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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sandiego04 on Monday 31 May 10 01:41 BST (UK)
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Hello, If there is a headstone for William Sarjeant died 5 Mar 1847, I would like a transcription or photo. Highgate Cemetery fo St. James, Swains Lane, St. Pancras, Camden, Middlesex. Thank you very much. Carolyn
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Hi
Highgate is one of the largest cemeteries in London - about 37 acres so for any look up you really need to state where precisely the burial is in the cemetery.
See the Friends of Highgate website for further details (the link is also included in the help guide at the top of the London and Middlesex boards on burials in London)
http://www.highgate-cemetery.org/index.php/grave-searches
There are charges and as they say these charges might include
'any clearance work necessary to make the grave accessible'
see photographs at the bottom of the page of Wikipedia's information on Highgate so you can see why clearnace might be necessary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highgate_Cemetery
The cemetery would be able to tell you whether the burial was in a private grave or in a common grave (many of our ancestors could afford to pay for the funeral and the service but not an actual grave plot) and whether a gravestone was erected.
Regards
Valda
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Hi Carolyn
Unfortunately, I can't help you with your specific question, but I was wondering if you could help me.
I'm descended from Thomas SARJEANT who was transported to Australia in 1827. It was indicated on his 1878 Death Certificate that he was from London, and his parents were William SARJEANT, a postman, and Elizabeth CHAMBERS (I appreciate information on Death Certificates depend on the informant, which in this case was his widow).
Anyway, I've esitmated William's birth as 1775, so a death of 1845 is quite prossible. I know its only a long shot, but wondering if your William could be my William (same spelling of surname), or even a relation? I've come to a brick wall on my SARJEANT's in England, apart from what is on the Australian Death Certificate of my Thomas SARJEANT.
Les
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Hi
Deaths Mar 1847 Sarjeant William St Pancras 1 294
Probably this Prerogative Court of Canterbury will
Will of William Sarjeant, formerly Paymaster of Her Present Majesty's thirty fourth Regiment but now on half pay of that Corps of Camden Town , Middlesex 25 March 1847 PROB 11/2053
Very difficult to read the Highgate cemetery register (Bishops Transcript not the register itself. so a copy of Anglican burials) but his burial appears to have been on 5th March 1847 with an address somewhere in Camden Town. His age is indexed at 91 - difficult to read.
1841 census HO107 684/6 folio 35
High Street Pancras
William Sarjeant 84 Army H P born Middlesex
Sarah Sarjeant 54 born Middlesex
Your William Serjeant (spelt this way from his signature)
9th November 1788 St Mary, Newington (Southwark Surrey - south of the river Thames)
William Serjeant
Elizabeth Chambers
Bachelor and spinster of the parish married by banns
Both signed
Witnesses Richard Vining? and William Hamm?
Regards
Valda
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Your William Serjeant (spelt this way from his signature)
9th November 1788 St Mary, Newington (Southwark Surrey - south of the river Thames)
William Serjeant
Elizabeth Chambers
Bachelor and spinster of the parish married by banns
Both signed
Witnesses Richard Vining? and William Hamm?
Valda - thanks very much for that information - fantastic. I don't want to take over this topic with my William SERJEANT/SARJEANT, so I will send you a PM. Though in saying that, the age for the death of Carolyn's William still fits in with mine. And he being a paymaster and mine being a postmaster - maybe, or wishful thinking?
Les
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Thank you Valda. The will and burial is correct for my William Sarjeant, age 91. William Sarjeant was a Paymaster for the 34th Regiment of Foot. He married Sarah Gibblin(g) 1780, Daughters: Anna Maria Sarjeant (my line) and Sarah Gibblin(g). He married and had children in Essex and had connections to London. I don't know if he married Elizabeth Chambers. I would have to research that and get back to Les. I don't have record of a son Thomas but I will look into that too.
Cheers! Carolyn
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Hi there
Just wondering about your Sarjeant posts. I am tracing my own Sarjeant family tree which I believe connects through Henry Sargeant - son of William and Sarah Sarjeant. Henry came to NZ (Wanganui) to farm with his brother Issac. It has to be the same connection - if anyone can help can you please drop me a line.
Cheers
Bridgitte
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Bridgitte
Henry and Isaac SARJEANT were sons of William SARJEANT and Sarah WILLIAMS, who were from Gloucestershire, although by early 1830s they were in Machen, Monmouth, in Wales, where William died in 1839. Isaac came here first, and Henry later via Australia. One of their sisters was in Melbourne, and a nephew also came to NZ in the 1880s.
If you do a search on this site, you should find some of my posts about Henry and Isaac.
Ian C
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Hi Ian - thank you for your reply.
From this information I found below are you able to tell me if this is the same Henry Sarjeant - my grandfather was Archibald Stuart Sarjeant. A long time ago my parents were invited to attend a reunion at the Sarjeant Gallery in Wanganui but were unable to make it - I am now trying to work out the connection.
Gregor McGregor and family
Gregor McGregor (1818 - 19 May 1876) of Smithfield, Wanganui married Catherine Fraser (4 January 1914) (daughter of Duncan and Marjorie Fraser) on 6 November 1841. According to his obituary, he had eight sons and six daughters at the time of his death. As best as I can ascertain at this point, they were as follows:
1. Helen McGregor (1842 - 10 March 1876) married Isaac Sargeant (variously spelled Sargeant or Sarjeant) (1838 - 1907) of Fernie lea in 1865. Isaac was a widower with two daughters:
A. Louisa Sargeant married John James Tylee (son of John James and Mary Rickett Tylee nee Bowman) (1854 - 1937) in 1881
B. Rosa Marion "Marion" Sargeant (1859 - 1957) married Arthur James Stewart Seaton (1853 - 1918) in 1880
Isaac and Helen had six children, including:
1.1 Isaac William Henry Sargeant (1867)
1.2 Annie Victoria Sargeant (1870)
1.3 Edgar Munro Sarjeant (1872 - 1942) married Jessie McLeod (1875 - 1957) in 1896. The family lived at Denlair, Fordell.
1.3.1 Eric Keith Sarjeant (1897 - 1963). Eric served in WWI, enlisting in July 1917.
1.3.2 Evan Sarjeant (1898 - 1922)
1.3.3 Henry Lyall Sargeant (1899 - 1966) married Myrtle Richardson in 1925.
1.3.3.1 Henry Lyall Jennings Sarjeant (1927 - 1950)
1.3.4 Edgar Sarjeant (11 December 1903 - 1985) married Gertrude Smith in 1926.
1.3.5 Isaac Sarjeant (28 March 1906 - 1982)
1.3.6 Archibald Stuart Sargeant (2 September 1908 - 1974)
1.3.7 Roderick Leslie Sargeant (1910 - 27 June 1942). Killed during WWII
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Bridgitte
Yes, Henry SARJEANT of the Sarjeant Gallery in Wanganui is Isaac's brother.
It would appear you and I are distantly related back through the Fraser family, on which I have quite a bit of info, including your SARJEANT line.
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Ian C
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Wow - thank you Ian. All the info is rather overwhelming and I am trying to sort out the best way to piece it all together. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Bridgitte