diggle burials listed in Basford, St Leodegarius registers - 1813 to 1881 on Ancestry
they include:
James Diggle, abode Loughborough - 3rd April 1878, 71 yrs
Maria Diggle, abode Loughborough - 10th January 1881 , 73 yrs
Have you seen the Basford Cemetery Memorials which might have some of your Diggle's
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tf0/
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42 Diggles on the St Leodagarius burial register between 1768 - 1881.
As well as James and Maria, there were 2 others whose abode was Loughborough; George, who died in 1857 age 19 and William, 33 when he died in 1865.
These registers don't give plot numbers.
How sure are you of James's age at death? It suggest a birth year of 1807; unfortunately there were 3 James Diggle baptisms - 1804 in Arnold, 1806 in Nottingham, and 1809 in Arnold again. None in Basford, although the 1806 baptism has a note that he was from Basford. Mother Sarah, father "J", a bleacher. Is this one yours?
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Yes Annie this is the right one. I found the burial records for both last night. It was the proof I was looking for as there were no burial records for Loughborough for either of them. It stated they were both from Loughborough and buried a few days later in Basford. The other 2 names are 2 of their children. It's a shame there is no headstones for them but at least I've got the proof I've been looking for. Thanks again for your help and anyone that has replied x
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Yes Annie this is the right one. I found the burial records for both last night. It was the proof I was looking for as there were no burial records for Loughborough for either of them. It stated they were both from Loughborough and buried a few days later in Basford. The other 2 names are 2 of their children. It's a shame there is no headstones for them but at least I've got the proof I've been looking for. Thanks again for your help and anyone that has replied x
I assumed that George and William were their children, going on these baptisms:
1833 02 24 William James DIGLEY Maria Bleacher BASFORD St Leodegarius
1836 02 14 George James DIGGLE Maria Bleacher BASFORD St Leodegarius
But then, to muddy the waters, I saw this burial:
1836 08 23 George DIGGLE 7m Basford Basford BASFORD St Leodegarius
I wonder if James and Maria called their next son George as well? There's this baptism a year later, with no parents' first names given:
1837 09 22 George DIGGLE Bleacher BASFORD St Leodegarius